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Why do you think you're into omo? I'm pretty confident about why I'm into it: I'm autistic, but I didn't know that growing up and so I just didn't understand why people did certain things. I espe

@caedar "Also boys peeing outside behind a tree or something was seen as normal but girls didn't do it, and instead of seeing this as boys having an "advantage" I just kinda felt like boys weren'

I know (At least I think I know) my psychological cause for liking this fetish is very simple - it coincided with discovering intimacy and sexuality. My first sexual experiences were with my fema

39 minutes ago, DesperateJill said:

I guess as a woman I experienced the opposite thing where I saw boys being able to pee outside and whenever they wanted pretty much as being an advantage and that made me think the boys were more respected, that their needs were more respected and that society privileged them more, which I still kind of believe really especially in regards to going to the bathroom.

Super interesting stuff. So what aspect of the fetish appeals to you? Do you like holding or watching guys pee or what?

See for me it's female desperation and females peeing outside. My brain interprets it as kinda "being brought down to my (male) level" which syncs up with how I described little kid me saw the world and the gender binary. When I get excited by seeing a woman pee its like the most caveman, lizard part of my brain is going "thats right, fuck you, your peeing isn't hidden from me anymore". When you break it down its such a cynical, shitty power fantasy that I'm surprised omo is pretty much where my kinks end. I don't really get anything out of "dominating" women - in fact the idea of overly explicit consent is super hot to me. Just a sexual situation where everyone is as on the same page and comfortable as possible.

So what does your lizard brain get out of this?

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@caedar

"Super interesting stuff. So what aspect of the fetish appeals to you? Do you like holding or watching guys pee or what?"

Only into female desperation.

"See for me it's female desperation and females peeing outside. My brain interprets it as kinda "being brought down to my (male) level" which syncs up with how I described little kid me saw the world and the gender binary. When I get excited by seeing a woman pee its like the most caveman, lizard part of my brain is going "thats right, fuck you, your peeing isn't hidden from me anymore". When you break it down its such a cynical, shitty power fantasy that I'm surprised omo is pretty much where my kinks end. I don't really get anything out of "dominating" women - in fact the idea of overly explicit consent is super hot to me. Just a sexual situation where everyone is as on the same page and comfortable as possible.

So what does your lizard brain get out of this?"

I read that over several times and I have to say it's interesting to see that from the male perspective. For me having to be desperate and not being able to go in situation when men can almost feels exactly like the way you said it, like the men are looking at you unable to go for forced to go outside or something like that and just having sort of a power moment over you. I have always felt that there was some type of power dynamic when a woman was unable to pee in a man could, like he was somehow dominating the situation and that the woman was in sort of a more precarious state.


But I think that it can also apply to women as well. Like when I got my job where I had to hold outside for six or seven hours at a time lots of women seem to have some vindictive satisfaction in the idea of it's nice to see you have to wait now. I do think that there is something of a little bit of a vindictive or cruel side of the fetish.


A question would be since you seem to like having a power fantasy is being in a situation where you can go to the bathroom but where women must go on holding a situation that you enjoy?

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4 minutes ago, DesperateJill said:

A question would be since you seem to like having a power fantasy is being in a situation where you can go to the bathroom but where women must go on holding a situation that you enjoy?

Okay okay okay this is so fascinating because I understand why you'd assume that. Also where you say.

5 minutes ago, DesperateJill said:

For me having to be desperate and not being able to go in situation when men can almost feels exactly like the way you said it, like the men are looking at you unable to go for forced to go outside or something like that and just having sort of a power moment over you.

BUT... the answer to that first question is decidedly no. Because the key thing is being brought down TO my level not below my level. A situation where I can pee but a woman can't - how do I put this? Basically, I think my lizard brain would almost, like, make me the victim in that situation. Because the woman is being afforded a level of privacy, she gets to wait until she gets home to pee, I get to use the filthy public bathroom, or the tree, or whatever. Again I feel the need to reinstate that this isn't how I like, actually view the world.

My power fantasy is being in a situation where a guy would traditionally be allowed to pee and the girl joins in. The beautiful, complex woman joins the filthy, simple man down in the mud. It's a power fantasy where you get the thing that's powerful from the get-go and simply put it on the same level as you.

Rick and Morty season 1 episode 7. That's how my brain views the world.

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Now that I'm on this train of thought I want to elaborate with how my experience may differ from others.

Like, from my years of experience looking at this shit there's basically two main subsets of the omorashi community: people who like seeing people wet themselves, and people who like holding and/or wetting themselves. And from my experience (though this isn't at all a strict binary) generally you'll see more guys into the former and more girls into the latter.

And the vast majority of "mainstream" omo porn is based around women wetting, right? Because its made for that majority of guys who just like girls peeing themselves. I actually really don't care for wetting myself and I have two explanations for why this is the case:

1. For most other men it's an even more cynical, straightforward power fantasy than what I've outlined in this thread. It's literally just... they like seeing girls embarrass themselves and then also their pre-pubescent minds associated peeing with sexual stuff so badda bing badda boom you're into omo.

2. But I could also see someone going on a super similar path as me buuut they just like.. happened to see more other boys wet themselves when they were kids. Because I actually have no memory of ever witnessing a wetting as a kid, nor did I ever wet my pants post-diaper wearing. In this alternate timeline where everything remains exactly as I outlined it but between the ages of 3-8 I just happened to witness some other boys pee their pants a few times and they got laughed at by the class or something. Then wetting is tied in with it. Then I wanna see girls wet themselves too.

But I don't! I just wanna see them pee.

I think its likely that the vast majority of straight/bisexual men who are into omo are into it because of some variation of my first explanation, but I think the second one has merit.

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"A situation where I can pee but a woman can't - how do I put this? Basically, I think my lizard brain would almost, like, make me the victim in that situation. Because the woman is being afforded a level of privacy, she gets to wait until she gets home to pee, I get to use the filthy public bathroom, or the tree, or whatever. Again I feel the need to reinstate that this isn't how I like, actually view the world."

It's funny because I guess because of my experience where the guys were always able to go to the bathroom and I wasn't able to I view it as sort of the opposite level, I view them as getting to go whereas I am the victim of having to hold it while they are able to relieve themselves. While the guys are out there peeing in the bushes will running into their bathroom without a huge line and I keep holding to me that makes me feel like I am at the disadvantage and I'm thinking I want to be peeing like them instead of being stuck in this situation which is maddening when you know others are going.

"Like, from my years of experience looking at this shit there's basically two main subsets of the omorashi community: people who like seeing people wet themselves, and people who like holding and/or wetting themselves. And from my experience (though this isn't at all a strict binary) generally you'll see more guys into the former and more girls into the latter."

I have noticed this too and I think that is a very simple explananation for it. Guys are into seeing other women holding it or wetting themselves because they have seen others in that situation. Women into this however are into themselves holding or wetting because that has been with their experience has been. It just reflects the experience of the world, guys get to relieve themselves and watch the women suffer full bladders, where as women suffer the full bladders and watch guys getting to go, it is a direct opposite experience which explains the fetish divide. Overwhelming men are pee-ers and women are holders.

"But I could also see someone going on a super similar path as me buuut they just like.. happened to see more other boys wet themselves when they were kids. Because I actually have no memory of ever witnessing a wetting as a kid, nor did I ever wet my pants post-diaper wearing. In this alternate timeline where everything remains exactly as I outlined it but between the ages of 3-8 I just happened to witness some other boys pee their pants a few times and they got laughed at by the class or something. Then wetting is tied in with it. Then I wanna see girls wet themselves too."

True I don't ever recall seeing a person of either sex wet themselves as a child, although I wet myself once in school and it was a very unpleasant experience and I think that that's why I have zero interest in the wetting side of this fetish.

 

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I guess we are all different.  Spectrum, yes sure, probably.  For me power and humiliation are not any sort of turn on.  I just like seeing people of either gender casually wetting their pants and or wearing wet pants, and I find that a sexual turn on.  I also enjoy having wet clothes next to my skin.  Holding or seeing people holding or desperate doesn't do anything.  There is something about rebellion in there too, feeling free to break the taboo.

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CW/TW:  child abuse

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Among other (more major tbh) things, our parents almost never took us to the doctor.  Around the beginning of puberty there was about a year in which I had constant UTIs, and my parents' response was just to give me cranberry juice.

It hurt and I always felt like I had to pee, but peeing hurt worse.  My response was to hold it to try to minimize the times I got the burning feeling from actually peeing.  Considering today I can fall asleep on a nearly bursting bladder, it seems the practicing was effective.

 

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It's not because you like omorashi and it excites you or that you have necessarily had a trauma. You may just like it because basically it has you subconsciously hanging on to something you find sexy.
I hate being told I'm mentally ill just because I like to see people having to pee. It saddens me that we have been reduced to this......

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I have autism as well, but I'm not sure if that's why I like pee. I've just always had a thing for it, when I was little I had several bladder infections one after another. My doctor wasn't sure why they kept happening, sometimes young girls get them frequently, but the doctor had to do tests. One of the tests was pretty unpleasant, the doctor had to use this strange thing that looked kind of like a cotton swab and move it around the area  where pee comes out. The swab was then sent to a lab, I don't know what the results were I think it had to do with the bubble bath or laundry soap my family used.  It was quite painful and it took three people to hold me down, the doctor was very nice and gave me a whole bunch of stickers even though I wasn't good during the exam. I don't think that's why I like pee either, it might have made me more curious, but as I got older I just grew more and more interested in pee. I liked TV show episodes that had a pee related story line, I also liked books that had any pee scenes I also liked hearing other people talk about pee. As I grew older, I thought I would grow out of liking pee, a lot of kids like toilet humor and grow out of it, but I never outgrew my interest in pee. As an adult, I still get some bladder infections and I have severe back spasms and for some reason they make my bladder spasm. I don't know if I like pee because of the medical issues I have or if I just like pee because of some other reason, but that's the best way I can answer your question.

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That's a really good question. I never really thought about it that way. I don't think that there is any specific psychological cause for me.

It kind of just happened during my teen years, stumbled upon omorashi, because I was generally curious about how girls urinate, and how it looks. Plus normal porn did not work for me at that time. 
When I think hard and long about it, I had a female friend when I was very very young. We'd often accompany each other when going to the bathroom, by then it seemed like the most natural thing, we'd just talk and keep each other company. Maybe that sparked the interest? again I'm not so certain that it was the cause.

In the last 5 years or so, I have become aware of something that might be the cause. I think it's because I am obsessed of everything feminine. For instance also female masturbation, like you say. That goes hand in hand with female urination, because that's also unique to girls (of course). The moves people often make when desperate for a pee seems feminine to me. You know, crossing the legs, knees together etc. Just those poses drives me crazy, even tough desperation or pee might not be involved. It might just be a girl sitting on a chair in a skirt crossing her legs because you know.. she's wearing a skirt, it's just something so feminine, in my opinion. So yeah maybe something about gender differences? 

Probably.
Interesting subject though. 

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@potte

"When I think hard and long about it, I had a female friend when I was very very young. We'd often accompany each other when going to the bathroom, by then it seemed like the most natural thing, we'd just talk and keep each other company. Maybe that sparked the interest? again I'm not so certain that it was the cause."

You know sometimes it really is the simple things like this. Maybe it's trying to recapture a childhood experience that was innocent and nice and everything like that and pleasant.

"In the last 5 years or so, I have become aware of something that might be the cause. I think it's because I am obsessed of everything feminine. For instance also female masturbation, like you say. That goes hand in hand with female urination, because that's also unique to girls (of course). The moves people often make when desperate for a pee seems feminine to me. You know, crossing the legs, knees together etc. Just those poses drives me crazy, even tough desperation or pee might not be involved. It might just be a girl sitting on a chair in a skirt crossing her legs because you know.. she's wearing a skirt, it's just something so feminine, in my opinion. So yeah maybe something about gender differences?"

I do think that there is something to that because I think that desperation is a very gendered thing and mostly a feminine or female thing. Again there are some people who are attracted to male desperation but to me desperation has always seemed like more of a feminine thing. And one guy told me he thought that I was more feminine after I had my experience of desperation at my job because somehow being in that situation is just very specifically female and everything like that. So I do agree that several poses like that do just come across as very feminine and maybe that is why more men are attracted to desperate women then there are straight women attracted to desperate men as came up in another thread not that long ago. Also perhaps why more lesbians like myself seem to be into this particular fetish.

@Glocky

"It's not because you like omorashi and it excites you or that you have necessarily had a trauma. You may just like it because basically it has you subconsciously hanging on to something you find sexy.
I hate being told I'm mentally ill just because I like to see people having to pee. It saddens me that we have been reduced to this......"

I don't think it was implied that liking pee or omorashi or anything like that is necessarily result of a mental illness or a trauma, just in some cases things like that definitely influence a developing's person sexuality. I'm not the biggest fan of Sigmund Freud but he did feel that a lot of people develop sexually when they were younger because of experiences including things with potty training, so I don't think that that's all that unlikely.


I definitely do think these experiences we have when younger, not necessarily traumatic, do have some type of mental effect in the development of these fetishes. I can definitely look a lot of childhood experiences I had where I could see how my fetish was sort of a compensation or a coping mechanism in some way. But simply liking pee or desperation doesn't mean that you some kind of mental illness. I definitely do have mental issues but I don't think that the fetish relates directly to that and I don't consider the fetish to be a symptom of mental illness.

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The inner workings of my mind are unknown to me. However, I think one factor for me was simply an early connection between the act of peeing and nakedness. Some wires got crossed between curiousity about the naked body and peeing as a private act that required getting somewhat naked. However, I don't think that was the only reason. Additionally, the way I interact with omo has changed a lot over time, so there really isn't a simple root to it.

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I know (At least I think I know) my psychological cause for liking this fetish is very simple - it coincided with discovering intimacy and sexuality.

My first sexual experiences were with my female best friend. (She's one year older, so this is a peer experience and in no way forced or trauma.) The first time it happened when we were showering off in the mudroom of our house. We were wearing bathing suits and had soap in our eyes. When I passed her the soap, my hand (and the bar of soap) brushed across the front of her bikini bottoms. 

She moaned and pressed my hand to her. Then she asked me to kiss her pussy (through her bathing suit). I knelt down and did it. After a long time she said she had to pee but she didn't want me to stop. I told her I did not mind and she peed through her suit into my mouth.

I've written about what happened on this site. 

We did not have intercourse, but when we had time alone together I loved licking her. At some point, she would very nearly always let me know she needed to pee. 

I felt like (and still do) that it can be a very intimate and sexual connection between people. As we grew older, having her pee while in close contact with me was  ... not expected, but it seemed to happen a lot. I hid under her beach/lounge chair and licked her up through the vinyl straps (the rubbery tube kind). She always hated to get up and go pee in a bathroom when she was comfortable doing something else.

 

Later, I had co-workers who had the same desires. One who I never had contact with physically. The other woman and I delivered printing jobs and because of travel constraints learned/helped each other pee while staying on the highway.

 

Omo related stories, photos, videos, experiences are my #1 turn-on, fetish, fantasy. Maybe I would never have developed an interest if not coupled with my sexuality. 

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3 hours ago, Glocky said:

It's not because you like omorashi and it excites you or that you have necessarily had a trauma. You may just like it because basically it has you subconsciously hanging on to something you find sexy.
I hate being told I'm mentally ill just because I like to see people having to pee. It saddens me that we have been reduced to this......

In case this had anything to do with my comment, I was only speaking for myself personally.  There's absolutely plenty of people with more positive beginnings to the fetish.

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7 hours ago, Weather said:

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Among other (more major tbh) things, our parents almost never took us to the doctor.  Around the beginning of puberty there was about a year in which I had constant UTIs, and my parents' response was just to give me cranberry juice.

It hurt and I always felt like I had to pee, but peeing hurt worse.  My response was to hold it to try to minimize the times I got the burning feeling from actually peeing.  Considering today I can fall asleep on a nearly bursting bladder, it seems the practicing was effective.

 

I'm sorry you went through that and I really appreciate you contributing it to the discussion.

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Pretty sure mine comes from more of a physical than a psychological place, because I know that from a very young age I really like liked the sensation of needing to pee and I would always wait until the last possible second because I just loved how good the release felt when I was really really desperate.

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It was true of poop also but that never developed into anything sexual for me.

To this day I still love holding in my pee mostly because of how my full bladder presses on some very sensitive internal areas 😅 there is a bit of a psychological aspect to it for me too in that elimination is seen as a bit taboo like not even in a sexual context.  I remember myself and others getting in trouble with adults for use of any ‘toilet humor’ so I guess it just stuck in my mind as a naughty thing. Also I recall at least one accident from early childhood and my parents were just so disappointed in me for that, and I guess i just started to see desperation to a naughty thing too. Where my love of bladder bulges comes from im not sure… maybe that’s also psychological, like squirming and wetting and whining can all be faked, but a full bladder bulge can only come from a big full bladder 😍😅

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3 hours ago, Bursting_Baby said:

Pretty sure mine comes from more of a physical than a psychological place, because I know that from a very young age I really like liked the sensation of needing to pee and I would always wait until the last possible second because I just loved how good the release felt when I was really really desperate.

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It was true of poop also but that never developed into anything sexual for me.

To this day I still love holding in my pee mostly because of how my full bladder presses on some very sensitive internal areas 😅 there is a bit of a psychological aspect to it for me too in that elimination is seen as a bit taboo like not even in a sexual context.  I remember myself and others getting in trouble with adults for use of any ‘toilet humor’ so I guess it just stuck in my mind as a naughty thing. Also I recall at least one accident from early childhood and my parents were just so disappointed in me for that, and I guess i just started to see desperation to a naughty thing too. Where my love of bladder bulges comes from im not sure… maybe that’s also psychological, like squirming and wetting and whining can all be faked, but a full bladder bulge can only come from a big full bladder 😍😅

Thanks for replying a) because this is a super interesting addition to the discussion and b) it means I found your profile and your content is insanely hot.

Do you think that your fetish is purely based in the fact that holding pee and letting go physically feels pleasurable or do you think there's a psychological element where your brain got some wires crossed and finds pee more attractive than the average person would, which is like, not at all.

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I was a kid.  Back then, I knew the basic facts of reproduction but nobody had mentioned that the activity is intensely pleasurable or that we have an appetite for it that includes a fascination for other people's bodies, at least those of the sex to which we're attracted.  Not just an attraction to their bodies overall but a particular kind of fascination for their genital configuration.  Like I said, I was a kid, and when you're a kid, you don't associate those particular body parts with sex and reproduction.  You associate them with pee.  It's where you pee from.

 

I thought then that I was a pervert.  Because I didn't know anyone else had these feelings, these fascinations.

 

Once I learned that (nearly) everyone has a sexual appetite and that most people can relate to having sexual feelings that are attached to the sight and thought of those body parts, those shapes, then I figured everyone must have the same erotic spillover feelings about peeing and control issues, losing control or making someone lose control or watching someone lose control, explicitly THERE.  Oddly, a lot of people don't seem to.  Or they've blocked it out.  But it seems kind of normal, inevitable even.  

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7 hours ago, Bursting_Baby said:

Pretty sure mine comes from more of a physical than a psychological place, because I know that from a very young age I really like liked the sensation of needing to pee and I would always wait until the last possible second because I just loved how good the release felt when I was really really desperate.

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It was true of poop also but that never developed into anything sexual for me.

To this day I still love holding in my pee mostly because of how my full bladder presses on some very sensitive internal areas 😅 there is a bit of a psychological aspect to it for me too in that elimination is seen as a bit taboo like not even in a sexual context.  I remember myself and others getting in trouble with adults for use of any ‘toilet humor’ so I guess it just stuck in my mind as a naughty thing. Also I recall at least one accident from early childhood and my parents were just so disappointed in me for that, and I guess i just started to see desperation to a naughty thing too. Where my love of bladder bulges comes from im not sure… maybe that’s also psychological, like squirming and wetting and whining can all be faked, but a full bladder bulge can only come from a big full bladder 😍😅

I absolutely agree with you, squirming, pee dancing and moaning can be a fake, that does not really confirm that a girl is needing to wee really bad, but if you see the contours of her bladder bulging out from her abdomen, from her public bone up to her navel and from hipbone to hipbone, then you can be sure that her bladder is overfilled and you can be sure that the girl is  needing to wee pretty bad.

The more if is bulging and the harder this ball of urine in her belly is, the more she needs to go.

I love bladder bulges and strong girls who are able to hold it that long!!

A bulging bladder is absolutely erotic for me and a girl who is needing to pee so really, really bad, is absolutely sexy!!

Another sign that a girl had her bladder really full and that she was needing to wee really bad, is if she has to squat somewhere, because she absolutely can’t hold it anymore, then she pee a very large amount. If she is squatting in a lake of hot wee and still can’t stop, then you can imagine that she was full and that her urge was strong and maybe painful.

I love that too, but i don’t like fakes.

How fare can your bladder bulging out, how much urge can you endure before you let it out?

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It wasn't until I read a post on here two weeks ago, I started looking at myself in depth.

The post I think is titled waking up wet. It's about 6 pages long and spans about two years of this girl's life.

The first time I read it, I thought she was suffering from Photosensitive Epilepsy. However she goes on to explain it's an autistic spectrum trait called Stimming.

After reading the post I then started to look up other things about autism ADHD and stimming.

Now so far in the general searching I've done on the parenting forums about stimming, they shy away from talking about wetting as a Stim.

They might talk about a child being wet, but not that the child wanted to be wet.

Now I always knew that I was Dyslexic from being around six years old.

By the time I was twenty five I realised I also had Dyspraxic tendencies. 

Now I have shown autistic traits all my life. How it was never picked up, I'll never know.

In the last two weeks I have started to embrace my Stims. I love the feeling of being wet. I like the musky smell of pee, and I like listening to the noise it makes.

I really enjoy wetting on concrete, stone or tarmac, and watching the pee trails run off in different directions. But I always have.

I've spoken before about my earliest memories of my childhood friend and the wetting games we used to play.

I find in times of stress I Stim more, than when relaxed and calm.

Having heart surgery is probably the motivation, not just to come back here but to start posting photos and videos.

I know this post was long I hope it helps others possibly explain what might be going on.

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I honestly don’t know if I already posted in this thread or not

I am not in any way shape or form trying to support or contribute to pedophilia; my answer is just relevant to the question.

When I was in I believe first grade, a girl I was kinda friends with, and stayed kinda friends pretty much my whole life, was in kindergarten. We had school uniforms and she peed through her dress, and I vividly remember a puddle in the seat and her just being really embarrassed.

When I was in kindergarten at that school, I had several accidents. The only one I really remember was I went to the urinal to pee during recess. I spent a good minute trying to unbuckle my belt until I just couldn’t hold it and peed my black uniform pants. Then, I looked down and remembered — it was Casual Friday and I was wearing sweatpants… could’ve been avoided.

I went out to the teacher and told her I had an accident to which she replied something like, “Oh yeah, you did!”

As long as I can remember I had been interested in pee.

I didn’t know it for real until about 6th grade when I was on YouTube and thought, “I wonder if there’s any videos of girls peeing themselves. There can’t possibly be.” Welp, there was. And it’s been the most sexually arousing thing for me ever since. It does more for me than sex, and sex does a lot.

I think looking back on it now that it might’ve stemmed from the embarrassment of admitting I had an accident, because one of my biggest fantasies is to have women (there are specific ones but in general) see me having an accident and care for me.

There was also a time I asked to wear diapers again, long after I had been potty trained, maybe around 6 or 7. I haven’t really had any sort of pee trauma as far as I’m aware. I think I was just genetically predisposed.

Makes me wonder if anyone else related to me likes it too, although I hope I never know the answer to that.

this was long thanks if you read it all lol

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