Celestia 90 Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 Stop sharing Freakarts videos or she will stop creating content. In the second post she says that she will upload older videos if she finds some on her PC. But if they get shared as well, she won't produce more content. After Shaiden Rouge (ferris wheel wetting), Freakart would be the second German model to stop wetting content because of content piracy (and it's her only content). I wrote some admin about that issue last weekend but nothing happened, so I post it here as well. jolano1, MasterP, rachelkirwan and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment
MasterP 710 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I had a friend a friend that quit on C4s and mygirlfund because of this. Link to comment
rachelkirwan 13,627 Posted May 5, 2020 🌟 OmoOrg VIP Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 Thanks, we need to be a responsible community. Kei, JBman123, Celestia and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment
Calum46 32 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 She will just stop making videos, just like women making videos on Clips4Sale sites. I've pointed out an example of this in another thread. There's no need for it. scinosensation and Kei 2 Link to comment
slovenc79 158 Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) firstly, before you slam that downvote - i don't upload or reupload copyrighted content. i do strongly support every good quality producer i respect and even try to help their business if i can, by either buying or promoting and spreading the word. as goes for the producers i don't find interesting - i don't bother watching their stuff even if i find it for free. i don't shared freakart's vids, i won't and i don't care if i see any. now to the point: so freakart is making a fuss about how she can't control who sees her videos and it somehow makes it uncomfortable for her - but she doesn't mind anyone with a few bucks can see her videos? no, it's not about you "can't be yourself", honey, it's just about money being the only motivation. but the problem is she's not the only one. there are loads of 20-something chicks who want easy money and decide they'll try to get some by making vids without actual fetish or real desire to do that, and you can tell that from the videos - no passion whatsoever, wettings are basic and repetitive, their excitement is fake. they totally ruined this fetish by only making it as a business oportunity to exploit (basically the whole fetish video (and art in general) industry has become shit because of these reasons - just look at some fetish clips from 90's or 00's, they are masterpieces of passion compared to this crap nowadays). so i really don't mind if these brats stop producing the vids. it's actually good - it makes more room and demand for those (very few) dedicated producers who actually put their hearts into it to make profit they deserve, because i much, MUCH rather see 1 good quality video full of genuine passion than 100 repetitive vids of random chicks who badly pretend they're into it just because someone offered them money. here is a fact: a good quality video producer who actually focuses on quality will ALWAYS have good profits, no matter how much piracy there is - some even see it more as gaining publicity than a nuisance. they make fans so loyal they get custom orders, and even donations and gifts. some of the best videos i've ever seen in my life were free, because the (amateur) producer was motivated by passion for the fetish and not money. sites like xtube in the years before they became paysites had some of the most amazing amateurs ever, and you can even find gems today. even i created my own videos and uploaded them there because it was an incredible joy to see some woman get turned on by it. sadly those days are over, it's all about money nowadays and the passion for the fetish is gone - all there is instead of it is worrying about what will sell and how much for. Edited May 5, 2020 by slovenc79 (see edit history) Peegangsta, Odin223, Amomonya and 10 others 10 3 Link to comment
TVGuy 10,658 Posted May 5, 2020 🌟 OmoOrg VIP Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 @slovenc79 I am sorry, but I disagree with many of the point you made. 3 hours ago, slovenc79 said: now to the point: so freakart is making a fuss about how she can't control who sees her videos and it somehow makes it uncomfortable for her - but she doesn't mind anyone with a few bucks can see her videos? no, it's not about you "can't be yourself", honey, it's just about money being the only motivation. You can't actually know what someone's inner thoughts or motivations are. You may suspect that it is all about money, but you don't actually know what she is thinking. She is saying that it isn't all about money, and she is the only one who knows for sure. At HD Wetting we are constantly on the look out for new models, and on a somewhat frequent basis I have been contacted by women who are interested in modeling for us, who say they legitimately enjoy wetting, but who are concerned about how many people could see their videos. They are comfortable with the idea that their videos may only bee seen by a few dozen paying customers, but not the idea that their content could be exposed to the wider internet. Many people do believe that having a paywall does limit the potential spread of content, especially people who have limited experience in this field. I have no trouble believing that a small, independent producer is uncomfortable with the idea of so many people seeing her videos and not being able to control it. Expressing one's sexuality to an audience is an incredibly brave, and personal, thing. Potential models that I interact with frequently express the desire to have some control over who is able to see their content, so I can easily believe that is the case here. And no one, unless they have psychic powers and can read her mind, really know anything different. 3 hours ago, slovenc79 said: but the problem is she's not the only one. there are loads of 20-something chicks who want easy money and decide they'll try to get some by making vids without actual fetish or real desire to do that, and you can tell that from the videos - no passion whatsoever, wettings are basic and repetitive, their excitement is fake. they totally ruined this fetish by only making it as a business oportunity to exploit (basically the whole fetish video (and art in general) industry has become shit because of these reasons - just look at some fetish clips from 90's or 00's, they are masterpieces of passion compared to this crap nowadays). I'm not sure what this has to do with a content creator wanting to have control over their content, but I can tell you that this isn't easy money, at all. In addition to the effort that goes into making videos, which admittedly technology has greatly simplified, there is still quite a bit of work involved with getting that content in front of potential buyers and marketing it so people will actually buy it. A successful independent content producer is having to constantly work to connect with their customers; plus they have to manage their own accounting, content production schedules, customer support, and everything else. Even being close to successful at this takes tremendous work and effort, it is far from easy money. Also, a lot of people simply are not good on camera. More than once we have tried to do shoots at HD Wetting with girls who had no modeling or acting experience, but who were very into the fetish. However, they were so incredibly awkward on camera that you would never believe they actually were into it at all. People change once the camera is on and is recording. We had another model in the early days of HD Wetting who was very popular. She wasn't into pee or wetting at all, finding the whole thing kinda gross and weird. She just didn't get it. But she had a background in theater and modeling, and watching her scenes, she totally could sell that she was thoroughly enjoying every bit of it. The idea that you can tell from their on-camera performance if they are really enjoying it or not is a fantasy. Anyone who has actually done this kind of work knows that. You cited some of the fetish clips from the 90's and 00's as positive examples of kink content- One thing that was different then was the barrier to entry. The technical requirements to record, edit, and distribute video at that time were much greater. In addition to a greater monetary investment in equipment that was required, there also was a base level of technical experience necessary to make it all happen. As a result, independent model/producers doing their own thing wasn't really a possibility. Creating a video required at least a producer and a model, usually a full crew with a producer/director, camera person, sound person, and editor. This allowed for real time monitoring and critique of the scenes as they were filmed, so it is no wonder that the content was better, as so much more went into it. 3 hours ago, slovenc79 said: some of the best videos i've ever seen in my life were free, because the (amateur) producer was motivated by passion for the fetish and not money. sites like xtube in the years before they became paysites had some of the most amazing amateurs ever, and you can even find gems today. even i created my own videos and uploaded them there because it was an incredible joy to see some woman get turned on by it. sadly those days are over, it's all about money nowadays and the passion for the fetish is gone - all there is instead of it is worrying about what will sell and how much for. But you also said some of the best stuff was from the 90's and 00's, where there was much more money involved and it was much more of a business. You say things have declined today, but it is much easier for real amateurs to produce and distribute videos. What it seems like you are dancing around is the concept of authenticity in videos. You are noticing that a lot of more amateur produced content that is available now lacks a feeling of authenticity- In a professional production, fake authenticity can be manufactured, and you had more of this early on when you had more skilled and professional people working to make videos. The ironic thing is that now that there are more real amateur videos out there, the amateur creators do not understand the language of motion pictures and do not understand how to manufacture authenticity in their products. So even though it is actually more real, it feels more fake. It is not all about money now. In fact, it has never been less about money. Everyone involved in this kind of content is making less money than ever before. For a solo producer, even a basic masturbation video will earn more than a wetting scene. Passion and money are not mutually exclusive. It is completely understandable that someone who enjoys wetting might want to make a few extra bucks by selling a video of themselves doing it. That doesn't mean they are into wetting any less, it just means they want to make a bit of money. 3 hours ago, slovenc79 said: i do strongly support every good quality producer i respect and even try to help their business if i can, by either buying or promoting and spreading the word You say this, but then the language you use doesn't feel very respectful, at least not to the performers in the videos. Or do only videos that rise to a certain standard get your respect, while you disregard other models? In your post you call freakart "honey," you tell her that her content, "isn't about you," and you tell her she is "making a fuss." That kind of language sounds demeaning and like you do not respect her or her desire to be in control of her own content. You go on to refer to other independent content creators as "loads of 20-something chicks who want easy money," completely failing to acknowledge the amount of work, effort, investment, or bravery that goes into doing something like this, and then later lump them altogether as "brats." Considering how little money there is in wetting videos, and the potential damage to their reputation, I have a hard time believing any of them are doing it just for easy money. Especially since I know that they could be making more in other kinds of content. They may lack the technical skills, acting education, and experience required to manufacture authenticity, but I don't think that justifies the level of disrespect illustrated here. Nor do I think that it justifies denying a content creator control over her own content, regardless if her motives are monetary or not. edds, omorashi lover, Kei and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment
JMatthews1995 1,030 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Wow. I have just looked through her videos. Some of those look absolutely brilliant! It's a shame I am so worried about paying for stuff online like this. I never trust stuff and I get worried that if I do enjoy one I'll end up buying tonnes and have no money left! 🤣🤣 Link to comment
BladderLad 1,464 Posted May 5, 2020 ✨ Legendary Member Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 hours ago, slovenc79 said: firstly, before you slam that downvote - i don't upload or reupload copyrighted content. i do strongly support every good quality producer i respect and even try to help their business if i can, by either buying or promoting and spreading the word. as goes for the producers i don't find interesting - i don't bother watching their stuff even if i find it for free. i don't shared freakart's vids, i won't and i don't care if i see any. now to the point: so freakart is making a fuss about how she can't control who sees her videos and it somehow makes it uncomfortable for her - but she doesn't mind anyone with a few bucks can see her videos? no, it's not about you "can't be yourself", honey, it's just about money being the only motivation. but the problem is she's not the only one. there are loads of 20-something chicks who want easy money and decide they'll try to get some by making vids without actual fetish or real desire to do that, and you can tell that from the videos - no passion whatsoever, wettings are basic and repetitive, their excitement is fake. they totally ruined this fetish by only making it as a business oportunity to exploit (basically the whole fetish video (and art in general) industry has become shit because of these reasons - just look at some fetish clips from 90's or 00's, they are masterpieces of passion compared to this crap nowadays). so i really don't mind if these brats stop producing the vids. it's actually good - it makes more room and demand for those (very few) dedicated producers who actually put their hearts into it to make profit they deserve, because i much, MUCH rather see 1 good quality video full of genuine passion than 100 repetitive vids of random chicks who badly pretend they're into it just because someone offered them money. here is a fact: a good quality video producer who actually focuses on quality will ALWAYS have good profits, no matter how much piracy there is - some even see it more as gaining publicity than a nuisance. they make fans so loyal they get custom orders, and even donations and gifts. some of the best videos i've ever seen in my life were free, because the (amateur) producer was motivated by passion for the fetish and not money. sites like xtube in the years before they became paysites had some of the most amazing amateurs ever, and you can even find gems today. even i created my own videos and uploaded them there because it was an incredible joy to see some woman get turned on by it. sadly those days are over, it's all about money nowadays and the passion for the fetish is gone - all there is instead of it is worrying about what will sell and how much for. Couldn’t agree with you more- such a shame that so many people are only motivated by money! And agree that Xtube a few years ago had some real quality content compared to today- let’s all try get back tocommunity values where people’s appreciation is the real value 🙂 SpaceWonderer, ronmeyer, slovenc79 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
Kyuu 6,092 Posted May 5, 2020 👑 Administrator Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 The producer in question here has reached out to us and filed an official takedown request, which we have honored. The producer has additionally been added to our sites Do Not Post list, meaning works from this person should no longer be uploaded anywhere on the site going forward, https://www.omorashi.org/do-not-post-list/ Roze, Kei, PStain and 6 others 9 Link to comment
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