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What truly forms a kink for Omo? Do we really know?


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Hello all, I’m back. This question came to mind to me about a month ago, yet I never really felt like I could give this my best thought until I fully understood the question. Let’s get into it.

About one month ago, I posted a community question asking about how your kink formed. You guys gave me some awesome stories and I loved reading them all, but as I read them I always realized something. This was that not all of you got it kickstarted with one experience. For some of you it had to do with your structure of life. For some of you it was growing up with it. For some of you it befell from bad situations you were put in. Thus my search begins for a solution.

Are we really born with this?

This question really swarmed my mind today. I know that the human organism is the most complex thing you can try and explain, but I know genetics affect a lot about how people act and feel. This question can apply to other things, such as becoming LGBTQ or even something as simple as a fear or phobia. I’ve heard many claims supporting that genetics influence this stuff, and I’ve heard people reject this claim. I personally think it’s definite that genetics have something to do with it, considering we are among a very small minority portion of people in the world who have this kink. I’ll swarm back to this later.

Does your childhood or adolescence affect this?

I really mean this for every age but I’m sure for most people this is usually when they discover their kink. Circumstances is the big word that comes to mind here for me. Another word that comes to mind is influence. What made it so that this kink truly developed? Could it have been troubles in going to the bathroom at school? Was it due to depression and anxiety? Was it due to a lack of a functional bladder? It could be anything, but any of these could be a trigger. If this is the case then the kink would slowly develop and would be gradual up to the point of normality.

Could it be from a sudden trigger moment?

I believe the answer to this question is yes but also depends. For me I first discovered my kink through a witnessed near wetting, or at least that’s what I thought. When I looked back after that day I always seemed to have a different reaction with hearing the word pee. Here’s what I think: no trigger moment can completely form the kink, but rather needs the small subtle lead up steps to it to have it truly work. Once this moment works the kink doesn’t fully form but first pops up into the mind of the recipient. Sometimes it develops faster than others depending mostly on the personality and age of the person.

To be continued

I won’t drag this out too long but I still have a few more questions. I just don’t want to bore you guys 🙂. Thanks for reading!

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It is a fascinating question whether it is genetic or environmental, or for me whether there is any correlation with my being gay. I guess I can't explain how I got into wetting, I do know I had some bladder anxiety as a child and a primary school wetting but if anything those memories are negative and wouldn't naturally lend themselves to forming a kink in later lafe. In adolescence I was excited reading the "how embarrassing" sections in teen magazines and on the internet, and for some reason the desparation and wetting ones were the most exciting for me. But I think another reason my kink developed was I enjoyed the naughty thrill of peeing in the sea and that encouraged my to try wetting. I was also really excited when other guys said they enjoyed peeing in the sea (whom I wouldn't expect to enjoy it so much) and that has made me wonder whether they ever thought to try wetting in private to recreate this (though no-one I know in real life has ever confessed anything like this). Other guys have said they pee in the shower (and I have often wanted to ask the question with or without clothes). I did once read a book where a writer thinking about the origins of sexuality (genetic or environmental) actually referenced fetishes (including desperation and pants wetting) as a topic which would be interesting to research, but it is such a taboo area that I think most people who are into this are deeply closeted except to their most trusting partners.

I have noticed on this site that there are a range of kinks: some into holding and desperation as the main thing, some into wetting as the main thing (publicly or privately), others into watching love interests desperate or wet (but not into doing it themselves) so it can get very niche. Maybe personality traits, specific experiences and sexual preferences (dominant/submissive etc.) all play a part.

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The highway I'd use for school and later work would always get horrible in the winter, to the point where it's stop-and-go traffic. Often I'd see women open their car door and start letting loose. Sometimes they'd do it right in front of my car, it was always a sight to behold. 

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I don't know if we'll ever know for sure, but I think it's something that develops during adolescence. Most likely because of childhood events revolving around peeing or wetting. When this question comes up I see a lot of people recounting stories from their childhood, and I bet those memories played a part in developing this fetish.

For me personally, I remember having a pretty weak bladder during childhood. It wasn't weak to the point of me having full on visible accidents, but I would regularly have small leaks that resulted in me often walking around with wet underwear. 

This is something I had somewhat forgotten up until I started thinking about this very question. It makes me wonder if others also have these "hidden" memories that could be a reason why we have this fetish.

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For me I think mine formed from the one time I lost control, when I was three or four and just dropped my shorts and started peeing right on the bathroom floor at home. But I'm not positive it started then, because I feel like I've really just always had a fascination with everything revolving around pee, especially desperation: the squirming, the dancing, the crossed legs, the throbbing ache, the panic... I know now as an adult most of it has to do with a need for control stemming from childhood bullying and repeated horribly manipulative/controlling relationships, both friendship and romantic, which severely fucked up my perceptions of affection and which left me feeling extremely isolated and unable to take charge of anything in my own life, including my life. So having my bladder be the one thing that I can reliably, repeatedly control, or seeing other people attempt and then fail to control theirs... it's cathartic, and it's wonderful. 

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I would assume that there's a natural tendency to being sexually attracted to pee, just because it's the same for a lot of other animals. For many species, urine is a kind of messenger of fertility, heat or dominance. Males often intentionally pee on themselves because the intense scent increases their attractiveness in the eyes (or rather noses) of the females and urine is used to mark their territory.

In my opinion we still have some of this left in us, but our upbringing ("toilet training") usually inhibits this. Since we're told from a very young age that our body excretions are "bad" and "disgusting", since our sense of smell has lost its meaning and our preferences have changed (rose water and vanilla: yummy! sweat, pee and poo: boo!), we don't let this part of us get to us anymore.

For me I can say that I had a certain attraction to pee related stuff from a very young age and I probably just never lost it through my upbringing. I have a very sensitive sense of smell - not in the sense that I'm easily disgusted, but rather that I'm able to smell a lot of nuances - and that might've contributed. When it comes to my sex partners, I'm not much into perfume, but I love myself a little bit of sweat (if it's not too old), musk odor and the original smell of a human body. Why a woman would use anything like deodorant to distort her smell "down there" is a mystery to me.

This is not scientific, but my personal view. But as a psychologist I'm almost sure that it is, in most cases at least, probably not a "single trigger moment" that shapes our sexual attraction. I would guess that part of it is genetic (or, as I just said, the attraction to urine is likely in all of us at birth) and then it depends on a multitude of experiences you make over time. Once you start experimenting with pee related stuff and it gets connected with sexual arousal and positive consequences (aka orgasm), there's a tendency this connection only gets stronger over time. That's the basics of learning theory.

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I remember growing up, I’d hear my Grandma always say she was dying to pee anytime we were on the road for awhile or at dinner. She would never go out in public. And my dad, well he’s a guy so it probably never occurred to him at all.

Long story short, I’ve always thought of it as a hereditary trait. Like, during sex not everyone wants their nipples played with. But those who do, go wild for it. (Me) So yeah, I think genetics definitely play a part in it as does experiences growing up. Or at the very least, heightened nerve sensitivity in the bladder/urethra.

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I doubt very much whether there is anything genetic about it. I assume that it is connected with early experience of peeing or wetting that was in some way pleasureable or significant in some other way.  I do think that there is often what I call an "epiphany" experience connected with wetting, often in adolescence, often highl sexual, that locks in unconxciously to that early experience. The link between wetting and sexual pleasure is aroused and becomes fixed.

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When my stepbrother and his friends made me wet my jeans going home from middle school it like kinda connected wetting with guilt and shame. That's bout when I really knew I am gay, and then I totally started masturbating like a lot. That kinda connected everything for me and wetting was like fun and sexual and shame and being free all together. If that makes sense.

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I love this topic, because I've mulled over it for years. I agree, it may not be any ONE experience that kickstarts the fetish. Personally, I don't recall ever seeing anyone be desperate to pee when I was younger. I think, one day, I just "wondered how it would feel to pee through my clothing." Or...my home had a huge yard, so I'd hide in a patch of bushes, naked from the waist down, and shoot my pee all over the shrubbery, because I "wondered what it would be like to do that." 

 

But I wonder, from a scientific standpoint, WHAT in my brain caused me to think emptying my bladder outdoors (or into my clothing, in a towel, in containers, etc etc) would be a cool idea. It was indeed an incredibly cool idea, one I indulge in as much as I can these days. But is there a part of the brain that controls rebelliousness? Maybe we think, "Ooh, we aren't supposed to do this. But it's pretty harmless, let's try it." 

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This is a tough question. I’ve always been obsessed with pee/wetting from a young age. I also had an experience where I really embarrassingly peed my shorts as a child that has always stuck with me. I got over it and never really thought of omorashi as a kink until I was in college and a couple I knew/lived with admitted that they played around with it in the bedroom. Then that re-lit that interest in me, I started seeking out omo porn, then started playing with it myself/with partners. The rest is history.

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I think my point about a sexual "epiphany" is not how it is for everyone but it is for some of us. Adolescence is a highly charged time, sexually, and if an experience connected with peeing or wetting is associated with sexual arousal then that may well become embedded in the unconscious and then retrieved and re-experienced consciously for a lifetime. However, I do suspect that, for some people, the association of wetting with sensual pleasure, warmth or comfort may well lie much earlier in childhood and is then re-awoken by a specific incident.

Of course, for some people,  wetting is not necessarily sexual. One woman I used to know told me that, as a teenager, she used to wet herself in private to relieve emotional tension when things got "too much". She said that she often felt really tense or angry and would wet herself and that she just felt "much calmer" after doing it. Although it was primarily to relieve the tension she did also realise that she found it both comforting and sensually pleasurable. That established a habit that continued into adulthood when she would regularly wet her panties to relieve tension or wet a diaper or pullup just for warmth and comfort

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19 minutes ago, benverona said:

I think my point about a sexual "epiphany" is not how it is for everyone but it is for some of us. Adolescence is a highly charged time, sexually, and if an experience connected with peeing or wetting is associated with sexual arousal then that may well become embedded in the unconscious and then retrieved and re-experienced consciously for a lifetime. However, I do suspect that, for some people, the association of wetting with sensual pleasure, warmth or comfort may well lie much earlier in childhood and is then re-awoken by a specific incident.

Of course, for some people,  wetting is not necessarily sexual. One woman I used to know told me that, as a teenager, she used to wet herself in private to relieve emotional tension when things got "too much". She said that she often felt really tense or angry and would wet herself and that she just felt "much calmer" after doing it. Although it was primarily to relieve the tension she did also realise that she found it both comforting and sensually pleasurable. That established a habit that continued into adulthood when she would regularly wet her panties to relieve tension or wet a diaper or pullup just for warmth and comfort

Not gonna lie, I do sometimes wet my pants or diapers to relieve tension when I’m stressed. It’s just so freeing in both a mental and sensational (meaning sense of touch) way.

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I think things like sexual orientation and gender identity are more inborn, more nature than nurture, seeing as though seem to be indicating from the like youngest possible age and even show signs of brain differences, so I think that that's hardwired into us because that is something that we seem to be born with and that there doesn't seem to be any way to change that really.


When it comes to specific fetishes I tend to be more towards the nurture side of things, as I think the way our specific sexual tastes developed has to do with experience. Our gender identity and sexual orientation will of course color what specific things that we are drawn to and how we express that, but I think that in terms of fetishes it's more of a case of nurture and experience than something inborn. No one in my family definitely has an interest in pee or any of the weird things that interest me, but I can definitely see how I developed the pee interest from a large series of experiences where I was stuck holding and gradually came to eroticize the events.


I mean again maybe it's just for my own experience that I am biased towards that, but I think that some things are definitely more nurture and some things are definitely more nature, and when it comes to specific things like the pee fetish I can definitely see nurture having a big role but I can't see anything inborn that would indicate why I would have this interest. In fact until I started becoming of sexual maturity I used to really hate holding it and found it irritating but then I guess when I became to sexual maturity I started to find frustrating and humiliating situations where my primary turn on, who would've figured?!

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This is a really interesting topic and an intersection of my professional and perverted life…

I think for me (and I dare say most people) early childhood experiences come into it a lot and form the basic of what we find arousing into our adolescence. 
 

I don’t want to go to into my own early childhood experiences of wetting as that is both too personal and really quite weird/probably against the forum rules but witnessing adults wet themselves as a child must have had something to do with it for me.

I remember as a kid being taken into women’s toilets by my mum or other female relatives and it wasn’t uncommon to see women wetting or on the verge of wetting there. 
 

im guessing that’s where it became hardwired in me. 
 

 

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Part 2: The effect

Hello all again! Last time I talked about the possible causations of the formation of a kink; today is the effect day.

Now, when answering how it effects people in different ways one might want to ask themselves the questions Who? Where? When? and How? Let’s start with the who.

Who: Personality is the sole divider of human kind. It makes us all unique, but what does it have to do with the effect of a kink? Let’s think about it for a moment. When we talk about an omo kink there are many different ways it can be split up into. Some people just like seeing wettings while other like to wet themselves. Some people are a bit more aggressive with their kink and choose to drink their pee. Personality has a big thing to do with this. This also connects back to another old reading I wrote a few months back about bladder shy vs bladder expressive. I saw a lot of comments about how people were very shy as a person and very bladder shy as well. Those who are usually shy in my opinion are usually not wanting to be that expressive about their kink to others. When also thinking about this we have to think about the people who create videos and put themselves out there. Those who are open to showing themselves wet are brave people for sure, but I know that some of them are really shy people as well. You guys ever heard of FluffyOmorashi? If you ever went on her tumblr she was a really nice girl who was very enclosed and always acting really shy. I wasn’t sure if it was an act but I don’t think it was. If I were to generalize I would say most shy people are not willing to put themselves out there. What about the other end of the spectrum? Well let’s look at them too but in a different way.

Where and when: I always heard in you guys’ responses an emphasis on age and environment. To most people a kink forms before they are 18. Once said person turns around 13-16 their kink could evolve into something a bit more sexual. Why is it that the kink forms at such a young age? Well, environment is a big thing too, and it provides a kickstart for the kink for sure, especially in kids. Some of us didn’t have as much access to bathrooms when we were young, so we either experienced or saw extreme desperation when we were young. Some of us just had one select moment where it really started the kink. When I think about this second scenario I think about how PTSD affects someone, but how this helps us express basically the opposite side of emotions.

How? Well I already really talked about this in the beginning and throughout the reading, but not really all of it. We all know that omo isn’t just simple wetting, it’s much more that you can make it. That’s what some of us do, meanwhile some of us just prefer the simple feeling of a wetting with nothing else. It’s kind of like drinks (wow, how creative). Flavors are everything in drinks and people like a lot of different flavors, but in some people like me I like just simple water. This kink allows people to look at a wide variety of topics and this is because of the variation we have in this community.

Thanks for reading my people! Thank you so much for the responses, I love reading all of them. I hope you all have a great day 🙂!!

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I like JensH2's reply above.

I have always thought that this was partly about smell, and that makes me wonder if everyone smells pee the same way - just as some people like sprouts, while others can't bear them. I guess that aspect is probably genetic.

I'd also like to say that a number of men here have reported beeing excessively shy and awkward with the opposite sex - usually while they were a teenager. Indeed, I had that problem as a teenager. Notably, TVGuy mentioned the same problem some time ago.

I suspect that boys who are not getting any real dating fun will tend to take an interest in alternative ways to satisfy themselves.

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