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46 minutes ago, LifeIsStrange said:

I'm confused, what do you mean by "picturing"?  Do you mean drawing?

Yes. My English isn't really good enough to explain this nuanced, but I can try. The law actually prohibits all kind of picturing (also fictional picturing) of anyone under 18 in a way where the main purpose is to sexualize children in a way that is harmful for society. Photos, videos, drawings, painting, and written texts are also included in this. I googled around abit, and found out that somebody was actually imprissoned for writing fictional stories. The law is somewhat vague though, as there are exception if the purpose was to produce something of artistic value.

BTW. I do not have too much of an issue with any content on omorashi.org. I just skip the stuff that doesn't interest me. To each their own, right. But I do find it strange that this forum for example absolutely condemn voyeurism, because it is illegal and immoral. If you post a link to voyeur videos at xhanster or Thisvid, it gets deleted. Fair enough to be against it, but these are already on the internet where everyone can easily find them. And I have even seen people who think we shouldn't post stuff from YouTube, Twitch, etc. because those people never intended to be sexualized. That is pulling it abit far, in my opinion. Therefore, cosidering all this, I don't think it is unfair to ask why it is so relaxed about sexualization of under aged stuff on here.

5 minutes ago, SoggyShorts said:

I took it to mean depicting, photographing, etc., in other words, making porn of it.

Depicting is maybe a better word.

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17 minutes ago, ed2 said:

Yes. My English isn't really good enough to explain this nuanced, but I can try. The law actually prohibits all kind of picturing (also fictional picturing) of anyone under 18 in a way where the main purpose is to sexualize children in a way that is harmful for society. Photos, videos, drawings, painting, and written texts are also included in this. I googled around abit, and found out that somebody was actually imprissoned for writing fictional stories. The law is somewhat vague though, as there are exception if the purpose was to produce something of artistic value.

BTW. I do not have too much of an issue with any content on omorashi.org. I just skip the stuff that doesn't interest me. To each their own, right. But I do find it strange that this forum for example absolutely condemn voyeurism, because it is illegal and immoral. If you post a link to voyeur videos at xhanster or Thisvid, it gets deleted. Fair enough to be against it, but these are already on the internet where everyone can easily find them. And I have even seen people who think we shouldn't post stuff from YouTube, Twitch, etc. because those people never intended to be sexualized. That is pulling it abit far, in my opinion. Therefore, cosidering all this, I don't think it is unfair to ask why it is so relaxed about sexualization of under aged stuff on here.

Depicting is maybe a better word.

Yikes that sounds WAY too draconian and Orwellian for my tastes, i'm definitely glad I don't live over there(well for that and the whole ill-advised attempt at getting herd immunity for COVID via not wearing masks or social-distancing at all), as if some lemon fics about kids shows or drawings are somehow "harmful to society"🙄, ugh I hate that nanny-state holier-than-thou BS.  I remember that one case where someone in the U.S. ordered some Manga that had some sexualized scenes featuring girls that would be underage be U.S. standards and he actually went to jail over it, there was a big controversy over ity and everything.  That whole thing really disturbed me, someone should NOT be imprisoned just for buying Manga regardless of the ages of the characters in them nor should they be imprisoned just for writing sexual stories about kids or doing drawings of them.  I'm very much against that kind of censorship and those Big Brother-style laws that try to dictate how people think.  I thought Europe was supposed to be more open-minded then the USA when it comes to sex stuff, guess not so much.

But if you want an answer as to why it's so relaxed, it's because Omorashi is biggest in Japan and Japan just so happens to do a lot of fictional media that sexualizes young girls, so it makes sense that this site is fine with stories and art depicting younger characters.

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18 minutes ago, LifeIsStrange said:

Yikes that sounds WAY too draconian and Orwellian for my tastes, i'm definitely glad I don't live over there(well for that and the whole ill-advised attempt at getting herd immunity for COVID via not wearing masks or social-distancing at all), as if some lemon fics about kids shows or drawings are somehow "harmful to society"🙄, ugh I hate that nanny-state holier-than-thou BS.  I remember that one case where someone in the U.S. ordered some Manga that had some sexualized scenes featuring girls that would be underage be U.S. standards and he actually went to jail over it, there was a big controversy over ity and everything.  That whole thing really disturbed me, someone should NOT be imprisoned just for buying Manga regardless of the ages of the characters in them nor should they be imprisoned just for writing sexual stories about kids or doing drawings of them.  I'm very much against that kind of censorship and those Big Brother-style laws that try to dictate how people think.  I thought Europe was supposed to be more open-minded then the USA when it comes to sex stuff, guess not so much.

But if you want an answer as to why it's so relaxed, it's because Omorashi is biggest in Japan and Japan just so happens to do a lot of fictional media that sexualizes young girls, so it makes sense that this site is fine with stories and art depicting younger characters.

I think the legislation might be similar over at you too, it is just open to alot of interpretation. I don't think anyon would get in trouble for writing a few stories at a place like omo.org. The case I read about was likely in addition to something alot more serious. We had a rather ugly network being discovered a few years back.

Also, I think the USA is alot more strickt about nudity. Like Instagram takes down all kind of photos. Our laws says that it has to be sexualized in a way that is harmful. It also states that nudity is not necessarily sexual.

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1 hour ago, ed2 said:

I think the legislation might be similar over at you too, it is just open to alot of interpretation. I don't think anyon would get in trouble for writing a few stories at a place like omo.org. The case I read about was likely in addition to something alot more serious. We had a rather ugly network being discovered a few years back.

Also, I think the USA is alot more strickt about nudity. Like Instagram takes down all kind of photos. Our laws says that it has to be sexualized in a way that is harmful. It also states that nudity is not necessarily sexual.

On TV we are yes, I didn't know about Instagram taking photos down though.  

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21 hours ago, LifeIsStrange said:

Yikes that sounds WAY too draconian and Orwellian for my tastes, i'm definitely glad I don't live over there(well for that and the whole ill-advised attempt at getting herd immunity for COVID via not wearing masks or social-distancing at all), as if some lemon fics about kids shows or drawings are somehow "harmful to society"🙄, ugh I hate that nanny-state holier-than-thou BS.  I remember that one case where someone in the U.S. ordered some Manga that had some sexualized scenes featuring girls that would be underage be U.S. standards and he actually went to jail over it, there was a big controversy over ity and everything.  That whole thing really disturbed me, someone should NOT be imprisoned just for buying Manga regardless of the ages of the characters in them nor should they be imprisoned just for writing sexual stories about kids or doing drawings of them.  I'm very much against that kind of censorship and those Big Brother-style laws that try to dictate how people think.  I thought Europe was supposed to be more open-minded then the USA when it comes to sex stuff, guess not so much.

But if you want an answer as to why it's so relaxed, it's because Omorashi is biggest in Japan and Japan just so happens to do a lot of fictional media that sexualizes young girls, so it makes sense that this site is fine with stories and art depicting younger characters.

It's an interesting definition of "openness" that revolves around whacking off to school children. I don't think that's what most people mean when they talk about a liberal and tolerant society, which I would say I also support.

I've already stated earlier that Japan does not have a low age of consent outside a few uninhabited islands, so I've said my piece, but it's safe to say such desires are not acceptable there either. Similarly, as you have discovered, Europe does not look kindly on such predatory desires either.

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On 12/29/2020 at 3:41 PM, Skirt Accident said:

It's an interesting definition of "openness" that revolves around whacking off to school children. I don't think that's what most people mean when they talk about a liberal and tolerant society, which I would say I also support.

I've already stated earlier that Japan does not have a low age of consent outside a few uninhabited islands, so I've said my piece, but it's safe to say such desires are not acceptable there either. Similarly, as you have discovered, Europe does not look kindly on such predatory desires either.

But we're not talking about actual real life kids here, we're talking about FICTIONAL characters, so that's a vastly different ballgame.  Most people wouldn't have an issue with rule 34 art of young characters in kids shows, or at the very least they certainly wouldn't think it was worth jailing people over, i'm sorry but that's just nuts to me and most people in the USA and in other countries would agree with me on that one. 

Also writing erotic stories based on kids shows or doing erotic fan-art does NOT automatically mean one has "predatory desires". I certainly hope that wasn't what you were implying, because that would be incredibly disingenuous and downright offensive if that was what you were saying. 

As far as i'm concerned, nobody who claims to be liberal or tolerant has any right to call themselves that if they seriously think getting off to erotic fanfics of kids shows or erotic fanart(especially anime in Japan that mind you does sexualize characters that would be considered underage in the west) is any way comparable to actual real life child porn or that people who do that sort of thing(fan art and stories) should be jailed, i'm sorry but stories like this send a chill down my spine and make me concerned:https://www.wired.com/2010/02/obscene-us-manga-collector-jailed-6-months/#:~:text=sex and bestiality.-,Christopher Handley was sentenced in Iowa on Thursday%2C (.,the sexual abuse of children."

I know that about Japan but it does not change the fact that a ton of mainstream media over there blatantly sexualizes characters that would be considered underage elsewhere. So if they can do that sort of thing in official mainstream media over there and it's accepted, I see nothing at all wrong with fans doing adult stories and fanart about kids shows. Yes desires to sexualize real life kids aren't seen as acceptable over there, but that's definitely not true for fictional kid characters, as otherwise you wouldn't see so many sexualized characters 13-15 in Manga and Anime over there.

Countries like Norway and Sweden can keep their loony laws, but i'm perfectly happy to live in a country where I won't have to worry about being demonized and jailed just for innocently writing about some shows or doing fan-art.

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On 12/31/2020 at 9:29 PM, LifeIsStrange said:

But we're not talking about actual real life kids here, we're talking about FICTIONAL characters, so that's a vastly different ballgame.  Most people wouldn't have an issue with rule 34 art of young characters in kids shows, or at the very least they certainly wouldn't think it was worth jailing people over, i'm sorry but that's just nuts to me and most people in the USA and in other countries would agree with me on that one. 

Also writing erotic stories based on kids shows or doing erotic fan-art does NOT automatically mean one has "predatory desires". I certainly hope that wasn't what you were implying, because that would be incredibly disingenuous and downright offensive if that was what you were saying. 

As far as i'm concerned, nobody who claims to be liberal or tolerant has any right to call themselves that if they seriously think getting off to erotic fanfics of kids shows or erotic fanart(especially anime in Japan that mind you does sexualize characters that would be considered underage in the west) is any way comparable to actual real life child porn or that people who do that sort of thing(fan art and stories) should be jailed, i'm sorry but stories like this send a chill down my spine and make me concerned:https://www.wired.com/2010/02/obscene-us-manga-collector-jailed-6-months/#:~:text=sex and bestiality.-,Christopher Handley was sentenced in Iowa on Thursday%2C (.,the sexual abuse of children."

I know that about Japan but it does not change the fact that a ton of mainstream media over there blatantly sexualizes characters that would be considered underage elsewhere. So if they can do that sort of thing in official mainstream media over there and it's accepted, I see nothing at all wrong with fans doing adult stories and fanart about kids shows. Yes desires to sexualize real life kids aren't seen as acceptable over there, but that's definitely not true for fictional kid characters, as otherwise you wouldn't see so many sexualized characters 13-15 in Manga and Anime over there.

Countries like Norway and Sweden can keep their loony laws, but i'm perfectly happy to live in a country where I won't have to worry about being demonized and jailed just for innocently writing about some shows or doing fan-art.

That case in Virginia was over a decade ago, when American attitudes to sex were somewhat less liberal than they are now (online porn has become far more socially accepted since 2010 as religion has declined). The intervening years have seen the legalisation of gay marriage and an increase in cultural liberalism. I'd be very surprised to see anyone convicted for a few cartoons there now. The artist Shadman even drew obscene caricatures of real children a few years ago and was never convicted of anything.

I'm sure there are plenty of cartoons sexualising children in Japan, but those aren't really socially acceptable to watch there, though they are legal. There is a difference between legality and acceptance. People who watch children's cartoons as adults are not seen fondly in their society at all.

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My first ever very non-sexual material — before I really even understood what sexual feelings were — was diaper ads in my parents magazines. I got funny trembly feelings "down there" and all over about the fact that the babies in the ads were expected and allowed to go to the bathroom in their pants. And I wanted to know just what it felt like, and I wanted to do it too.

It was gross, embarrassing and taboo and also somehow totally irresistible to think about. The first few times I really did it I was trying to imagine being that age.

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On 1/1/2021 at 4:44 PM, Skirt Accident said:

That case in Virginia was over a decade ago, when American attitudes to sex were somewhat less liberal than they are now (online porn has become far more socially accepted since 2010 as religion has declined). The intervening years have seen the legalisation of gay marriage and an increase in cultural liberalism. I'd be very surprised to see anyone convicted for a few cartoons there now. The artist Shadman even drew obscene caricatures of real children a few years ago and was never convicted of anything.

I'm sure there are plenty of cartoons sexualising children in Japan, but those aren't really socially acceptable to watch there, though they are legal. There is a difference between legality and acceptance. People who watch children's cartoons as adults are not seen fondly in their society at all.

I would disagree on that, as shows like Dragon Ball sexualized underage girls like Bulma(Who was 16 in the original show) and yet those shows are very popular amongst both kids and adults.

Are you really saying that adults that watch kids shows are not seen as acceptable by "society"?  Even if they aren't watching kids shows to get off and are just watching them because they like them?  If that's what you are saying then you are dead wrong, the large Brony fanbase MLP has is proof enough of that.  Nothing at all wrong with adults watching kids shows, plenty of Youtubers like Mr Enter have built their entire careers on this and they aren't mocked by "society" for that.  

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