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First of all- I really enjoy reading your posts. Your writing is beautiful and compelling and I always enjoy reading the stories you have to tell.

Secondly, this resonates with my experiences as a bisexual woman. I was raised very religious so I had a large disconnect between my sense of self and my burgeoning sexual and romantic feelings as an adolescent, and it took me a long time to figure some things out.

In high school there was a girl I was always arguing with and I couldn't figure out why I felt so passionately about her. I was obsessed, to the point of dreaming about her frequently. Whenever she was around my face would get red and hot and I wanted to talk to her so badly but I didn't know why, so I would pick fights with her instead. One day I dreamed that she kissed me, and everything clicked. Making that realization that I am bi also made a lot of my very intense childhood/adolescent friendships with other girls make a lot more sense in retrospect.

I also feel that this particular kink was integral to my early sexual being. I had been so conditioned by my religious upbringing that I couldn't even identify early feelings of sexual arousal. As a very young teenager I felt a pressure that felt good, that felt like I needed to pee, so I thought that's what it was. I think somewhere deep in my subconscious, my primal self knew that I was seeking the build of sexual pleasure and then the release of orgasm, but I had repressed that part of me very deeply. But I did know that I wanted the thing I was feeling to build and then release. I connected these dots the only way I knew how- letting the feeling "build" by holding my pee until I couldn't stand it anymore, and then "releasing" (always in the toilet. Wetting did not occur to me until much later.)

I'm sure you are not particularly interested in female anatomy, but even as an adult woman the two feelings (the need to pee and sexual pleasure) are inextricably linked, just because of the way my anatomy is arranged. Penetration (especially fingering) from certain angles presses against my urethra (I think) and as the feeling of sexual pleasure builds so does the feeling of needing to pee.

Although, this is not something I ever expect to share with a partner. I fantasize about it from time to time, in the same way that I fantasize about a lot of things that I wouldn't enjoy as much in practice. Though it was integral to my early sexual being, it is much less important now that I have a better understanding of myself and my sexuality.

I think that having a piss kink (on some level) is more common than a lot of people realize or are willing to admit. Urine isn't sterile (as so many people believe), but neither are sexual fluids, and it's not likely to make you sick to get some of it in your mouth or another orifice (the way that feces will). Honestly, it seems pretty natural and pretty sexual to share bodily fluids with a lover. You're already swapping spit and swallowing each other's ejaculate, what's one more fluid added to the mix?

However, I don't think it's going to be accepted in the mainstream the way BDSM has become accepted in the mainstream. In some ways our society has been primed for BDSM (at least the way that it's portrayed in media like 50 shades) which mostly involves a man dominating a woman. This is a traditional heterosexual relationship dynamic, just a bit more extreme. The idea of a man restraining a woman to use her body for sex has been around for thousands of years.

On the other hand, we have been so conditioned to think of pee as something gross and bad that has no place in the bedroom. Even if someone feels on a primal level that it might be hot, there is still so much conditioning that it is bad and wrong. That conditioning starts when i child is 2ish years old. It's hard to undo. In recent years it seems like it's been joked about more openly, but the root of the joke is usually that the person with the piss kink is weird/perverted. I definitely think it's way more tame than a LOT of BDSM practices. But society at large is going to be more willing to accept "man dominates woman" than "peeing your pants can be sexually arousing."

Anyway, this was a great write up as always. Thank you for sharing your experiences.

 

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6 hours ago, skirtandtights said:

First of all- I really enjoy reading your posts. Your writing is beautiful and compelling and I always enjoy reading the stories you have to tell.

Secondly, this resonates with my experiences as a bisexual woman. I was raised very religious so I had a large disconnect between my sense of self and my burgeoning sexual and romantic feelings as an adolescent, and it took me a long time to figure some things out.

In high school there was a girl I was always arguing with and I couldn't figure out why I felt so passionately about her. I was obsessed, to the point of dreaming about her frequently. Whenever she was around my face would get red and hot and I wanted to talk to her so badly but I didn't know why, so I would pick fights with her instead. One day I dreamed that she kissed me, and everything clicked. Making that realization that I am bi also made a lot of my very intense childhood/adolescent friendships with other girls make a lot more sense in retrospect.

I also feel that this particular kink was integral to my early sexual being. I had been so conditioned by my religious upbringing that I couldn't even identify early feelings of sexual arousal. As a very young teenager I felt a pressure that felt good, that felt like I needed to pee, so I thought that's what it was. I think somewhere deep in my subconscious, my primal self knew that I was seeking the build of sexual pleasure and then the release of orgasm, but I had repressed that part of me very deeply. But I did know that I wanted the thing I was feeling to build and then release. I connected these dots the only way I knew how- letting the feeling "build" by holding my pee until I couldn't stand it anymore, and then "releasing" (always in the toilet. Wetting did not occur to me until much later.)

I'm sure you are not particularly interested in female anatomy, but even as an adult woman the two feelings (the need to pee and sexual pleasure) are inextricably linked, just because of the way my anatomy is arranged. Penetration (especially fingering) from certain angles presses against my urethra (I think) and as the feeling of sexual pleasure builds so does the feeling of needing to pee.

Although, this is not something I ever expect to share with a partner. I fantasize about it from time to time, in the same way that I fantasize about a lot of things that I wouldn't enjoy as much in practice. Though it was integral to my early sexual being, it is much less important now that I have a better understanding of myself and my sexuality.

I think that having a piss kink (on some level) is more common than a lot of people realize or are willing to admit. Urine isn't sterile (as so many people believe), but neither are sexual fluids, and it's not likely to make you sick to get some of it in your mouth or another orifice (the way that feces will). Honestly, it seems pretty natural and pretty sexual to share bodily fluids with a lover. You're already swapping spit and swallowing each other's ejaculate, what's one more fluid added to the mix?

However, I don't think it's going to be accepted in the mainstream the way BDSM has become accepted in the mainstream. In some ways our society has been primed for BDSM (at least the way that it's portrayed in media like 50 shades) which mostly involves a man dominating a woman. This is a traditional heterosexual relationship dynamic, just a bit more extreme. The idea of a man restraining a woman to use her body for sex has been around for thousands of years.

On the other hand, we have been so conditioned to think of pee as something gross and bad that has no place in the bedroom. Even if someone feels on a primal level that it might be hot, there is still so much conditioning that it is bad and wrong. That conditioning starts when i child is 2ish years old. It's hard to undo. In recent years it seems like it's been joked about more openly, but the root of the joke is usually that the person with the piss kink is weird/perverted. I definitely think it's way more tame than a LOT of BDSM practices. But society at large is going to be more willing to accept "man dominates woman" than "peeing your pants can be sexually arousing."

Anyway, this was a great write up as always. Thank you for sharing your experiences.

 

Thank you! Yes, I agree BDSM fits our society in a way that peeing yourself does not. I don't think we'll ever see omorashi get as popular as BDSM got in the recent years, however I do feel like we are slowly growing thanks to the exposure that the internet grants us. Sometimes it takes the right incentive at the right time to get non-wetters to give it a try. I'm thinking of last year's TikTok Pee your Pants challenge. Something as simple as that was enough to convince many young people to wet their pants in front of a camera for the whole world to see.

And to experience what omorashi feels like it's not even necessary to broadcast your actions on the internet... 🙂

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Thanks for sharing. I´ve been thinking about writing this reply for several days now. It´s always great to hear other peoples stories of identity and self acceptance, and yours is very well written. And here comes mine. 🙂

 I have also had a strong fascination for wetting since I was a small kid. While growing up I encouraged my friends to wet their pants a few times, but for some reason never dared to do it myself, and I didn´t have accidents. I was just always very observant whenever I saw or heard anything relating to it, and it made me excited in a way I didn´t understand.

 I had a pretty easy time fitting in to the heterosexual norms since I (as a girl) fell in love with boys, but I wasn´t interested in sex as a teen. Didn´t even masturbate.  But when I started having sex in my early 20:s I learned to like it. Sometimes I wonder if my sex-drive would have sparked earlier if I had been experimenting more with omo.

Even if I liked sex I soon noticed I was most aroused while fantasizing about wetting scenarios. The problem was, I couldn´t really enjoy my fetish because I was too ashamed. Mostly I just denied it even to myself, but it didn´t go away of course. First time wetting myself was exactly like it was for you- very hard to let go, and then finally when it happened so intense – but afterwards, I was overwhelmed by the shame. “This is sick, I can´t be doing this.” Of course I did my google and youtube searches sometimes but even that was combined with too much shame so I didn´t engage in it very often.

I didn´t see myself as a fetishist then. I think it was a little bit like you describe it with not being able to place yourself among your stereotypes of how a gay person should be like.  A fetishist was someone creepy and crazy, someone to either make fun of or be scared of. That was how they were depicted in media. Who would want to be that person? When I later found out there were others who were into wetting it wasn´t a relief either, because the only omorashi fetishists I saw were men who liked watching porn where women humiliate themselves, and discussed “female desperation” from an angle I wasn´t comfortable with. I couldn´t see myself in one of those men, and I wouldn´t want to be one of those objectified women either.

 So I kept my fantasies to myself. I used the fantasies to reach climax even when I was with a partner but always with a sense of guilt. I can´t deny that I had some great sex sometimes, bet usually after the first hot sparks with a new love it became kind of lame, and I started to prefer just masturbating on my own. And, I thought this was just fine. I didn´t think it could be in another way.

 The process that made this eventually change for me was slow, but it eventually happened. I started to accept my kink a little more.  I realised a lot of people have kinks, and it´s not the end of the world. It started to frustrate me that I felt so inhibited and insecure around sex. If someone asked me what I liked in bed I was just anxious about it.  As if I didn´t know what turned me on.  

 Less than two years ago I came to a point when I felt like I had a choice, and it had to be made. I could choose to embrace this part of me. That´s when I created an account on here, and that´s when the shame got flushed down the drain faster than the pee rushed into my pants. It was amazing. I could finally enjoy my fetish for real, experience it´s full potential and pleasure.
I also felt like I didn´t have to hide, and even if nobody around knew about all of this it made me so much more confident in myself, even in other aspects of my life.  
That I had the luck to so soon after I was ready to open up about my fetish to a partner, find someone who came to fully accept and love this part of who I was, has also helped me a lot of course.  That we don´t share the same kinks from the beginning seem to make everything richer for us both.  

 I´m not bitter that I didn´t start embracing this very significant part of my sexuality before. I´m just so happy that I do now, and I wish for everyone to experience the same, without shame and guilt.

 I often hear (also among kinksters) that fetishists shouldn´t come out. That there´s no need to. That it´s just rude to compare being a fetishist to being gay or trans. Nobody wants to know about it so we should just keep hiding.
I agree that it´s not the same as being gay or trans, but I still think we should be allowed and encouraged to come out in the way we´re comfortable with, and the way we feel like we need to, depending on how important the fetish is in our lives and in our sexual orientation. I don´t mean writing on facebook that you like peeing your pants. You don´t have to go into details. I I have for example told some of my friends that I´ve been through an overwhelming process lately, starting to identify myself as a fetishist. I´m answering their questions, telling them what it means to me, without at all telling them what kind of fetish I actually have. That´s one way of doing it.  

 I don´t think the key is to make pee fetishes more mainstream, more accepted. In the best of worlds, all kinds of fetishists should work together to raise people´s awareness and acceptance for fetishes in general, and to support others to get rid of the shame. But it´s hard for us fetishists to unite, because we tend to be stuck in our own little subgroups saying “at least we´re not as extreme/nasty/weird as those who get off on (…). “  

 I don´t know yet how far my own coming out process will go, but if I can do anything to make life easier for other fetishists,  it´s so worth it.  

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Tellnoone said:

Thanks for sharing. I´ve been thinking about writing this reply for several days now. It´s always great to hear other peoples stories of identity and self acceptance, and yours is very well written. And here comes mine. 🙂

 I have also had a strong fascination for wetting since I was a small kid. While growing up I encouraged my friends to wet their pants a few times, but for some reason never dared to do it myself, and I didn´t have accidents. I was just always very observant whenever I saw or heard anything relating to it, and it made me excited in a way I didn´t understand.

 I had a pretty easy time fitting in to the heterosexual norms since I (as a girl) fell in love with boys, but I wasn´t interested in sex as a teen. Didn´t even masturbate.  But when I started having sex in my early 20:s I learned to like it. Sometimes I wonder if my sex-drive would have sparked earlier if I had been experimenting more with omo.

Even if I liked sex I soon noticed I was most aroused while fantasizing about wetting scenarios. The problem was, I couldn´t really enjoy my fetish because I was too ashamed. Mostly I just denied it even to myself, but it didn´t go away of course. First time wetting myself was exactly like it was for you- very hard to let go, and then finally when it happened so intense – but afterwards, I was overwhelmed by the shame. “This is sick, I can´t be doing this.” Of course I did my google and youtube searches sometimes but even that was combined with too much shame so I didn´t engage in it very often.

I didn´t see myself as a fetishist then. I think it was a little bit like you describe it with not being able to place yourself among your stereotypes of how a gay person should be like.  A fetishist was someone creepy and crazy, someone to either make fun of or be scared of. That was how they were depicted in media. Who would want to be that person? When I later found out there were others who were into wetting it wasn´t a relief either, because the only omorashi fetishists I saw were men who liked watching porn where women humiliate themselves, and discussed “female desperation” from an angle I wasn´t comfortable with. I couldn´t see myself in one of those men, and I wouldn´t want to be one of those objectified women either.

 So I kept my fantasies to myself. I used the fantasies to reach climax even when I was with a partner but always with a sense of guilt. I can´t deny that I had some great sex sometimes, bet usually after the first hot sparks with a new love it became kind of lame, and I started to prefer just masturbating on my own. And, I thought this was just fine. I didn´t think it could be in another way.

 The process that made this eventually change for me was slow, but it eventually happened. I started to accept my kink a little more.  I realised a lot of people have kinks, and it´s not the end of the world. It started to frustrate me that I felt so inhibited and insecure around sex. If someone asked me what I liked in bed I was just anxious about it.  As if I didn´t know what turned me on.  

 Less than two years ago I came to a point when I felt like I had a choice, and it had to be made. I could choose to embrace this part of me. That´s when I created an account on here, and that´s when the shame got flushed down the drain faster than the pee rushed into my pants. It was amazing. I could finally enjoy my fetish for real, experience it´s full potential and pleasure.
I also felt like I didn´t have to hide, and even if nobody around knew about all of this it made me so much more confident in myself, even in other aspects of my life.  
That I had the luck to so soon after I was ready to open up about my fetish to a partner, find someone who came to fully accept and love this part of who I was, has also helped me a lot of course.  That we don´t share the same kinks from the beginning seem to make everything richer for us both.  

 I´m not bitter that I didn´t start embracing this very significant part of my sexuality before. I´m just so happy that I do now, and I wish for everyone to experience the same, without shame and guilt.

 I often hear (also among kinksters) that fetishists shouldn´t come out. That there´s no need to. That it´s just rude to compare being a fetishist to being gay or trans. Nobody wants to know about it so we should just keep hiding.
I agree that it´s not the same as being gay or trans, but I still think we should be allowed and encouraged to come out in the way we´re comfortable with, and the way we feel like we need to, depending on how important the fetish is in our lives and in our sexual orientation. I don´t mean writing on facebook that you like peeing your pants. You don´t have to go into details. I I have for example told some of my friends that I´ve been through an overwhelming process lately, starting to identify myself as a fetishist. I´m answering their questions, telling them what it means to me, without at all telling them what kind of fetish I actually have. That´s one way of doing it.  

 I don´t think the key is to make pee fetishes more mainstream, more accepted. In the best of worlds, all kinds of fetishists should work together to raise people´s awareness and acceptance for fetishes in general, and to support others to get rid of the shame. But it´s hard for us fetishists to unite, because we tend to be stuck in our own little subgroups saying “at least we´re not as extreme/nasty/weird as those who get off on (…). “  

 I don´t know yet how far my own coming out process will go, but if I can do anything to make life easier for other fetishists,  it´s so worth it.  

 

 

Thank you for sharing you thoughts! I absolutely agree having a fetish is nothing to be ashamed of. If anything, just because we didn't choose to have it. Just like we don't choose being gay or straight. 

I do think though that if our fetish became a little more popular, more people would indulge in it without shame. I myself, when I was growing up, I would've had an easier time coming to terms with something that was more mainstream than Omorashi. 

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Wow - thanks for taking the time to write all this. My upbringing was religious, but not as extreme as yours. I do remember fantasising about wetting from an early age, and back then I don't think girls featured much at all in my mind - even though I grew  up to be completely straight (plus OMO).

I found some old clothes that I would wet in without any way to wash them out! The result was that they soon smelled strongly of pee - and I have loved that smell ever since! Sometimes I fantasise about what it would have been like to meet a girl who wet herself enough to smell of pee. I'd be the only guy to want her, and.........

I think I realised pretty soon, that there were things that weren't bad, but that it was best to keep quiet about!

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