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Why are girls holding it on purpose?


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Why are girls over and over hold their pee on purpose? 
Time and again i met girls who were needing to wee but did not go.

I am beginning  with my schooldays.  There were three girls in my class, they were friends and they  had the the habit not to go to the school toilet.

They said that the toilets were to dirty. I did not know how the girls toilets were, but i know as well that the boys toilets were clean and proper.

If they were needing to go, the girls talked openly about it.

Not rarely at lunch said one of them that she would need to pee really bad, but she did not go, sometimes not for hours longer.

It was like a self made law for the girls not to use the school toilet and they they did not allowed each other to go.

Sometimes, my friends and me went with the girls after school to a shopping mall, or to a coffee shop.

It happens again and again that on of the girls crossed her legs and told us how bad she would need to pee, or how full her bladder already is after holding it all day long.

They said something like “I need to wee since hours, i nearly do it in my panties”. or “ i have to go home now  before i wet my panties, or my bladder is about to burst.”

They had a opportunity to go to the loo in the mall, or at the coffee shop, but they did not. They made them self wait until at home.

I always asked me why did they do that?  Why did they talk about it? What was the really reason? 

Did they know that some boy gets aroused if girls hold their pee, that it is exciting for boys to know that girls would need to go, that they hold a bursting full bladder?

Did they wanted to turn us on this way? Did they  make us think at their panties and on that what was beneath their panties?

Did they wanted to show us their good bladder control and wanted make us think, that if they are good in holding, they must also be good in sex?

Or was it just arousing for them self to hold it, was the feeling of a overfilled bladder exciting, was it a carnally stimulating for them?

Was it a kind of game, or was it like a competition? 
I don’t know why they did it, but here on omorashi i read often that girls did not use the school toilet on purpose and that they did hold it until home.

I think  it was not always the bad condition of the toilets.

Later in my life i met ever and anon girl who said that they would need to go to the toilet but did not go.They sometimes did put it off for hours. 
What do you think are the different reasons for girls to hold a full bladder?

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5 hours ago, huberp76 said:

Later in my life i met ever and anon girl who said that they would need to go to the toilet but did not go.They sometimes did put it off for hours. 
What do you think are the different reasons for girls to hold a full bladder?

I think it is a mixture of many causes:

Firstly girls get educated in a different way than boys. Their mother tells the to go before going out of the house.


2nd:

Females have a shorter urethra and bacteria can reach their bladder much easier to get an UTI.


3rd:

As women cannot use an urinal, they have to use the toilet bowl.

Except at home most women hover over the seat while peeing. This makes it a vicious circle:

The seat is wet by pee splashes or even flooded and also by fecal trays and so the women hover (or use too much paper and block the tubes...).


4th:

The women develop a strong bladder by holding their pee outside their own home or best friends clean bathrooms.


5th:

Women won't like to show up weak or dirty by using public toilets as the others also refuse.


6th:

Women have their sexual organs and so also some of their erogene zones inside their bellies just beside their filling bladders.

The full bladder can rub at these erogene zones and stimulate it.

Some women enjoy this – as long as the pain or panic to wet doesn't disturb it too much.

Some braver women are used to hold a full bladder often and for longer periods of time than others. Some don't feel the pain as bad as others do. So some more enjoy a moderately full bladder – others fear it.

And those, who more enjoy than fear it, will endure it more often and not just accidentially, but deliberately or even openly competatively.


7th:

Some women are proud about their bladder strength and so show it to their female friends:

"I need to pee, but I can hold it some more time, until at home!"


And last but not least:

Some women like to be adored by their partner or other males they more or less like, as they found out, that these get fascinated or aroused by knowing how long time and bad these women have to pee. 

Or they at least have fun to see the male reaction to their statements of needing to pee bad for hours, but will hold it until at home – after drinking even more.

___
 

But take care, not all such statements are told for our ears. Probably it is just for their female friends to show "I am String" or "I enjoy a full bladder" or "I suffer and would like to get somewhere else to release".

I found many occasions to discretely talk to some women, who really held a bursting bladder in a regular base and were proud about it.

But I started carefully every time. Asked discretely about how she would be able to be here all night long with many drinks and possibly not a single pee for hours.


That includes:

You are interesting, I looked at you more than once (caution: but not observed or even controlled you...!!!).

And it includes, that she would have to pee now normally – but I see, that she still refuses and is that strong she can still do so successfully.

A open and naturally way combined with some diplomatic way would be good to find a for her comfortable atmosphere to talk about it – if she likes to do so...!

Some may like it – others may feel disturbed in their privacy and too intimate matters.

But after knowing each other the next time after such an obviously strong bladdered woman reacted positively not just to be polite, but because she was proud about her bladder and also liked to talk about it with me – then it sometimes happened, that such a women liked to talk about her strong and probably again full bladder. Either as such chances are rare in a nice was – or to make me nervous or to arouse me or even to have sex later on her bursting bladder or just without this extra...

The art to differ is the trick 😉

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Just speaking from personal experience if I have to hold it it is usually because I am holding it out of necessity, because there simply isn't an opportunity to go. There are lots of women who will avoid public toilets militantly because a lot of them are rather gross. But I know especially in high school often there was a line to the ladies room between classes, which often meant not getting to go, so I think that a lot of girls just gave up on trying to go at all and just learn to hold it all day. Personally I would try to go to the bathroom every opportunity I would have even if the odds were against me getting to go.


Something I bring up time and time again though is the fact that I think a lot of guys don't get that sometimes even when a bathroom is available it is often crowded or not very usable or lacking in amenities and other such things. So a lot of the cases when a woman is holding it she's not doing it for the pure joy of it, but simply because of the fact that sometimes it just isn't enough time to use the bathroom or the bathroom is not adequate to meet our needs.


I think this is something guys don't realize because it's very rare that a guy will find a toilet that's unusable, seeing as guys pee standing up and there is rarely a wait for the men's toilet. I know that in high school I never saw lines at the men's room and the men would come in and out but at the girls room there was frequently a line, so that girls were often holding it for several periods before finally getting a chance to go. When you only had four minutes between class you couldn't wait in line 5 minutes if there was a line at the girls bathroom.

 

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I have witnessed quite some situations where girls did not go to the toilet available. As a fetish lover, you immediately think they must enjoy it, but that is rarely so. The fact is that "going to the toilet" is a far more heavy topic in a girl's world than for us men.

Reasons I have witnessed:

- Sensitivities for hygienic conditions
Girls are a LOT more sensitive towards the conditions of a place (that's why you better clean up your room when a girl comes over!). So I know a female friend that gets nausea from the smell of public toilets. Or others have some obsession with cleanness - they only trust a toilet that has been cleaned by "proper people" (like themselves). It sounds a bit ridiculous when you hear it as a guy, but it is a big thing in many girl's heads.

- Safety reasons
Sometimes they don't find the toilets a safe place. Too much public around, people that can hear you, dodgy positioning (like in parking garages). The same as above: it mostly is in their heads, but it is very firmly in their heads. Often because they had a very negative or traumatic experience in a public toilet once. Or they have some sort of psychological disorder that gives them anxiety in such places. Note that taking your pants down and sitting on a toilet half naked is a far more vulnerable experience than just standing at a urinal.

- Time management
For women going to the toilet is quite a time and energy investment. Taking down clothes, sitting, wiping, etc. And that is without calculating in waiting time. So often when they are in a funny situation, they will delay the toilet visit till there is a decent opportunity. When they are in the presence of other men, they often don't want to keep you waiting for them - like a conditioning of women to be pleasing to men.
I also once had two girls on a festival that were timing their toilet visits so it would be "economically" optimal regarding lost time (there was a long line). So they encouraged each other to wait till the need was urgent before going. So they did complain about their need, but they delayed it.

- Habit, upbringing
For some women it feels not the proper thing to do: peeing in another place than at home. That's like a thing you only would do in utterly extreme circumstances. It's a bit like how many people are raised that "eating out is a waste of money", so they bring their own lunch to every event. Even when they could afford the comfort of just buying something at the event, they keep this conditioning.

- Empowered feeling
Some women boast that they are not peeing in other toilets than home. It's like they see it as a form of discipline that makes them better than the girls that go every five minutes. Or that they feel "too good" for the lower quality of public toilets. They often boast that they "learned it the hard way because of situation X where they had to hold it".

- (Sexual) pleasure
There are women who like the kick of holding it long. Maybe sexual in nature, but even that is not always true. People have so many kicks that involve some discomfort, to get the pleasure of finally reaching release.

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2 hours ago, DespLoveDennis said:

I have witnessed quite some situations where girls did not go to the toilet available. As a fetish lover, you immediately think they must enjoy it, but that is rarely so. The fact is that "going to the toilet" is a far more heavy topic in a girl's world than for us men.

Reasons I have witnessed:

- Sensitivities for hygienic conditions
Girls are a LOT more sensitive towards the conditions of a place (that's why you better clean up your room when a girl comes over!). So I know a female friend that gets nausea from the smell of public toilets. Or others have some obsession with cleanness - they only trust a toilet that has been cleaned by "proper people" (like themselves). It sounds a bit ridiculous when you hear it as a guy, but it is a big thing in many girl's heads.

- Safety reasons
Sometimes they don't find the toilets a safe place. Too much public around, people that can hear you, dodgy positioning (like in parking garages). The same as above: it mostly is in their heads, but it is very firmly in their heads. Often because they had a very negative or traumatic experience in a public toilet once. Or they have some sort of psychological disorder that gives them anxiety in such places. Note that taking your pants down and sitting on a toilet half naked is a far more vulnerable experience than just standing at a urinal.

- Time management
For women going to the toilet is quite a time and energy investment. Taking down clothes, sitting, wiping, etc. And that is without calculating in waiting time. So often when they are in a funny situation, they will delay the toilet visit till there is a decent opportunity. When they are in the presence of other men, they often don't want to keep you waiting for them - like a conditioning of women to be pleasing to men.
I also once had two girls on a festival that were timing their toilet visits so it would be "economically" optimal regarding lost time (there was a long line). So they encouraged each other to wait till the need was urgent before going. So they did complain about their need, but they delayed it.

- Habit, upbringing
For some women it feels not the proper thing to do: peeing in another place than at home. That's like a thing you only would do in utterly extreme circumstances. It's a bit like how many people are raised that "eating out is a waste of money", so they bring their own lunch to every event. Even when they could afford the comfort of just buying something at the event, they keep this conditioning.

- Empowered feeling
Some women boast that they are not peeing in other toilets than home. It's like they see it as a form of discipline that makes them better than the girls that go every five minutes. Or that they feel "too good" for the lower quality of public toilets. They often boast that they "learned it the hard way because of situation X where they had to hold it".

- (Sexual) pleasure
There are women who like the kick of holding it long. Maybe sexual in nature, but even that is not always true. People have so many kicks that involve some discomfort, to get the pleasure of finally reaching release.

 

These two are by far the biggest reasons for me to hold it instead of going. The first one being the biggest. I dont know why, but putting my naked butt on a toilet that isnt clean just doesnt work for me, it feels so disgusting I simply cant do it. I dont know why, I think its something with knowing that other people have had their butts on it aswell. But if I really really need to I try to either hover, which I find rather difficult, or squat over the toilet, which often makes a mess.

The other reason is the feeling that people will hear me, if theres other people outside. Or just the general feeling that unknown people are waiting for ME to get done peeing.

You know writing this makes it all feel really stupid and silly in a way that I havent thought about before 🤣

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For me, it was a couple things.

1. My bladder used to be able to hold at least 4x more than I can now, up until the last year of junior high and first year of high school. I used to be able to hold it for hours longer than all of my friends (now even the one with an overactive bladder canbhold longer and has fewer accidents), but holding it as long as I could was a way of showing off.

2. I had the misfortune to go to a particularly old-fashioned Catholic school that was in an isolated town at my great-grandmother's request, where girls who wanted to take a bathroom break had to be escorted by a boy volunteer. If none volunteered, no break. And sometimes they'd take their time, trying to get us to have an accident, then blame it on the fact that girls were the "inferior sex". So we kinda had to learned to hold it.

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@DespLoveDennis

"- Sensitivities for hygienic conditions
Girls are a LOT more sensitive towards the conditions of a place (that's why you better clean up your room when a girl comes over!). So I know a female friend that gets nausea from the smell of public toilets. Or others have some obsession with cleanness - they only trust a toilet that has been cleaned by "proper people" (like themselves). It sounds a bit ridiculous when you hear it as a guy, but it is a big thing in many girl's heads."

My mom and her sisters were that way, they always felt the public toilets were disgusting and would avoid them at all costs. I have always been sort of a slob if you look at my house we can barely walk as of all the books, but when it comes to a toilet it has to be some minimal degree of cleanliness. I'm not fanatical about it but one little pet peeve that I do have is if there's anything in the toilet whatsoever I have to flush the toilet before I use it as I will not sit and use a toilet with even so much as a shred of toilet paper from somebody else in it.


But cleanliness is definitely more of an issue with women because we actually have to sit on the toilet. Guys would probably be more skittish about using a public toilet if they had to sit on a seat that was wet or have their genitals and ass hanging over and getting splash back from water from a toilet bowl that others have been going in.

"- Safety reasons
Sometimes they don't find the toilets a safe place. Too much public around, people that can hear you, dodgy positioning (like in parking garages). The same as above: it mostly is in their heads, but it is very firmly in their heads. Often because they had a very negative or traumatic experience in a public toilet once. Or they have some sort of psychological disorder that gives them anxiety in such places. Note that taking your pants down and sitting on a toilet half naked is a far more vulnerable experience than just standing at a urinal."

I think this is also very true as well as women have to be more conscious of dangers in the environment seeing as women are more subject to the advances of sexual predators and people who would harm them, so I think that every woman tends to be cautious in places that are less than safe or that are shady or out-of-the-way areas, which a lot of toilets often are and you would think that people would take that into consideration when they build them, but no of course they don't.


There can be a lot of anxiety about using a public toilet and you are right that for women I have said numerous times that using a toilet is a much more intimate experience where you are sitting on the same seat that many other women have sat on, you are sitting half naked with your pants at your ankles with other women right next to you sitting in a similar state separated only by a slim stall divider and where you can hear everything. So it can be a rather intimidating environment.

"- Time management
For women going to the toilet is quite a time and energy investment. Taking down clothes, sitting, wiping, etc. And that is without calculating in waiting time. So often when they are in a funny situation, they will delay the toilet visit till there is a decent opportunity. When they are in the presence of other men, they often don't want to keep you waiting for them - like a conditioning of women to be pleasing to men.
I also once had two girls on a festival that were timing their toilet visits so it would be "economically" optimal regarding lost time (there was a long line). So they encouraged each other to wait till the need was urgent before going. So they did complain about their need, but they delayed it."

Yes this is something the guys I don't think often consider is the fact that for men going to the toilet is usually a quick thing where they just run in and out sometimes within less than a minute with no wait whatsoever. But for women going to the bathroom can be an ordeal as there is often a very long wait and it just takes women longer to go. Women can't just run into the bathroom piss into the urinal and run out within 30 seconds as it usually takes a minimum of a couple of minutes for women to use the bathroom and if there are several women needing to use the bathroom that can result in a rather long wait.

And this is what I brought up in my other thread about women often not getting to use the bathroom when there is a limited amount of time to use the bathroom. Sometimes it's just not convenient to nip off to the bathroom if there is like a 30 minute line. And if you are the only woman in the group, as I seem to have always been growing up, there's a lot of peer pressure when you are in a group of guys not to be the one holding everybody up for a half hour just as you want to take a piss, so then there is sort of that feeling of guilt if you make everybody wait so you end up agreeing that you will put off going to the bathroom or you will be pressured into putting it off.


And yes though you will sometimes complain you will generally concede to the group and not want to be the person holding everybody up. So what often happens is that the guys will get several opportunities to piss before you even get one chance to piss within a reasonable time, and sometimes eventually you will end up waiting until eventually you just have to wait in line because you can't take it any longer and then the guys who have gone several times are wondering, why is this woman getting so hysterical, forgetting that she has been holding it and holding it and holding it all that time.

Once again it goes back to what I keep saying about men peeing is taken as a given where as women peeing as we will get to it when we get to it. Men getting to go to the bathroom whenever they need to is the norm where as women are just expected to put off their need to until it's convenient for everybody in the group.

"- Habit, upbringing
For some women it feels not the proper thing to do: peeing in another place than at home. That's like a thing you only would do in utterly extreme circumstances. It's a bit like how many people are raised that "eating out is a waste of money", so they bring their own lunch to every event. Even when they could afford the comfort of just buying something at the event, they keep this conditioning."

This was again the way my mom and aunts were pretty much would never go to the bathroom away from home unless they were out a really long time and they simply had no other choice. It was a habit they tried to ingrain in me but I had to go to the bathroom too frequently so it just didn't take!

"- Empowered feeling
Some women boast that they are not peeing in other toilets than home. It's like they see it as a form of discipline that makes them better than the girls that go every five minutes. Or that they feel "too good" for the lower quality of public toilets. They often boast that they "learned it the hard way because of situation X where they had to hold it"."

I personally don't find holding it to be empowering although I know some who are like that. Personally I would rather take a piss! But I have to admit that my job that has forced me to hold it have made me somewhat sometimes feel superior over the fact that I can now hold it because I have to and makes me somewhat less sympathetic towards those who complain about having to pee in less difficult situations, although I fully admit it's totally because I am jealous of the fact that they have a more convenient time relieving themselves!

"- (Sexual) pleasure
There are women who like the kick of holding it long. Maybe sexual in nature, but even that is not always true. People have so many kicks that involve some discomfort, to get the pleasure of finally reaching release."

I feel that's probably true for a good majority of people on this board are a significant portion anyway, but probably not very common in the general population. I never hold it in public out of sexual pleasure although I have to admit that when I am stuck in a situation where I can't pee I will nonetheless find it arousing regardless of whether the situation is wanted or not such as when I am at work.

@silvermoon

"2. I had the misfortune to go to a particularly old-fashioned Catholic school that was in an isolated town at my great-grandmother's request, where girls who wanted to take a bathroom break had to be escorted by a boy volunteer. If none volunteered, no break. And sometimes they'd take their time, trying to get us to have an accident, then blame it on the fact that girls were the "inferior sex". So we kinda had to learned to hold it."

This is why am so glad that my parents never send me to Catholic school and I sometimes wonder if it's because of their bad experiences in Catholic school that they don't go to the bathroom. I've never heard of something like that before though where you had to wait for a boy to escort you to the bathroom, honestly that sounds like something from the Taliban and sharia law, a woman can't go unless she is escorted by a man, but it's the virulent sexism of religious groups like that that is probably why am such a militant secularist.


It also kind of reminds me of that novel I wanted to write The Handmaid's Bladder, about a world where men have total control over women's bathroom access as a way of controlling fertility (I realize that makes no logical sense but that's part of the point I'm trying to make in the novel).

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Cleanliness seems to be a big concern for girls, probably because they have to sit to pee. School toilets are often not the cleanest places so girls prefer to wait. How they manage to wait a whole school day plus the walk or bus ride there and back I don't know, especially as we're talking children here who's bladders are not as well developed as a fully grown adults. Is it common for girls to hold their pee at work as well? The small number of females at workplace use the toilets, but perhaps the tea or coffee drinking nature of an office job makes it nessassary.

Another reason I think is being embarrassed about someone hearing them go to the toilet. I saw an article about why students avoid using school toilets and a quote from a female student said just that. I guess puberty makes them self concious and they don't want others hearing them relieve themselves even though it's natural. Once they gets in their head I guess it stays with them into adulthood unless they overcome it.

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I'm a guy, but I've talked with a fair few girls who held their pee all day in school. There were several reasons, and here are the ones I remember off the top of my head:

- cleanliness

- other people doing bad/weird things in the bathrooms

- fear of being judged for their stream

 

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Laziness....... Can’t be bothered to go and waits till they HAVE to go......

I visited my mate who has a younger sister who came into his room to be with us for the company as she was bored we were 18 she 16, she was sitting on the floor engaging in the conversation jiggling her legs then she switched to sit on a chair legs crossed under her grey school skirt alternating the leg crossing shifting as she did so, my mate wanted her to leave saying I thought you were bursting ages ago, go to the toilet, she giggled and said ‘I am, can’t be bothered’ after a while she got up to look out the window and did a pee dance as she looked out, she couldn’t stand still so she sat back down on the chair jiggling in her seat, she read a magazine as she sat legs crossed tapping her foot, after a bit she got up to look out the window again saying she was going, now she was squirming as she looked out then turned to leave and went to pee,

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Quite a lot of girls at my school used to avoid the toilets for the same kind of reasons mentioned above - cleanliness, hygiene, 'chavs' smoking in there, not wanting other people to hear them weeing etc. It would always amaze me as when I first started secondary school I used to pee at both morning break and lunchtime and would still be bursting by the end of the school day, it wasn't until my later school years that I became confident enough to hold all day. I remember a few weeks after starting school, I was standing with some friends at the end of the day about to walk home together when one girl crossed her legs and sighed in frustration complaining that she was 'dying for a piss' but didn't even know where the toilets were as she had never used them once! 

I do think that a small number of girls enjoyed the feeling of holding their pee. I remember during one afternoon maths lesson, a girl sitting behind me complained several times about how badly she needed a wee and a boy sitting in front of her asked her how it felt. She described it as a 'like a tingling feeling' then when he asked her if she ever held it on purpose because she liked the feeling, she said yes straight away then got very embarrassed and shy and denied it. After the lesson she walked straight past the toilets! This girl was in a few of my classes and often seemed to be squirming around in her seat needing a wee but refused to ever use the school loos. 

 

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1 hour ago, Despguy123 said:

Quite a lot of girls at my school used to avoid the toilets for the same kind of reasons mentioned above - cleanliness, hygiene, 'chavs' smoking in there, not wanting other people to hear them weeing etc. It would always amaze me as when I first started secondary school I used to pee at both morning break and lunchtime and would still be bursting by the end of the school day, it wasn't until my later school years that I became confident enough to hold all day. I remember a few weeks after starting school, I was standing with some friends at the end of the day about to walk home together when one girl crossed her legs and sighed in frustration complaining that she was 'dying for a piss' but didn't even know where the toilets were as she had never used them once! 

I do think that a small number of girls enjoyed the feeling of holding their pee. I remember during one afternoon maths lesson, a girl sitting behind me complained several times about how badly she needed a wee and a boy sitting in front of her asked her how it felt. She described it as a 'like a tingling feeling' then when he asked her if she ever held it on purpose because she liked the feeling, she said yes straight away then got very embarrassed and shy and denied it. After the lesson she walked straight past the toilets! This girl was in a few of my classes and often seemed to be squirming around in her seat needing a wee but refused to ever use the school loos. 

 

I always did like it and i am still loving  it if girls need to wee but don’t go, can’t go, or are not allowed to go.

Since i can remember it is  arousing for me to hear a girl say that she would need to wee really bad, or if she says that she is needing to pee since a long time  and then  still don’t go for hours more.

There were girls in our school who said at lunch that they would need a loo, but did not go and walked late at afternoon  to the bus past the toilet and did  still  did not  use it.

I always had the desire to take such a girl to a place where she could absolutely not go for some  hours more. I wanted to know, to see, to hear what would happen.

I remember we were a group of boys and girls who spendet the day together. At afternoon the boys and some girls went to the loo in a shopping mall, one girl was waiting outside. When the others came back they asked the waiting girl  if she would not need to go and the girl answered that she would need to, but she is a big girl, she can wait until at home.

She did hold it  for the rest of the afternoon and all evening, i loved it and we all did know that she was needing to wee and that her bladder was full.

I think that some girls wants to demonstrate their body control and their bladder control, maybe they like the feeling from their overfilled bladder, maybe they get aroused from their strong urge, or maybe they want just to show  how long they are able not to wee, to show how strong they are.

I wrote about  three girls in my school who did never use the school toilets.

Once we made a school outing, the girls decided not to go to the loo the entire day. From leaving at home in the morning  until arriving at home at evening.

They did not talk about it, but one of the girls who was living next to my home did tell it  to me in the morning  on the way to the bus station.

She did not know how much that  was turning me on.

I did not know why they did it, was it a kind of game or a competition, whatever  the situation made me horny.
I did love to hear them talk about how urgently they would need to wee and how full their bladders already were.

They did not go to the toilet the entire day, not even on the way to the bus, before we did leave for a 2 hour journey home.

All three girls were full to burst as we arrived. They made themselves drink a lot during the day, i think that they were sadistic and wanted to see the others suffer!?

The girl who was living next to  me, went with me in the underground. We had no seat, she was standing with her legs tight crossed .

She did not wee since more than 13 hours and she did drink a lot all day, she must have been absolutely full!

She was rubbing her knees, looked at me and said “it’s time for me to get home, before i doing it in my panties.”

I was hard at the moment! 
She did wear a short skirt, her knees and her thighs were naked and i did not know what i would have loved more, to see her wet her panties, to see her hot wee running down on the nude skin  over her thighs to  her white knee socks until they turned yellow, or to see her fight against her strong urge.

 

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