jadin 123 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Alright I have officially formulated a plan. My Classical Conditioning experiment. And I will update my conditions/experiments in an official log on this topic, for a few reasons. 1) to remember what I have tried and in what number 2) to track what works and what doesn't 3) to keep me motivated. Sometimes I start something but get busy and don't keep up with it. This will require some repetition for sure and I'm hoping if I post about it I will feel obligated to keep up with it. 4) for your enjoyment! If you find this interesting either as an experiment for yourself and you have found yourself in the same boat feel free to follow along, ask questions and try things for yourself! Or if you simply get enjoyment in reading about these things please also join in and comment! 5) for your support! Nothing like having cheerleaders and I also value input. If you have suggestions or want to participate in some way feel free to post on this topic or DM me! Having said that let's get started! So what is my experiment? You can read my previous topic to see my likes/dislikes and goals but to review, I have always wanted to have a genuine bed wetting that I completed in my sleep without waking up. Read my previous post for my details on why. (TLDR on that is when I was a little girl I would actually experience orgasm-level bursts of pleasure when wetting the bed in my sleep so I'm sure that started the fetish. I am hoping to recapture that feeling. I also developed a fetish for submissive/mind break/hypnosis wettings which EMG captures pretty well in his bed wetting curse file which spurred these desires on). In the end I have tried various suggestions on here and nothing has ever worked. I have been frustrated but finally feel I may be on to some that could work for even my bladder of steel. Classical conditioning. I want to teach my subconscious a natural trigger that says it's ok to release and find a way to ingrain the trigger through association so hard that i can play the trigger while asleep and trick my subconscious into finally giving me what I want. People warn about starting wetting and not being able to stop. I don't feel this will happen but either way a (potential) safeguard against that is I plan to use a trigger that my subconscious already associates with urination rather than a random trigger that could happen by accident: peeing and bathroom sounds. So what I have done is take my favorite wetting hypnosis file as mentioned previously, downloaded sounds of releasing urine into a toilet and used an audio editor to take my fave pieces of the file interspersed with normal urination sound effects. I plan to listen to this during the day while awake and train myself to wet with the timing of the sound effects while repeating the mantras the file instills in your mind to wet yourself. I will put it on a loop and/or do this several times a day for at least 2-3 days a week. I will attempt to have as many wettings as possible timed with the audio to "train" my subconscious this is an acceptable trigger and natural sensation. I will be laying in bed while doing this, either focusing on the file or on a form of entertainment but still listening and wetting on cue. Then, I will set the file as an alarm on my phone at a time I do not usually wake up in the hopes that the deeper I sleep the more receptive my subconscious will be to the hypnosis/triggers and if it DOES work that I will remain asleep for the entire wetting and completely empty into the bed (I have a protective cover for this) I think I read somewhere it takes around 25 repetitions to learn something but I'm not sure how many it takes for it to be trained into your subconscious. If anyone has any info on that I'm all ears. 🙂 Either way I will update when I do my wettings, how often, how many I did, if I set up a "night event" (the hypnosis file on an alarm during sleep) and if that was successful or not. Alright! No time like the present! I plan to do as many sessions with the file this evening as I can manage while awake. might be hard to get many in as I want since my goal is to have complete wettings without holding back when the trigger plays so that my subconscious won't hesitate to release or hold back when I sleep. what do you think? Any suggestions? Link to comment
annababy 8 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Good luck I hope you can wet the bed!! jadin 1 Link to comment
jadin 123 Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) So I decided to update tonight instead of tomorrow as I don't believe one will be required at that point. I listened to the file 4-5 times and was able to having 11 wettings. It would have been more but when I listen to that file my bladder "unlocks" and I can wet until empty. So it takes more time to 'fill back up'. The fact that I can get my subconscious AND my bladder of steel to surrender to the file so completely that I not only easily empty my bladder fully but have troubles not doing so the moment I hear it is a positive sign for my goal, I think. I plan to attempt to subliminally play this in my sleep tonight by setting it as a 2 AM alarm. Since I work tomorrow I was originally going to avoid doing it on work nights. However since someone pointed out to me that this would likely take some time and repetition and I do not think I will wet the bed this quickly I am going to go ahead and play it tonight with no protection. It's gonna take some time to completely break down my subconscious so I'm not worried. I just don't want to pass up the opportunity to "soften" up my barriers to achieving a true bed wetting. I think it will be good practice to play it while I sleep, specifically to have it start playing when I am in deep sleep and my mind isn't paying attention. ( And hopefully let's down it's guard at some point). Anyways that's the first update! I will keep adding to this as I go! Edited March 16, 2023 by jadin (see edit history) Mrdesperation and wee spurt 2 Link to comment
OldWetGuy 1,799 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Good luck! I’m going to be following your progress. jadin 1 Link to comment
jadin 123 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 So it's been a busy couple days so I thought I would update. The last night I played the file I had the volume up too loud and it woke me XD Baby steps I suppose. However I'm trying multiple holds throughout today and then another night of listening to the hypnosis file before bed and setting it as an alarm on a lower volume so hopefully only my subconscious picks up on it. We will see how it goes. I just had one wetting. Usually I just keep freely wetting after that but this time I'm going to make myself get desperate as many times as I can. One down. Let's see how many more I can go! I didn't explain but the reason for the multiple holds is to temporarily weaken my bladder by tiring it out. This might actually work and I have not fully tried it before but have noticed by bladder is "tired" and easier to get desperate after the first hold. Link to comment
wee spurt 7 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 this is super interesting, I hope it works for you! jadin 1 Link to comment
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