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Retro pants wetting magazine


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6 hours ago, Kudamono said:

I came across a remarkable piece of omorashi history recently: a British magazine called “Cascade” dealing with pants wetting in addition to other pee related fetishes.

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It ran from March 1991 until December 2001, and apparently included some otherwise unattainable reprints from underground publications in the 1970s and 1980s when this stuff was very much outside the mainstream in the west.  
 

Although Bataille was writing about pants wetting fetish stuff as early as the 1920s, this is definitely the earliest non-Japanese example I have seen of an organized subculture for people who pee themselves. I wonder if there was an influence from Japanese Pink Films with omorashi scenes, or if it arose independently?

https://www.cascademag.com/cascade-back-issues/index.htm

I highly doubt these people would have seen Japanese porn back then. It's probably an independent manifestation of a common fetish. I don't think the word omorashi was used then.

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Hi I subscribed to Cascade I even wrote a few little bits for it with my late wife, it was run by a British couple Steve and Debbie if memory  is correct. I have to say it was very underground and had to be back then this couple were raided by the UK police a couple of times for breaking the UK porn laws back then over this mag. There again from memory so it was a bit of a worry as I'm sure the police got a list and addresses of all the subscribers but naturally  they could not follow up on all those people in the end they moved over to Spain to be out of the way of the UK police and carried on with the mag. Yes, it did have a lot of the old Fiesta and Forum mag stories re-posted in it. I use to post my sub money off in cash I remember single women got it free you had to prove you were a single woman mind not sure how that worked we were always happy to pay the subs if I remember right I think it was about £25 for four small printed editions over the year and a bumper edition at Christmas time often. Then in  a few short years later the Internet  came I went on line in 1997 and well that kind of blew away the need for such underground mags. Yes, they did have a website as well but it seems other wetting and like wise this related fetish of ours other websites soon became much more popular and in just a few short years there was so much more out there on this new Internet and like I say the need for such a mag had gone. But I do very fondle remember Cascade! At the time it seemed amazing to read and be with like minded people even in the shape of this little home printed mag! So a big thank you to Steve & Debbie of Cascade if your still out there. Happy days I do still have all my old copies as well. Kev.  

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I was maybe not quite old enough, legally, for such material when I first got online in the 1990's, but I quickly became aware of both Wetset and Cascade magazines.  Though I never subscribed too either one, the impression I got from message boards was that Wetset was a tamer magazine, more focused just on wetting.  Cascade was more graphic and underground, though it had wetting content, it also had golden showers and pee drinking.  I also heard that they would rip content from other sources, making it a kind of underground, pirate publication.

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2 hours ago, TVGuy said:

I was maybe not quite old enough, legally, for such material when I first got online in the 1990's, but I quickly became aware of both Wetset and Cascade magazines.  Though I never subscribed too either one, the impression I got from message boards was that Wetset was a tamer magazine, more focused just on wetting.  Cascade was more graphic and underground, though it had wetting content, it also had golden showers and pee drinking.  I also heard that they would rip content from other sources, making it a kind of underground, pirate publication.

Was the content distributed online?

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I remember seeing some of their content online, on which sites I cannot remember. On sites current at the time such as Thomas' Water Resources and maybe also patches and Wayne's World, people would post all kinds of stuff. Photos and stories from old magazines like Cascade and Sex Bizarre. I don't know if Cascade had their own site but I think they did for awhile. I do have some old pics from Sex Bizarre, some wettings from there I still enjoy seeing.

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11 hours ago, Skirt Accident said:

Was the content distributed online?

Not that I know of.  And again, I had no first hand experience with them.  This is only what I remember my impression being of them based on what I had gathered from the message boards of the time.

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Hi all again. No there again from memory there was not a lot of content out of the small printed mags ever put on there website. I remember to start with they seem to sell back copies that you could order from the website and have the mag posted to you. But soon on the Internet there were far better sites with so much more for free and very soon the Internet made these mags seem very tame indeed but sure they have a place in the history of our fetish. I mean this couple took  a huge  risk and printed these like I say when UK porn laws thought this to be a very taboo subject in printed matter. I also have to say there were a lot of original stories written for these little mags so it was by no means all material from other sources in there day they were great and just that feeling to know there were others out there that shared all this and wanted to share and write about it. Kev. PS.  Some of my old Cascade mags!

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This got me thinking re these old 1990s Cascade mags! To when I first saw anything pee related in print here in the UK! And I reckon it would be around the very late 1970s or the early 1980s As I have said before my dad died when I was two so my mum's brother became more like a dad to me he took over running my grandfathers small Scottish Castle and a large farm. I would spend a lot of holidays up there. I even worked for a time on the farm in one room he had like a man cave with a full-size slate bed Snooker  / Billards table plus there was always a few men's mags about the place he was a "tit man", and he married a fine-looking Scottish lassy with enormous tits who was so kind and lovely. Still, I digress it was lovely to go in there and sit on the large old leather chesterfield sofas or chairs and read these mags such as Fiesta or Forum. I well remember one of the first reader's letters I read in the UK soft Porn mag "Fiesta" of this early maybe late 1970s or very early 1980s period was about a couple that went to The Ideal Home Exhibition at Olympia in London.
 
They had a drink at one of the bars a short. About 20 mins, later this young woman needed a pee, but by this time the place was packed, they found some toilets. But, there was a queue of about 30 women waiting by this time this young woman in this readers letter described how she felt a tiny trickle of pee leak out and run down her legs she had stockings and a short skirt on! Her husband said they would walk around to find some loo's with a shorter queue by now the place was packed being a weekend and they came to a lock jam of people where the isle walkway narrowed. She whispered to husband "Darling, I can feel my wee coming, and I can't stop it!" She gripped her husband hand tight and her pee just cascaded down her legs in uncountable spurts the crowded lock jam began to move on she glanced back to see a pool of her pee on the floor which just looked like a spilt drink. The place was so packed they did know more than find an exit and headed home on the tube The whole incident had so turned her hubby on she wrote, and as soon they were in the door of the flat they had the wildest sex they had ever had him being so turned on to what had happened. That was my first pee related story that I do remember reading later on these were reprinted in this Cascade mag. And I later read on the Internet that all these readers letters were written in house by people that worked on these mags. I do feel way back then there were testing the water so to speak re this whole pee thing, and if it was right about these being written in house, there must have been someone on the staff that had a pee fetish for sure as many more letters were printed all again very tame of what we have today. The younger group of pee lovers do not realise how lucky they are to have sites like this and so much on are fetish out there and the click of a mouse and by just pressing a few keys. Way back then I would never imagine that in 40 years this whole pee related sexual has got more open. How far can it go in the next 40 years I wonder? or is that as far as it can go! Well, nothing ever stands still does it.       Best wishes to everyone Kev.

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This is Steve, the half of Steve & Deb who used to compile & produce Cascade.
I've just been reading all the comments and wow! what good memories you all have!
All of our latest happenings like persecution, court cases, moves to friendlier climes etc. were all in the preface of the current magazine at the time.
The Cascade magazine was a spin off from our 0898 premium rate pee story lines and there was a message facility on the lines where the punters could give us feedback etc., we used to get messages from people who were after making contact with other pee minded folks and were they any magazines dedicated to wetting and peeing.
We used to advertise our phone lines regularly in Forum magazine, (they were an affordable 40p a minute then), so Deb & I thought about it, went to see our solicitor and told his that we were considering putting out an Adult fetish mag. available only to subscribers, he gave us the go ahead, so we crudely constructed a first edition which was glued onto A4 paper and photocopied, then neatly folded and sent out - and even though it was rough, the content was right on target, hence the birth of Cascade.
You're right though Kev, Cascade's success was short lived as somebody had complained and our home was raided, but I managed to hide the floppy disc with all the subscriber's details on, so when most of our home was carted away in police vans, we wasted no time in writing (by hand as our trusty Amstrad had been taken) to everyone.
That happened twice for the magazine and once for my recording studio in the garden, they were knife-edged times we were living, but we firmly believed that we were doing no harm, so we carried on and yes, in '93 when we had our first raid, we rented the house out, packed our Cascade essentials in the trailer and headed off for the Costa Del Sol and spent a year there, still producing the magazine and making our pee story tapes (yes, tapes). The year there was bliss, just us, the dog, our 2 cats and our photocopier! 
It's so nice that we're remembered by you guys, it was a pleasure to make the mag., but then, when the end of the nineties came along with dial-up internet, as quite rightly pointed out above, there was no longer any need for Cascade. It had filled a gap, but now it needed putting out to grass.
Nearly all of the 10 years of mags are available in downloadable .pdf (there's about 40 I think), but there's no glossy colour, just mono.
It's been a pleasure, Steve @ Cascade.
Mags index is here: 
https://www.cascademag.com/cascade-back-issues/

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Steve, I once got to see part of a couple of issues. Being in the photocopying job world at Kinko's in the mid 1980's on , Cascade was something that landed in my lap when a customer asked me to photocopy a trunk of documents. He was a professor whose specialty was freedom of speech and censorship.

Part of two issues (I think) were lodged in the bottom of the trunk. I kept copies of the pages and had them hidden in my Norton Anthology of English Literature for (literally) decades. 

Thanks to you and Deb. 

 

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Lovely to here from you Steve and to hear you are well. Amazing what you both had to go thorough and put up with back then. And I for one owe you both a great debt in the risk you all took producing the Cascade mag! I know myself and my late wife just so loved it when our copies of the mag dropped thought the letter box then there was this great feeling of we were not alone in this or the fact that we were freaks for liking this whole fetish and turn on so thanks again for what you did back them glad it seems I remembered it all about right to from back then. In some small ways its a shame the Internet came so hence lessened the need for such a mag It was so good to have something tangible in your hand to hold and read about this whole pee scene fetish. Thanks Kev.   

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16 hours ago, tennyson said:

Steve, I once got to see part of a couple of issues. Being in the photocopying job world at Kinko's in the mid 1980's on , Cascade was something that landed in my lap when a customer asked me to photocopy a trunk of documents. He was a professor whose specialty was freedom of speech and censorship.

Part of two issues (I think) were lodged in the bottom of the trunk. I kept copies of the pages and had them hidden in my Norton Anthology of English Literature for (literally) decades. 

Thanks to you and Deb. 

 

Thank you Tennyson

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On 9/20/2020 at 10:07 AM, PissFun said:

This is Steve, the half of Steve & Deb who used to compile & produce Cascade.

Wow, it is really neat to have you chime in here, Steve. It's pretty wild what you guys went through, and impressive that you kept going in spite of it all. Given that all there was before you started putting out Cascade was a letter here and there in Fiesta or Forum, it seems like you were the true originators of what would become the English speaking omorashi community.

I'm curious: when you started out, were you and Deb aware of the fact that there was an existing pants wetting fetish scene in Japan, or did that influence merge into the community later?  Looking at old issues of Wet Set, there are already some reproductions of photos from Japanese magazines making their way in from the beginning, with a full article on the Japanese wetting/diaper scene in issue 12.

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On 9/21/2020 at 4:19 PM, Kudamono said:

Wow, it is really neat to have you chime in here, Steve. It's pretty wild what you guys went through, and impressive that you kept going in spite of it all. Given that all there was before you started putting out Cascade was a letter here and there in Fiesta or Forum, it seems like you were the true originators of what would become the English speaking omorashi community.

I'm curious: when you started out, were you and Deb aware of the fact that there was an existing pants wetting fetish scene in Japan, or did that influence merge into the community later?  Looking at old issues of Wet Set, there are already some reproductions of photos from Japanese magazines making their way in from the beginning, with a full article on the Japanese wetting/diaper scene in issue 12.

We had no idea of the pee fetish in other parts of the world, when we started Cascade we knew there would be a demand, but we only advertised in Forum, mainly because we knew the advertising team there because of the Premium rate phone lines we had. Wet Set were way ahead of us and we offered no competition, only friendship as they delt in pooping and we didn't. 
Yes, we went thru' a lot Deb & I, but we enjoyed giving the service and when you look at Cascade - blimey, there's hardly anything visual to be jailed for is there?
Plus we always took a copy pre-print to our Solicitor to get his OK. I must admit, he was shocked when we were prosecuted, but we were.
As you've probably read, Deb & I are no longer together, our split was nothing to do with Cascade and was quite amicable, but I must say that she was the best woman who's ever been in my life, she was complete gold.

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On 9/21/2020 at 8:07 AM, kevy19 said:

Lovely to here from you Steve and to hear you are well. Amazing what you both had to go thorough and put up with back then. And I for one owe you both a great debt in the risk you all took producing the Cascade mag! I know myself and my late wife just so loved it when our copies of the mag dropped thought the letter box then there was this great feeling of we were not alone in this or the fact that we were freaks for liking this whole fetish and turn on so thanks again for what you did back them glad it seems I remembered it all about right to from back then. In some small ways its a shame the Internet came so hence lessened the need for such a mag It was so good to have something tangible in your hand to hold and read about this whole pee scene fetish. Thanks Kev.   

Yes Kev, we brought a ray of sunshine to hundreds of 'likeminded' folks, but it was 20 years ago and if it were started up now, it wouldn't stand an earthly, but because there was no Internet to speak of, Cascade filled a niche for a decade. We felt a bit lost when there were no bundles of letters to go thru' and no mag to compile,  but there was the website, so we got busy on that and of course, the ten years of old Cascades that people still wanted copies of - and they still do, but they're in .pdf now.
I'm sorry that your wife (Bekky?) passed, that must've been awful for you and although some water has gone under the bridge, the beautiful memories are still as real.

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I just wanted to chime in and say that this is a fascinating thread. Being a millennial, access to the internet (and internet porn) has always been a fact of life for me, so reading about these old magazines and the roles they played in the history of our community is like a window into a whole different world.

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On 11/14/2020 at 11:43 PM, PissFun said:

Yes Kev, we brought a ray of sunshine to hundreds of 'likeminded' folks, but it was 20 years ago and if it were started up now, it wouldn't stand an earthly, but because there was no Internet to speak of, Cascade filled a niche for a decade. We felt a bit lost when there were no bundles of letters to go thru' and no mag to compile,  but there was the website, so we got busy on that and of course, the ten years of old Cascades that people still wanted copies of - and they still do, but they're in .pdf now.
I'm sorry that your wife (Bekky?) passed, that must've been awful for you and although some water has gone under the bridge, the beautiful memories are still as real.

Many thanks, so lovely to hear from you after all these years have passed and all that water or should that be pee has passed under the bridge or through the panties say, so to speak and how things have moved on. Its funny I had a friend who in 1995 /96 he was into tech stuff back then he kept telling me the Internet was going to be a sensation and how I should get on line ASAP I just kept saying O sure kind of thing! But in the end he convinced me and we went on line in 1997 and way back then you had the feeling that this was going to turn into something big!  As it has. Yep I was truly dumb struck and devastated beyond belief  when I lost my beautiful wife to cancer who was so young in today's ages in fact for a couple of years I almost gave up on life it was so hard but you have to move on and in our super long relationship and our wonderful married life we had so much  fun and respect and deep love for each other. I can honestly say we never had a fight or big fall out sure we sometimes made each other a tad grumpy but are rule was we made up before we got in to bed.  To have loved like this I realized soon on becoming single again that some people go right through there life and never experiences this deep love for someone and the deep love back from that person. And sharing so much even are love of all things pee. Thanks such happy fond memories of Cascade for me like I say it made us feel not alone in the big  wide world out there way before the Internet came on line thank you. Kev.

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On 11/15/2020 at 4:53 AM, kamina said:

I just wanted to chime in and say that this is a fascinating thread. Being a millennial, access to the internet (and internet porn) has always been a fact of life for me, so reading about these old magazines and the roles they played in the history of our community is like a window into a whole different world.

Tidying the bedroom cupboard the other day I was kind of thinking that in reverse as I looked through a box of catalogues from the mid '80s to mid '90s - mostly bondage, rubber, PVC and incontinence such as Fetters, Cocoon, Honour, Regulation, Mediquip - and maybe ten issues of Skin Two.  The business model was usually a glossy (albeit in the early years mostly monochrome) catalogue without prices and separate price lists and order forms so they could be updated during the life of the catalogue.  Catalogues were usually £5 by mail order with a voucher to redeem the catalogue price with your first order although many had shops or some other physical presence.  There was even one from Affordable Leather if anyone remembers Graham, the London Fetish Fair and the White Horse munch the night before?

And then in about 1995 the internet arrived in the UK and it all went online.  Initially the catalogues were simply turned into webpages and ordering was by phone but by the turn of the century most companies had secure web shops.  Five years that changed beyond recognition an industry that hadn't seen change either before or since.

Has that box of dead trees become collectors editions now I wonder?

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On 9/7/2020 at 8:28 PM, WetDave said:

How did I not know that this existed in the 90’s? I’m annoyed now, I could have been reading and enjoying it.

I have a bunch of them - all hidden away in an old work bag of all things!! 😊 They really need a new, appreciative home, so if you really want a read? 😊 

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