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How real are LoveWetting long videos? I can only dribble but videos never seem to have dribble

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I mean those long travel videos or games where they pee their pants but it’s like 20mins clip. Is it acting or genuine because whenever I do look holds I can only dribble a bit but never wet all at once whereas the video never shows dribble or is it because I am a guy (and hence stronger bladder control) or not desperate enough? 

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Someone asked a very similar question regarding Bound2Burst not long ago.  I feel my reply to that post is applicable here-
 

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I can tell you, from my experience in making videos for HD Wetting, that waiting until the model actually looses control involuntarily often results in a pretty poor video.  In the past I have tried doing this at HD Wetting, but the issue is that you often miss the start of the actual wetting, if not the majority of it.  The camera has to be set up, in focus, recording, and you need adequate lighting.  When you are just waiting for a model to have an accident, it can be somewhat unexpected and often things aren't quite perfect to capture the start of it.

Again, I want to re-iterate that I don't have any actual information about how bound2burst does it specifically.  However, I would imagine that if a producer wanted to get very close to a real accident on video, without waiting until they risk missing the "money shot," they could let the model grow legitimately desperate to pee.  You could wait until she is absolutely bursting and having real difficulty holding it.  At that point you could set up the shot for the wetting, then allow it to her to give in.  It isn't a true involuntary loss of control, she is allowing it to happen, but she is truly desperate and on the verge of an accident anyway.

 

The point being that even if the desperation is real, the actual moment of wetting likely would be somewhat intentional, in order to insure that it is captured on camera.  So there is no dribbling shown because they are intentionally letting go at a certain point, when they know the camera will capture it.

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2 hours ago, TVGuy said:

Someone asked a very similar question regarding Bound2Burst not long ago.  I feel my reply to that post is applicable here-
 

The point being that even if the desperation is real, the actual moment of wetting likely would be somewhat intentional, in order to insure that it is captured on camera.  So there is no dribbling shown because they are intentionally letting go at a certain point, when they know the camera will capture it.

I see. B2b seems acting but lovewetting seems real at the same time like how long the videos are and their facial expression. I guess it isn’t a girl thing to skip the dribble stage as that’s the closest I can get to full desperation. I do feel bad for the models though because sometimes they seem real desperate (unless it’s not acting). Sometimes love wetting has cash prizes for making it but I am not sure if that is real

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14 minutes ago, Angusburger said:

I see. B2b seems acting but lovewetting seems real at the same time like how long the videos are and their facial expression. I guess it isn’t a girl thing to skip the dribble stage as that’s the closest I can get to full desperation. I do feel bad for the models though because sometimes they seem real desperate (unless it’s not acting). Sometimes love wetting has cash prizes for making it but I am not sure if that is real

LoveWetting also appears to shoot videos with girls from much more economically depressed countries.  The amount they have to spend on talent, versus how much U.S. or Western European based sites have to spend on talent, is much, much lower.  While sites like my own HD Wetting, and Bound2Burst, have no choice but to pay hundreds of dollars in day rates for models, making a single day of shooting soar in costs into thousands of dollars, LoveWetting is able to pay day rates that are small fractions of what we have to.  As a result, LoveWetting can produce far fewer scenes from a single day shoot and still break even.  This how they are able to produce longer scenes, and push their models to be more desperate.

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You should consider doing business in Ukraine. Sounds a lot more economically viable for a good quality product.

It's worth noting as well that there are documented real accidents like this one where the woman bursts and pisses herself in torrents. Slow leaking happens sometimes, but not always. A staged video probably has an intentional release, but not necessarily.

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1 minute ago, PooSkirt said:

You should consider doing business in Ukraine. Sounds a lot more economically viable for a good quality product.

Haha... yeah, I think if a producer was looking to make content as cheaply as possible, travelling to a more depressed country where you could hire talent for a small fraction of the cost would make sense.

However, my goal with HD Wetting has always been to show real people who really enjoy wetting.  The girls of HD Wetting aren't desperate for money, and they aren't traditional porn stars.  They are someone you might encounter in your day-to-day life, someone you might be friends with.  This, I think, is what sets HD Wetting apart from other sites.  It isn't that HD Wetting is better or worse than the competition, we are just offering something a bit different- a sense of authenticity that comes from ordinary people enjoying their kink.  If I were to travel to foreign countries to take advantage of desperate economic situations of the models there, well, that would just be throwing out the window everything that I wanted to do with HD Wetting and everything that makes it unique.

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There are women in Ukraine who enjoy wetting themselves too. It's interesting that you mention authenticity; there's certainly some authenticity to someone wetting who does it for fun, but there's also a lot of authenticity to women having to hold it much, much longer until they burst, which is easier with cheaper costs. I know genuine accidents have happened a few times while you were filming, but there would probably be more of them if production costs were lower.

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5 hours ago, PooSkirt said:

There are women in Ukraine who enjoy wetting themselves too. It's interesting that you mention authenticity; there's certainly some authenticity to someone wetting who does it for fun, but there's also a lot of authenticity to women having to hold it much, much longer until they burst, which is easier with cheaper costs. I know genuine accidents have happened a few times while you were filming, but there would probably be more of them if production costs were lower.

I completely agree with you.  And I did not mean to suggest that other sites, or other producers, create content that lacks authenticity.  Only that it can be hard to capture that sense of realism and authenticity when you are employing models from an agency or hiring girls who are just doing it for the money.  While I am sure that there are indeed girls in Ukraine who enjoy wetting, I am not confident in my ability to travel to a foreign country for a limited period of time and be able to successfully find those girls and film with them. 

Finding that right mix of talent, personality, enjoyment of wetting, and willingness to go on camera has been plenty difficult here in the U.S. when I've spent years trying to recruit such models.  The idea that I could fly to Ukraine and do it right away seems unlikely.  If I were to seriously attempt this, there would also be several legal concerns I would have to address with producing adult content overseas.

You also mentioned that it would be authentic to have a woman simply hold it until she bursts.  If you have real desperation and a real accident, then the authenticity part comes somewhat easy.  I do take your point here.  However, with HD Wetting I have always felt that I couldn't just focus on desperation and wetting accidents.  There were already other, bigger producers out there doing that and I felt that if I just did the same thing that there would be no reason for anyone to join my site instead of the myriad of others.

To set HD Wetting apart, and to offer something that was actually different than other sites, I wanted to focus on showing the enjoyment of the girls who were participating in the activities.  Instead of the audience being voyeurs witnessing desperation and accidents, HD Wetting viewers would be guests invited in by the girls to share their intimate kinks and experiences with them.

Now, coming from a background in professional production, I do believe at times I have put too much of an emphasis on production quality over creating real desperate situations.  Currently, I am trying to correct this.  I'm trying to create more real scenes of dire desperation by cutting out production costs and taking a simpler, more amateur approach to production.  Working with one girl at a time, and no production crew, lowers the cost of a day shoot significantly, allowing me to get away with far fewer scenes.  This will allow us to focus just on real desperation, and the resulting consequences, without having to pack nearly as many total scenes into the day.  I'll still be doing the traditional high production quality shoots with multiple models as well, but the resulting scenes from the two kinds of shoots will be released in an alternating fashion, bringing in more real desperation.

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I don't really see the intimate aspect you describe as being mutually exclusive with real desperation and accidents. A woman could invite people to watch her genuinely fill to bursting and have an accident. Of course this isn't necessarily practical given the limitations you have, but a lot of amateur wetting videos combine intimacy with genuine accidents. Being able to shoot longer scenes should really help with this.

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I find this sort of conversation utterly fascinating. Personally, I don't care how "amateur" or professional it is, although that would influence the price I would be willing to pay. I'm the same as a lot of people, I just want something genuine, good to watch and preferably have the person speak English if they're gonna be talking. Of course though, it's important that models are properly compensated for their work, as there has to be a financial benefit to working with a studio compared to going freelance.

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On 2/16/2020 at 2:03 PM, PooSkirt said:

I don't really see the intimate aspect you describe as being mutually exclusive with real desperation and accidents. A woman could invite people to watch her genuinely fill to bursting and have an accident. Of course this isn't necessarily practical given the limitations you have, but a lot of amateur wetting videos combine intimacy with genuine accidents. Being able to shoot longer scenes should really help with this.

Indeed, in theory there is no mutual exclusivity between more intimate scenes and real desperation/accidents.  However, finding a person who can be authentic in front of the camera, who doesn't freeze up and get awkward when there is a camera and a microphone, and who is also enjoying what they are doing, and who is willing to let themselves be filmed and such scenes to be  posted online- That is somewhat rare.

It isn't all too difficult to find women willing to wet themselves in front of the camera, at least not as long as you are offering enough money.  However, the vast majority of these women are so unaccustomed to being filmed that they get really awkward and completely freeze up.  The result is scenes that are truly cringe worthy; in many ways they are just painful to watch.  You could still film authentic desperation and accidents with them, but they won't come across as enjoying themselves at all.  It will feel like being filmed is the very last thing they want to be doing, and for me that is just awkward to watch.

20 hours ago, lilscottishgal said:

I find this sort of conversation utterly fascinating. Personally, I don't care how "amateur" or professional it is, although that would influence the price I would be willing to pay. I'm the same as a lot of people, I just want something genuine, good to watch and preferably have the person speak English if they're gonna be talking. Of course though, it's important that models are properly compensated for their work, as there has to be a financial benefit to working with a studio compared to going freelance.

This kind of comment is actually very interesting to me... I frequently see people saying they don't care how "amateur" or "professional" a scene is, but then they complain about the amateur aspects of videos.  Which makes me think that they do care...

I can only conclude that what I, as a video producer, am referring to when I talk about professional production quality is different from what non-video people are talking about.  When I use the term professional here is what I mean-

  • The subject of the video is in focus
  • The camera isn't wildly swinging around, bouncing, or twisting, making it impossible to see what is going on
  • The subject of the video isn't too dark or way over exposed
  • Camera motion and editing isn't jarring or distracting
  • You can clearly hear the video, at a consistent volume, without super loud background noise
  • The subject of the video doesn't appear awkward, lost, or like they don't know what to do or like they don't want to be there

I have seen people say they prefer amateur videos, but then those same people complain when a video is presented to them that is out of focus, has horrendous camera motion, exposure problems, jarring edits, or bad audio.

My hypothesis is that to many people, in referring to adult videos, the word "professional" is synonymous with "inauthentic."  Professional means it was produced, which means it was created by professionals, which means it is synthetic, fake, not-real.  Thus amateur, being opposed to professional, means that it is real and authentic.  I think when people say they prefer amateur videos, they are really saying that they prefer what they are seeing in the video to be authentic, not a synthetic creation of unknown creative minds behind the scenes.

This, of course, is a challenge for the typical studio way of content producing, where scenes are planned in advanced and on-camera talent is hired to play out those scenes.  But realizing this is why, at HD Wetting, we are trying to reinvent how we do videos; we are trying to take a look at what we can do that is truly authentic and focusing on that instead of completely synthetic scenarios with predetermined outcomes.

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Once again, TVGuy nails it. 

The main reason I dislike Japanese omorashi and messing is that the girls usually don't like it and their facial expressions make that crystal clear. Same with a Caucasian girl who enjoyed what was evidently fake poo, but screwed up her face in disgust when the man dropped the real thing on to her.

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21 hours ago, TVGuy said:

Indeed, in theory there is no mutual exclusivity between more intimate scenes and real desperation/accidents.  However, finding a person who can be authentic in front of the camera, who doesn't freeze up and get awkward when there is a camera and a microphone, and who is also enjoying what they are doing, and who is willing to let themselves be filmed and such scenes to be  posted online- That is somewhat rare.

It isn't all too difficult to find women willing to wet themselves in front of the camera, at least not as long as you are offering enough money.  However, the vast majority of these women are so unaccustomed to being filmed that they get really awkward and completely freeze up.  The result is scenes that are truly cringe worthy; in many ways they are just painful to watch.  You could still film authentic desperation and accidents with them, but they won't come across as enjoying themselves at all.  It will feel like being filmed is the very last thing they want to be doing, and for me that is just awkward to watch.

This kind of comment is actually very interesting to me... I frequently see people saying they don't care how "amateur" or "professional" a scene is, but then they complain about the amateur aspects of videos.  Which makes me think that they do care...

I can only conclude that what I, as a video producer, am referring to when I talk about professional production quality is different from what non-video people are talking about.  When I use the term professional here is what I mean-

  • The subject of the video is in focus
  • The camera isn't wildly swinging around, bouncing, or twisting, making it impossible to see what is going on
  • The subject of the video isn't too dark or way over exposed
  • Camera motion and editing isn't jarring or distracting
  • You can clearly hear the video, at a consistent volume, without super loud background noise
  • The subject of the video doesn't appear awkward, lost, or like they don't know what to do or like they don't want to be there

I have seen people say they prefer amateur videos, but then those same people complain when a video is presented to them that is out of focus, has horrendous camera motion, exposure problems, jarring edits, or bad audio.

My hypothesis is that to many people, in referring to adult videos, the word "professional" is synonymous with "inauthentic."  Professional means it was produced, which means it was created by professionals, which means it is synthetic, fake, not-real.  Thus amateur, being opposed to professional, means that it is real and authentic.  I think when people say they prefer amateur videos, they are really saying that they prefer what they are seeing in the video to be authentic, not a synthetic creation of unknown creative minds behind the scenes.

This, of course, is a challenge for the typical studio way of content producing, where scenes are planned in advanced and on-camera talent is hired to play out those scenes.  But realizing this is why, at HD Wetting, we are trying to reinvent how we do videos; we are trying to take a look at what we can do that is truly authentic and focusing on that instead of completely synthetic scenarios with predetermined outcomes.

Good point also i love the free video about conscent where lyra is tied. You should keep that one on the site for free everyday.

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