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I kind of figured she went back and cleaned up after herself and that most of the people in the videos were in on it. I would think watching a grown woman piss herself in public would cause some sort of reaction or at least a stare or 2 if it was truly unexpected. But everyone else pretended they didn't notice in every video of hers that I saw. I fully agree about the morality of not involving unwilling participants in your fetishes. That is wrong. I sometimes see some that are just downright dangerous like, a woman flashing traffic of a very busy road. That's a good way to cause a wreck and for someone to die. There's also a good chance that minors are in some of those cars and it's exposing them to a fetish.

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On 3/8/2022 at 6:06 PM, Stonkven said:

This has been very interesting to follow but it makes me wonder. Where exactly is the line regarding what is legal/morally ok to post (here or elsewhere)? I get the specific content creators but what about real accidents? I’ve posted several videos of public accidents but they were uploaded to tiktok first. For example, one is of a woman recording a stranger wetting herself at a picnic table. There are other people in this video although you don’t see much of them. I’m pretty positive that she did not ask this woman for consent to post a video of her accident. It was posted to tiktok though so obviously it wasn’t meant to be a sexual thing but it is now here because I and others think something like that is hot. What is the legality for something like this? 
 

Another example is of a woman wetting herself from laughter in a chair at a restaurant with her friends and other people visible. It’s clearly an accident but now the chair needs to be cleaned and her friend has posted the video on Tiktok. Does the fact that it was posted on tiktok make it ok or that it was obviously an accident? Everyone thinks it’s funny but people with our fetish don’t necessarily see it as funny. (I mean, it is funny but it’s also more than funny for omo lovers) 

 

This is just something I’ve thought about as I’ve read through this. While intentional content is quite clear regarding what is ok and what is not, it seems things start to blur when it’s a real accident but other aspects are the same. @TVGuy obviously has a good grasp on the laws so maybe you can make it clear to me?

Unfortunately, the law itself isn't clear here.  It seems to me there are a couple of things to consider from a legal standpoint- The first being the legality of the video itself, the second is how you are using the video.

As far as the legality of the video itself, it has long been the law and precedent in the United States that filming or photographing someone is protected by the first ammendment's freedom of the press.  Generally speaking, as long as that person isn't inside their own home, a bathroom, a changing room, or somewhere else that has a "reasonable expectation of privacy" you are free to record an image of them.

However, just because you can legally capture that image of a person, it doesn't mean you can use it for whatever purpose you want.  People still own the rights to any kind of creative endeavors they may engage in, such as the rights to a performance that they are putting on or the rights to publicity.  You couldn't use this image in an advertisement implying that they endorse a certain product, for example.  Or, if they are intentionally putting on some kind of show or performance, you would have to get a copyright clearance from them to use their creative works.

Now, in the US, there are new laws that are specifically designed to prevent revenge porn and give women control over how their images are used on adult websites.  If the purpose in sharing an image or recording of a person is sexual in nature, meaning that the intent behind the sharing of the image is to arouse or sexually excite someone else, then you are suppose to do two things- First, they need to have a signed release specifically giving permission for their image to be used as part of a sexual display and, secondly, you would have to keep and maintain the proof of age documentation required under USC 18.2257.

The other potential legal issue is that you are taking videos you did not produce, and have no legal rights to, and are redistributing them.  It is one thing to embed or link to a video that you did not produce on a platform like TikTok, as long as TikTok allows for that.  However, as soon as you download or make a copy of that video, and upload that elsewhere, you are now taking content that you have no legal rights to at all and redistributing it.  That has always been a violation of copyright law.

So, to summarize- Recording the videos is probably legal. Sharing the videos is a gray area with a lot of nuance. Making a copy of the video and uploading that elsewhere, definitely a violation of copyright law.

However, this is from a purely legal point of view.  Just because something is legal doesn't mean it isn't morally objectionable. And, of course, community websites, like omorashi.org, can make and enforce their own rules that go beyond what the law dictates.

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2 hours ago, TVGuy said:

Unfortunately, the law itself isn't clear here.  It seems to me there are a couple of things to consider from a legal standpoint- The first being the legality of the video itself, the second is how you are using the video.

As far as the legality of the video itself, it has long been the law and precedent in the United States that filming or photographing someone is protected by the first ammendment's freedom of the press.  Generally speaking, as long as that person isn't inside their own home, a bathroom, a changing room, or somewhere else that has a "reasonable expectation of privacy" you are free to record an image of them.

However, just because you can legally capture that image of a person, it doesn't mean you can use it for whatever purpose you want.  People still own the rights to any kind of creative endeavors they may engage in, such as the rights to a performance that they are putting on or the rights to publicity.  You couldn't use this image in an advertisement implying that they endorse a certain product, for example.  Or, if they are intentionally putting on some kind of show or performance, you would have to get a copyright clearance from them to use their creative works.

Now, in the US, there are new laws that are specifically designed to prevent revenge porn and give women control over how their images are used on adult websites.  If the purpose in sharing an image or recording of a person is sexual in nature, meaning that the intent behind the sharing of the image is to arouse or sexually excite someone else, then you are suppose to do two things- First, they need to have a signed release specifically giving permission for their image to be used as part of a sexual display and, secondly, you would have to keep and maintain the proof of age documentation required under USC 18.2257.

The other potential legal issue is that you are taking videos you did not produce, and have no legal rights to, and are redistributing them.  It is one thing to embed or link to a video that you did not produce on a platform like TikTok, as long as TikTok allows for that.  However, as soon as you download or make a copy of that video, and upload that elsewhere, you are now taking content that you have no legal rights to at all and redistributing it.  That has always been a violation of copyright law.

So, to summarize- Recording the videos is probably legal. Sharing the videos is a gray area with a lot of nuance. Making a copy of the video and uploading that elsewhere, definitely a violation of copyright law.

However, this is from a purely legal point of view.  Just because something is legal doesn't mean it isn't morally objectionable. And, of course, community websites, like omorashi.org, can make and enforce their own rules that go beyond what the law dictates.

Would you not say a lot of this is inherent on your world out look. Ie someone who does not believe in centralized governments is of course going to take objection to enforced at times arbitrary moral standards? I mean I personally am on the far progressive left of the political spectrum in the American sense but due to life experiences I do have a deep mistrust of authorities of where I perceive standards seem to have arbitrary bias or different standards of enforcement behind them; which I think is what some people are trying to say. But basically I’m just trying to say everyone comes from a different point zero in existence, and when not clearly against the law or a heinous moral objection; we should take the time to understand others and understand we all have inherent natural biases; but that almost everything in life imo exists in a shade of grey and that there are very few black white absolutes in existence. Ie we should be more empathic.  I think if we did that more we’d all be surprised to see what we have in common.

Your views have been enormously educational for me and very helpful in considering all the different not my autistic brain perspectives regarding omorashi and gave a newly informed ideas on how I perceive consent, and while my views may still differ slightly from yours, I thank you for your perspective and appreciate it 🙂 

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8 minutes ago, DarthBane93 said:

Would you not say a lot of this is inherent on your world out look.  

No. This has absolutely nothing to do with politics. At all. Whatsoever.

9 minutes ago, DarthBane93 said:

Ie someone who does not believe in centralized governments is of course going to take objection to enforced at times arbitrary moral standards?

Being a decent person has nothing to do with your political affiliation, and vice versa your political affiliation does not justify you being a bad person. This makes no sense.

11 minutes ago, DarthBane93 said:

I mean I personally am on the far progressive left of the political spectrum in the American sense but due to life experiences I do have a deep mistrust of authorities of where I perceive standards seem to have arbitrary bias or different standards of enforcement behind them; which I think is what some people are trying to say.

Literally don't intentionally destroy other peoples property or intentionally force others to engage in your fetish without their consent.

This should not be hard to understand. If you're reaching so far as to use political affiliations to justify vandalism and non consensual content, then I must honestly say you have a problem.

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16 minutes ago, Kyuu said:

No. This has absolutely nothing to do with politics. At all. Whatsoever.

Being a decent person has nothing to do with your political affiliation, and vice versa your political affiliation does not justify you being a bad person. This makes no sense.

Literally don't intentionally destroy other peoples property or intentionally force others to engage in your fetish without their consent.

This should not be hard to understand. If you're reaching so far as to use political affiliations to justify vandalism and non consensual content, then I must honestly say you have a problem.

This isnt what I said at all. And i was clear and deliberate with my language, i understand you have a problem with me though. So be it, cant all agree. Im secure in who I am as a person (; 

I said world outlook not political outlook, i relativized it in a government sense. But world outlook is how you believe people should be treated, it defines your thoughts, habbits, actions. Yet again for the record I do not believe in destruction of property, vandalism, or non consensual consent. Clearly you think I espouse these things or defend them, i do not.

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Good for you.

I believe we've more than discussed this topic in detail and I'm not going to continue beating it into the ground with people like you who only keep posting in this thread grasping at straws to try and justify what is clearly amoral behavior.

I'm not going to be as patient or as nice on this subject as TVGuy, as I've already exceeded my patience in dealing with this after over 10 years of it.

If you post content that engages in or supports vandalism or non-consensual content you will be banned from this community, period.

If you have a problem with that, find another forum.

Thanks. See ya.

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