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On 11/21/2022 at 7:00 PM, Arthur Fenlock said:

Some great pics in that last batch. Could you show what reference prompts you used for an example of one of these please?

For the fantasy one's with dragons I used-

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Swapping Triss with other names like Yennefer, Ivy Valentine and a few of Sophitia.

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I gave it a shot on my own account, trying to get it to generate any kind of desperation and... I don't think it's ready.

I was thinking of posting some side-by-side photos of the same seed and the same prompt but with "need to pee" removed on one side, but I think there's not a single case where it really adds anything.  I guess it just hasn't seen enough examples of pictures of people being really desperate.

That said, you get better results than I can, so maybe I've just not gotten enough practice with it, and I'm definitely looking forward to more results!

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20 hours ago, Ranpalan said:

I gave it a shot on my own account, trying to get it to generate any kind of desperation and... I don't think it's ready.

I was thinking of posting some side-by-side photos of the same seed and the same prompt but with "need to pee" removed on one side, but I think there's not a single case where it really adds anything.  I guess it just hasn't seen enough examples of pictures of people being really desperate.

That said, you get better results than I can, so maybe I've just not gotten enough practice with it, and I'm definitely looking forward to more results!

If the A.I. isn't already trained on something you have to be literal, instead of using a phrase, even if the phrase might be obvious to us. Something like "holding her crotch" might be more literal, but then the A.I. won't associate other pee related actions from the scene around the model, like people's reactions etc. The A.I. actually takes a lot of renders to get any urine properly involved, (or at least coming from her groin and not hands) so a prompt like "peeing her pants" or "wetting her pants" or "peeing self" might work a lot better than a literal prompt. Without additional stain or urine prompts most renders won't actually have any pee in them, but will have the models behavior, like crotch holding, posture, others noticing, etc. If you haven't already, check out the tutorial I posted at the top of this thread.

Getting the A.I. to do anything you actually want, (and not ten things you don't want) is way harder than most people realize until they try it themselves. Even if you start with my example prompts and/or my tutorial and skip the hard part, it might take 25 renders just to get something relevant, let alone alterable/"edit"-able. Looking at some of the other comments here and in other places, people seem to think that this A.I. stuff is quick and easy, it's not. It's slow, hard to figure out, and not exactly cheap/inexpensive. You kind of have to be a scientist to get anything usable right now. Take a look at the other Pixiv/Deviant art Omorashi posts to see what literally 99% of people there have managed to render so far with Novel A.I., it's not even in the same ballpark. That's not a brag, it's just the truth. Listening to those who haven't used any A.I. yet reminds me of older folks when CG first started showing up in movies, "Oh they just do all that on computers..." Which drove me crazy as I have done work in CG and stop-go animation, and the CG was way harder and more time consuming. (not to mention expensive) But the second a computer is involved people think you just hit a button and that's that.

On 10/26/2022 at 4:42 AM, CloudedArcTrpr said:

Chief, imma be 1,000% real with you.

really hope that this ai stuff is a fad.

This reminds me of when "Prince" called the internet a "fad" about 10ish years ago. Great singer, but also dumb as a rock. Calling tech a "fad", let alone vanilla first gen consumer tech a "fad", has literally been wrong every single time anyone's said it about anything since forever. It only gets better/faster/cheaper past the starting point, and as far as starting points go, I've seen worse. (Anyone remember "AOL" "netscape" and dial up internet?)

Deputy, amma be 75% real with you...  Since this wasn't the only whining you've done on these images, I took the liberty of looking at your uploads/"art" to see what a master of craft would make. I guess I didn't know what I was expecting, but all you have are some chicken scratch pencil sketches of furries that look like a toddler drew them, and reposts of "homar's" work (along with some other artist's work) reassembled as one long picture. To quote Deadpool, "Maximum effort!".

Your "about" bio says "a steady stream of art", and you have literally less than 10 original images (in half as many years) that I would be embarrassed to put my screen name on. Those who live in glass houses...

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I don't think it's a fad, but I also don't think it will replace skilled human artists.
What I can see happening is more artists, especially commission artists, will start using AI art as a starting point, and then manually edit them to meet exact customer specifications.

Back in the day when photoshop and other kinds of editing and digital painting programs came about, many physical artists (painters and such) probably feared for their livelyhoods too, but they weren't replaced.
Supplemented, but not replaced.

And isn't more art just a good thing for the world, regardless of who or what created it?

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On 11/28/2022 at 4:08 PM, DuffMan said:

If the A.I. isn't already trained on something you have to be literal, instead of using a phrase, even if the phrase might be obvious to us. Something like "holding her crotch" might be more literal, but then the A.I. won't associate other pee related actions from the scene around the model, like people's reactions etc. The A.I. actually takes a lot of renders to get any urine properly involved, (or at least coming from her groin and not hands) so a prompt like "peeing her pants" or "wetting her pants" or "peeing self" might work a lot better than a literal prompt. Without additional stain or urine prompts most renders won't actually have any pee in them, but will have the models behavior, like crotch holding, posture, others noticing, etc. If you haven't already, check out the tutorial I posted at the top of this thread.

Getting the A.I. to do anything you actually want, (and not ten things you don't want) is way harder than most people realize until they try it themselves. Even if you start with my example prompts and/or my tutorial and skip the hard part, it might take 25 renders just to get something relevant, let alone alterable/"edit"-able. Looking at some of the other comments here and in other places, people seem to think that this A.I. stuff is quick and easy, it's not. It's slow, hard to figure out, and not exactly cheap/inexpensive. You kind of have to be a scientist to get anything usable right now. Take a look at the other Pixiv/Deviant art Omorashi posts to see what literally 99% of people there have managed to render so far with Novel A.I., it's not even in the same ballpark. That's not a brag, it's just the truth. Listening to those who haven't used any A.I. yet reminds me of older folks when CG first started showing up in movies, "Oh they just do all that on computers..." Which drove me crazy as I have done work in CG and stop-go animation, and the CG was way harder and more time consuming. (not to mention expensive) But the second a computer is involved people think you just hit a button and that's that.

I've tried things in that direction as well, though with equally little luck: the postures were just off, often with the limbs placed rather unnaturally.  Prompts that describe the girl as peeing do work, but it's not what I'm looking for: I'm more into artwork of desperation than wetting (though the leak stuff you're doing is very impressive!).  Interesting that your experience is different.  I have read your tutorial and it's been very useful, though it hasn't really led to any results that I think are actually appealing (yet), aside from the AI's general tendency to generate hot women.

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So it's been a minute and I thought I'd try something a bit more classic and stylized, so I went with a vintage sci-fi art style. It's a mixed bag because varying styles is something that I've wanted to try, but as soon as you leave a "realistic" render type it's very hard to get actual wet stains on clothes, and streams start leaning more into fountains. Also all "styles" start to look like manga if you push them too hard, probably a result of most of the database being trained on "danboru" and other Japanese images boards.

Novel A.I. has also had some minor under the hood updates, both in their renderer and image database, but in all honesty it's hard to see much of a difference when using it.  If anything it made renders with the "nsfw" prompts come out like Cronenberg monsters, so there are very few renders here that are "nsfw", although that might've been more a result of how it combined with the vintage prompts, who knows... It was an interesting experiment, but at least in the near-ish future I'll probably stick with the more realistic prompts after this.

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I thought I'd put the stylized stuff aside for now and try something different scene-wise. Although I've rendered/generated plenty of stuff with the "nsfw" prompt, it all fell under the same-ish default situations. I never went for anything more complicated or actually directed, and nothing all that interactive between characters. So for a change I thought I'd ty something more hot and spicy, or to be more generic "porn-y". So this is my first attempt at "lewd" renders. It was surprisingly harder to get right than the regular ones, especially when multiple people are interacting, they can become a Cronenberg mess much of the time.

 

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Inspired by the "Ore no Ie ga Maryoku Spot Datta Ken: Sundeiru dake de Sekai Saikyou" pages posted by Vbucks on the general board-->

 

 

I thought I'd take a shot at some Manga/Anime style battle witches. The manga starts off with some back to back Omo situations, but after the first handful of issues drops most of that (and accompanying raunchy nudity/fan service content) for something much more bland and uneventful. (Honestly not the best manga, also the English translation starts to get really bad later on when a new translation group took over) So I'm compensating with an attempted further continuation of incontinent Omo battle witches with Novel A.I.

Because why not?...

 

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1 minute ago, DuffMan said:

So far Novel A.I. is the only pay one (that I know of so far) that both allows NSFW material and doesn't keep your images or prompts. The only other way is to run it locally on a powerful rig.

Is it monthly, or a one time payment, if it's a one time payment, I think I can do that.

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You can pay one time but it'll only get you a set amount of "anlas" credits, but if you have a monthly (or at least 1 current month) you can do free default rendering, and the credits are only used to "enhance" or make "variations" or other more in depth stuff. While about 11$ is a decent deal for 10,000 credits I wouldn't want to use them without a monthly because they would run out much faster. Also a monthly payment gets you a bonus 10,000 credits each month.

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18 hours ago, Twist496 said:

I'm guessing NovelAI isn't free, right?

All of the good non restricted AI has to be purchased it seems...

Stable Diffusion is free to run locally and how I make my AI images. You need a low end GPU at the most to run it. I was running it on a GTX 1060 6 GB for a while before I upgraded. https://civitai.com/ has lots of user created models for various purposes. The easiest way to run Stable Diffusion locally is https://github.com/invoke-ai/InvokeAIhttps://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui is the most popular as it's the most powerful but it's not as easy to install and update as Invoke AI.

There's also numerous hosted options like https://stablehorde.net/ which is free and lets you use different custom models that they support. Stable Horde runs on volunteer hardware so it is slow. https://www.mage.space/ is a paid site that offers unlimited NSFW image generation and use of custom models that they selected (so no importing your favorite models) for $15/month. 

However, I haven't found any general purpose models that are particularly good at making pee content. I've been using this LORA https://civitai.com/models/9719/goldenside to do wetting. A LORA can be used with other models. As far as I'm aware none of the hosted options have this LORA and you can't import it yourself.

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On 5/13/2023 at 11:58 AM, kruton said:

Stable Diffusion is free to run locally and how I make my AI images. You need a low end GPU at the most to run it. I was running it on a GTX 1060 6 GB for a while before I upgraded. https://civitai.com/ has lots of user created models for various purposes. The easiest way to run Stable Diffusion locally is https://github.com/invoke-ai/InvokeAIhttps://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui is the most popular as it's the most powerful but it's not as easy to install and update as Invoke AI.

There's also numerous hosted options like https://stablehorde.net/ which is free and lets you use different custom models that they support. Stable Horde runs on volunteer hardware so it is slow. https://www.mage.space/ is a paid site that offers unlimited NSFW image generation and use of custom models that they selected (so no importing your favorite models) for $15/month. 

However, I haven't found any general purpose models that are particularly good at making pee content. I've been using this LORA https://civitai.com/models/9719/goldenside to do wetting. A LORA can be used with other models. As far as I'm aware none of the hosted options have this LORA and you can't import it yourself.

Unfortunately most of those options aren't really an option for me at this point. I know it might sound impossible but my machine is not recent or compatible enough for something as basic as a GTX 1060, so running anything locally is a no go unless I bought a new machine just to do that. (Which I would consider doing in a world where I have the disposable cash for it, maybe one day) As for something like stablehorde, it's an interesting consideration, but it's not exactly user friendly and I'm not a programmer. Just looking at the website makes me go crosseyed. Without some sort of full tutorial I wouldn't even know where to start.

The Mage Space might be promising, and it doesn't look like they collect your prompts and images, (the privacy policy gets a little vague) so I might play with that a bit.

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It's been around 3 months since I've tried poking at Novel A.I., and they've done quite a bit of work on their image generator. They've added infill which could be very useful regarding pants wetting etc. They've also upgraded their trained model and data set, and just a cursory testing showed me it's definitely improved somewhat. (nothing groundbreaking, but not nothing) Additionally the speed is greatly increased. Putting these all together means it might be worth going another round with ol' Novel A.I. and see what it can manage these days. I also want to try some other sites who's privacy policy is more in line with Novel's anonymity. It seems if you look away for just a few weeks 5 more A.I. sites pop up so it could be worth looking for something new. SeaArt doesn't have a privacy policy that's in English, and I couldn't get any test renders to look like anything useful, but I might poke around Mage Space a bit. Either way I definitely want to see what the current generation of Novel is capable of now, so before I try it in depth I'll drop the last of what I had with 1st gen Novel A.I. here.

These are the leftovers I had from 1st gen novel A.I. from 3ish months ago. Not enough to post as individual batches, just a mishmash of what was left from a handful of images spanning various ideas that never totaled enough for their own "batches". So I'll just throw them all into a pile and consider it the final batch of Novel A.I. "1st gen" stuff. After this anything new I make will be "2nd gen".

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So I tried Novel A.I. again now that they're in something of a "2nd gen" incarnation, with updated models/database/algorithm/etc.

Improvements over first gen are faster rendering with much fewer disconnects/errors. Larger image set means less repetitive backgrounds/outfits and characters looking quite so anime all the time. Far fewer bad anatomy Cronenberg monstrosities, especially in initial pre-enhanced/varied images. Prompt guidance in general seems tighter as well. Pee streams also see some improvements with less turning red or blue. Pee also turns into objects like swords far less often than it used to. Less explosive solid streams that look overly cartoony. Far less streams coming from hands like magic fountains. In general the liquid generation seems much improved overall. And changing styles to something more specific like "vintage" doesn't make it harder to render omo related content like it did before. They also allow new tools like "InPaint" and stuff, although I haven't used much of that yet.

Non of these improvements individually are a game changer, but put together it's a much better experience, and getting usable content out of it doesn't take half the time it used to. I put relatively little time into trying the 2nd gen out so far, but even then I was able to get far more than I would previously in that amount of time. Rather than make a batch of a few specific characters in a single style as before, I wanted to check out the state of things by trying various styles/situations/characters, so this is more of a mishmash of stuff.

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As much fun as Novel A.I. has been, (and really just learning the basics of A.I. and prompts in general) I think I reached the limit of what I can achieve a while ago. Getting anything good out of it takes a looooooong time, and is pretty limited in terms of quality and style. So I thought I'd dump the last handful of what I had left over from my last attempt or two, and move on to greener A.I. pastures.

Bon voyage Novel A.I...

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