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female 2023 Video of the Year - Nominations Thread


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I had a thought about the nominations, which I'd like to share. I believe that for all nominations, we should be able to have confirmation that video was published to the internet with the consent of the creator. This would mean that the following nominations may not qualify:

I know that narrowing the pool of nominations might not be a popular suggestion, but I feel this is the right thing to do. Respect for consent and privacy is a core tenet of our community, and that should be reflected in our Video of the Year award.

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13 hours ago, downwest6 said:

I had a thought about the nominations, which I'd like to share. I believe that for all nominations, we should be able to have confirmation that video was published to the internet with the consent of the creator. This would mean that the following nominations may not qualify:

I know that narrowing the pool of nominations might not be a popular suggestion, but I feel this is the right thing to do. Respect for consent and privacy is a core tenet of our community, and that should be reflected in our Video of the Year award.

I don't have a strong opinion on this, but it seems lame to disqualify submissions because they "could" be posted without consent, rather than having proof.

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14 hours ago, downwest6 said:

I had a thought about the nominations, which I'd like to share. I believe that for all nominations, we should be able to have confirmation that video was published to the internet with the consent of the creator. This would mean that the following nominations may not qualify:

I know that narrowing the pool of nominations might not be a popular suggestion, but I feel this is the right thing to do. Respect for consent and privacy is a core tenet of our community, and that should be reflected in our Video of the Year award.

I fully agree with the idea, that only videos produced and published with the full consent of the person in them should be considered.  However, upon reviewing the videos that you suggest may not qualify, it seems clear to me that each of those videos was produced targeting a generic audience.  None of the videos are speaking to an individual. To me, they were clearly produced with the intent of publishing them online.

 

3 hours ago, koho said:

I agree in principle.  PH seems like a gray area.  Content is posted by the creators for free.  Should that be allowed?  (That's where my nomination came from.)

If we follow your rules the majority of what's posted here would probably be DQ'd.  For example, most of what's on VK.  

Not all content on PH is published by the creators.  It is supposed to work that way, but it doesn't always.  Many pirates will rip off content from elsewhere, certifying to PH that they are the original content creator and taking advantage of PH's revenue-sharing and partner programs to make money off of content they had nothing to do with.  In the past, PH has resisted removing such content, even when that content includes underage people or is being shared to victimize someone- https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-51391981

 

1 hour ago, satur8 said:

I don't have a strong opinion on this, but it seems lame to disqualify submissions because they "could" be posted without consent, rather than having proof.

Consent should be affirmative, not assumed.  You should always start from the position that consent does not exist until there is some additional information that informs you otherwise.

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24 minutes ago, DesperationPlz said:

All of the sites (including ThisVid) remove videos if the content owner requests it. So does this one in conjunction with the DNP list. The intent is good but this has already been addressed at length years ago.

This is not true for VK, which is a source for a lot of what is here.  It's the wild west.  In a few cases I have asked posters in some cases to remove blatantly stolen content and have been laughed at or even threatened.

I think this site does a good job of walking the line between removing obviously off-limits content by way of the DNP list, and a requirement of an "affirmative" OK proposed by some here.  That is simply impractical, or even impossible, in many cases.  Not sure if there's improvement to be had by way of policy. I would note, though, that members do occasionally flag content that should be off-limits and catch some that should be on the DNP - and the moderator will often add them.  I hare to promote a culture of pecksniffery, but maybe we can be all agree to be judicious with it.

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On 12/27/2023 at 8:23 AM, DesperationPlz said:

All of the sites (including ThisVid) remove videos if the content owner requests it. So does this one in conjunction with the DNP list. The intent is good but this has already been addressed at length years ago.

This is not exactly true... The removal process on ThisVid, PornHub, and others requires a complete DMCA takedown notice.  This includes complete legal identifying information of the person requesting the takedown.  This identifying information must be made available, upon request, by the original uploader.  If someone is being victimized by someone ripping off their content or uploading pictures or videos of them without permission, they may not want to go through a process that gives that person access to their personally identifying information.  Also, even with a DMCA takedown notice, PornHub has resisted removing content that has been uploaded through their partners' program.  ThisVid's private video system can make it difficult for a producer to even tell if someone is sharing their content or not.

 

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