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This was a study I saw pop up a good while ago. You'll see that the data is skewed toward males answering, and it is mostly people volunteering to answer online. With that said, there is a lot of information we can get from this data, even if it doesn't directly apply to your question.

Urine (seen around a 7 on the taboo scale) is firmly on the male interest side. 

Another interesting thing, to me, is that a lot of the 'male interest' fetishes are more 'internet only' fetishes. Stuff you often can't express except through art (or by breaking the law). Necrophilia, pedophilia, vore, monster/aliens, transformations, etc. 

Fetishes are a very personal activity, so any information is going to be a 'this doesn't apply to everyone' situation. But if I had to guess, more men than women are into omorashi in particular as a fetish. If I had to get specific in my guesses, I would bet more men are into seeing someone desperate/having an accident by a wide margin, and that the numbers for people who get pleasure from holding it are closer between male and female. Watching desperation is a mix of voyeurism, domination, and sadism (the only one of those three that the survey has marked as female tilted is Sadism, and even then it is a lighter pink). Meanwhile holding itself is more masochism and/or letting someone else dominate you, which is a more female focused fetish. 

That said, it is thought that one of the main benefits of a sub/dom relationship is releasing control, which has a cathartic sensation. I know that personally, my SO is more into it for the submission than for the wetting, so I try to treat it more like that kind of relationship (Make sure they feel completely safe, check all equipment and aspects of the environment for no surprises, handle all aftermath and cleanup, listen to and adapt to all recommendations and requests, etc etc). 

But it would be great if there was a more focused study. Unfortunately, as a rather focused category under an already niche fetish (Omorashi usually falling under the 'urine play/watersports' umbrella as far as science is concerned), we may never get a study that is super specific. Of course, someone could use the internet communities to get some good data, I imagine.

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There's a good book that tackles, amongst other things, this kind of question.

I think looking at portion of pornhub searches that are about omo, grouped by gender, would give you a good first estimate, though there's some serious possible issues.  (Of course, you'd need a way to determine the gender of who is searching; I don't know if there are techniques for that.)  An alternative approach may be to look at how much people watch "male-appealing omo" vs "female-appealing" omo, though there are plenty of cans of worms there, too.

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the numbers for people who get pleasure from holding it are closer between male and female

I've said this before but if you look up things like "aroused by holding pee" you'll get tons of female results - and in fact a vast majority of female results - from sex advice columns and discussion fora and so on. It's even made the news in recent years (look up "peegasm") framed as if women were just discovering a new way to masturbate. 

 

So basically I think sexual interest in holding has got to be even or quite possibly slanted female - but "categorizing your fetishes and talking about them online and commissioning porn" skews male. I think what I see in places explicitly oriented toward fetish discussion is still less thoroughly male than for some other fetishes - back when Tumblr was still a place for this sort of thing it seemed to be capturing a bit of what it might look like for more women to become aware of "omorashi" as a term to describe a sexual interest - but it's still clearly majority male. 

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12 hours ago, Mister_P said:

the numbers for people who get pleasure from holding it are closer between male and female

I've said this before but if you look up things like "aroused by holding pee" you'll get tons of female results - and in fact a vast majority of female results - from sex advice columns and discussion fora and so on. It's even made the news in recent years (look up "peegasm") framed as if women were just discovering a new way to masturbate. 

 

So basically I think sexual interest in holding has got to be even or quite possibly slanted female - but "categorizing your fetishes and talking about them online and commissioning porn" skews male. I think what I see in places explicitly oriented toward fetish discussion is still less thoroughly male than for some other fetishes - back when Tumblr was still a place for this sort of thing it seemed to be capturing a bit of what it might look like for more women to become aware of "omorashi" as a term to describe a sexual interest - but it's still clearly majority male. 

Adding on to this, most women are submissive and most men are dominant (this is why rape fantasies are a common female fetish, but there aren't that many guys fantasising about a bad experience in the prison shower; I once knew a guy into femdom who confirmed this, complaining that few women wanted to dominate him). A lot of submissive women might be into the idea of having an embarrassing little accident in front of their aroused partner, but wouldn't actually seek out footage of other ladies weeing themselves. A guy in the dominant role, by contrast, would enjoy the kind of porn that gets shared here.

I agree that, based on evidence, there are far more women than men who enjoy holding their wee until they can't any longer and have an accident. I've seen various comments here from gay men complaining that there isn't much male wetting content out there, despite this being supposedly a mostly male fetish. It's just that those ladies personally enjoy omorashi but don't come to sites like this looking for porn.

@FUBOT, you're being very optimistic by saying paedophilia, necrophilia, and bestiality are in any way "internet only". There are literally thousands, if not millions, of people engaging in those depravities all over the world.

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I feel like statistics on this are always going to be skewed towards males. This is partially because males seem to be able to express their sexuality more openly and women are hardly taught that it's okay to masturbate (this is changing). I'm AFAB but am a trans man (I still think I count as female if we are just going by biological sex/socialization to be a woman), and exclusively date women. I've dated two females/AFABs interested in watersports/omo/piss play (I've only seriously dated four women and would never disclose my omo interests to a fuck buddy), so I can't really speak to the male side of it. What I've noticed about dating other AFABs is that I'm often the first person who has encouraged them to get a simple vibrator, that most women tend to have forgotten that they also have the ability to orgasm. It's like they've lived over two decades without really getting too many orgasms with a sexual partner. I've also noticed that "straight" women (women who only dated AMABs/males before me) seem to be less sexually liberated than queer women. As in, queer women generally have had more orgasms with partners, aren't as "blown away" when we sleep together by the fact that they get to enjoy the experience too (they are more used to this, even expect it, as they should).

I'm not sure if the sexual interest ratio would be the same or not, but I do think that the taboo factor of female pleasure, combined with female lower sex drive, combined with social conditioning (and females seeming to have more social...abilities? not sure how to word that), combined with the ability to sexually repress because of that lower sex drive and a stronger awareness of the implications of having a taboo fetish is going to make the data skew towards males on an extreme level. In reality, I don't think a predisposition towards enjoying piss play/omo/etc is that heavily male-dominated.

Obviously socialization isn't completely effective, as there are AFABs who learn to pleasure themselves at a young age (I learned that touching my junk felt good when I was like four, got in trouble for it, felt a lot of shame, but it felt too damn good to stop). I consider myself "hypersexual", so my sex drive overpowers the shame I have felt around sex. Maybe people with higher sex drives are more likely to engage in taboo activities because the rewards (in the moment) outweigh the taboo nature of whatever is being done. 

Long story short, I think observing piss play in other mammals might give a better indicator of the m/f ratio interested in piss play. There are so many limiting factors to those stats, so who truly knows? 

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1 hour ago, Helloworldiwea said:

I’d say a lot more towards male. You could always try looking through the site manually for people posting about themselves wetting and that may help with an estimate, but it would take a lot of work

It's difficult to gather true data from internet posts.  Because of the relative anonymity of the Net, there are people who are acting out a fantasy, including gender identification.  Once in a while I catch someone's pretense, but I don't make a big deal about it.

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6 hours ago, Helloworldiwea said:

I’d say a lot more towards male. You could always try looking through the site manually for people posting about themselves wetting and that may help with an estimate, but it would take a lot of work

Again, many females aren't active in the online kink community b/c males treat them like shit... which naturally skews any web presence towards the male side. 

In the real world kink events I've attended both sexes have been fairly equally represented.

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When I think of the people I've met IRL who wet themselves, I'd say the gender split was even. Males look at porn more, as we all know. Messing has very definitely been a male activity, though looking at the number of women shitting themselves on porn sites, I'm beginning to wonder. I also wonder how many are using non-fecal mixtures instead of the real thing.

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On 8/20/2019 at 7:32 PM, Spectator9 said:

It's difficult to gather true data from internet posts.  Because of the relative anonymity of the Net, there are people who are acting out a fantasy, including gender identification.  Once in a while I catch someone's pretense, but I don't make a big deal about it.

Sure, but the videos of wetting are overwhelmingly female, too. I generally assume that people here are lying out of their arses, but I still think most people who have accidents for fun are female.

16 hours ago, Dunney said:

When I think of the people I've met IRL who wet themselves, I'd say the gender split was even. Males look at porn more, as we all know. Messing has very definitely been a male activity, though looking at the number of women shitting themselves on porn sites, I'm beginning to wonder. I also wonder how many are using non-fecal mixtures instead of the real thing.

Honestly I don't think messing is necessarily that different. Watching a woman drop a massive load in her skirt (or a dude in his pants, for gay guys) is obviously mostly male, hence why forums aren't representative, but actually having an accident is a different story, especially since a poo accident could be part of a submission scenario.

As for using fake poo, that's probably pretty common in hardcore scat where people actually eat the stuff, but for a simple accident it's probably mostly genuine. It's easier to just take a dump in your skirt than fake it.

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As an additional point, I actually have a little interest in a fetish that's predominantly female according to the chart - non-consensual roleplay. I do fancy the idea of becoming so overwhelmed with lust at seeing a woman have an accident that I just start fucking her then and there, though I'd obviously arrange a safe word for her beforehand in case it got too much. I kind of feel like this is the inverse of how women perceive omorashi; I like the idea of being on the giving end of the rape fantasy, while many women might enjoy making their partner excited by having an accident even if they're not into anyone else having one.

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