CarmenCD 1,363 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 This application sounds really interesting. Anyone managed to get it running on the android phone? It would be so fun to have it on the phone when you go out, not only on the computer at home. Another question. When you drank the second glass of water, do you increase the slider to a total amount of liquid you consumed after your last toilet visit or you set the amount of liquid you drank at that moment and click "drink"? gottliebeln 1 Quote Link to comment
CarmenCD 1,363 Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 I finished the first run. Really hard. It let me pee once around 45 minutes and around 500mL on a counter, when I really needed to pee, but after that I was denied at least 5 times if not more (I forgot to count). I was really trying. I was dribbling and spurting from around 900mL up to something over 1300 mL, trying to seat, stand, squirming, crossing legs, holding myself, doing potty dance, but panties were becoming wetter and wetter and wet patch on my pants was also getting bigger and bigger until it was just too much for me and pee just started running in my pants and I couldn't stop it. What are you experiences with this app? AliasnameTO, rachelkirwan and squirmystud 3 Quote Link to comment
thelastpee 126 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 I downloaded it, but I'm still confused on how to work it. Do you drink the required amount and keep clicking "drink"? Quote Link to comment
CarmenCD 1,363 Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, thelastpee said: I downloaded it, but I'm still confused on how to work it. Do you drink the required amount and keep clicking "drink"? You set drink slider to the amount how much you just drank right now and click "drink". The program keeps track of previous drinks already. And default capacity is 500mL, but after you press "I can't hold it!" the program changes to use that amount as your new capacity, and it will remember next time you open the program. This will make the permission game have a more sane difficulty after your first time playing. Quote Link to comment
Gomi no Kami 0 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) I can't get the file app.exe to run what should i download to run it? Edited August 19, 2018 by Thatweirdguy (see edit history) Quote Link to comment
CarmenCD 1,363 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Anyone still use this app? I use it quite often. It's still fun and hard to hold it until I get permission to pee. Quote Link to comment
wetpantsboy 1,006 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I tried a few times but after the first time getting permission to pee I could never make it to the second time without wetting myself. I guess I drink too much tea! Quote Link to comment
cl0sure 2 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 This is pretty amazing. Bare bones but just seeing "You may not pee." right there is pretty exciting. I like watching the meter fill up as well. Quote Link to comment
imfac 4 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 @PERVasive I don't know if you're still lurking this thread, but after building your app it from source yesterday, I tested it for the first time today! I followed your instructions and waited 45 minutes without drinking anything, went pee, then started the program up. Since this was my first time using the program I decided to do a straight hold to set my bladder capacity. I went with a strict schedule of 100mL/15min, and had drank 1400mL when I first leaked, at which point I clicked "I can't hold it!" Based on that, the trainer's report for how much should've been in my bladder was roughly 1050mL. The amount I actually recorded, though, was... 1550mL. Whoops, I violated conservation of mass. This is especially strange since I thought I had started dehydrated, and the model should've overestimated the amount in me! Needless to say, I might need to tweak the bladder model for my own personal use. I'm familiar with Python and I'd be willing to take a crack at your code and modify it. Would you be willing to give me some pointers on how to adjust the bladder model? (You also talk about solving differential equations in the blurb; as someone with experience in numerical computation I'd be interested in any sources you could point me to on more complicated models!) PERVasive 1 Quote Link to comment
PERVasive 104 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, imfac said: @PERVasive I don't know if you're still lurking this thread, but after building your app it from source yesterday, I tested it for the first time today! I followed your instructions and waited 45 minutes without drinking anything, went pee, then started the program up. Since this was my first time using the program I decided to do a straight hold to set my bladder capacity. I went with a strict schedule of 100mL/15min, and had drank 1400mL when I first leaked, at which point I clicked "I can't hold it!" Based on that, the trainer's report for how much should've been in my bladder was roughly 1050mL. The amount I actually recorded, though, was... 1550mL. Whoops, I violated conservation of mass. This is especially strange since I thought I had started dehydrated, and the model should've overestimated the amount in me! Needless to say, I might need to tweak the bladder model for my own personal use. I'm familiar with Python and I'd be willing to take a crack at your code and modify it. Would you be willing to give me some pointers on how to adjust the bladder model? (You also talk about solving differential equations in the blurb; as someone with experience in numerical computation I'd be interested in any sources you could point me to on more complicated models!) I'm around but not really developing this actively. ? The core of the bladder model is the method Drink.unabsorbed(t) in omo.py, and the main tweakable parameter is h, defined at the top of that file. If you were going to develop a more detailed model, you would need to take into account that the kidneys have a minimum filtration rate of about 1 L/day and maximum of about 1 L/hr. So instead of simple exponential decay to model the amount of liquid filtered, you'd want to integrate some sort of logistic curve representing the rate. You'd also want to take into account the effect of electrolyte balance on the filtration rate, not just volume of liquid. That could potentially involve a system of differential equations, one to model absorption of fluid and electrolytes into the blood, the other to model filtration of the blood into urine. This could also account for the time it takes larger amounts to be absorbed into the blood after drinking. In your case, it's likely that you created a duiretic effect by drinking fluids low in electrolytes. My attitude is that the actual question we're asking isn't whether the amount is strictly accurate, but whether the prediction of when you reach maximum holding capacity is accurate across multiple sessions for a given individual user. Anecdotally, I think it may be that the error in the numerical amount is consistent across sessions, but different between people, because people's habits and physiology differ. EDIT: Incidentally, since you're looking at the code for the underlying bladder model, note that it's structured so that nothing in omo.py is totally unaware of the GUI or of the current clock time; anything about either the time or the user interface status is passed as a parameter. That means you can play with the omo.py API in an interactive Python session or use it as the backend for a different interface or even a different game. Edited January 5, 2019 by PERVasive (see edit history) Quote Link to comment
Ranpalan 496 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 @PERVasive Thank you for writing this, I've been playing with ideas for something like this myself. Would you mind describing briefly how the model works, and why you think it's a good approximation? Quote EDIT: Incidentally, since you're looking at the code for the underlying bladder model, note that it's structured so that nothing in omo.py is totally unaware of the GUI or of the current clock time; anything about either the time or the user interface status is passed as a parameter. That means you can play with the omo.py API in an interactive Python session or use it as the backend for a different interface or even a different game. This is really good news; I could see a lot of value in putting up a web interface on something like PythonAnywhere and tracking the data. We could finally have reasonable estimates of the bladder distribution amongst omo enthusiasts. ? Quote Link to comment
PERVasive 104 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) This old thread contains some of the underlying thought process and early versions of some of the code: (Also just realized I wrote a double negative in my last post...sorry for any confusion!) Edited January 6, 2019 by PERVasive (see edit history) Ranpalan 1 Quote Link to comment
Ranpalan 496 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Oh, heh, apparently I was already aware of that thread and even responded... five years ago. ? Thanks! PERVasive 1 Quote Link to comment
DeltaFoxtrot 173 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 So to the original question... anyone able to run this on android, or is there a mobile version? Quote Link to comment
DeltaFoxtrot 173 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Tried this on the PC over the weekend... an entertaining, if torturous, process. Got my wife on it now... says emergency in 30 minutes for her, we shall see. Quote Link to comment
CarmenCD 1,363 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 I still use it. It's great app. Would really like to have android version too, so I could use it in public. squirmystud 1 Quote Link to comment
Ronyo 806 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 @PERVasive I can't help but notice you've got a pull request waiting for you to respond, have you stopped working with this project? It's a shame if you have, the addition looks pretty cute. Quote Link to comment
fullbguy 27 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Is anyone still working on this? I could be persuaded to make some additions since it's open source now. Quote Link to comment
cowmoo1979 0 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 9/7/2019 at 3:53 AM, CarmenCD said: I still use it. It's great app. Would really like to have android version too, so I could use it in public. This definitely sounds like something that wold be fun to use in public, almost as much fun as finding someone to control one's bladder. Quote Link to comment
CarmenCD 1,363 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 9 hours ago, cowmoo1979 said: This definitely sounds like something that wold be fun to use in public, almost as much fun as finding someone to control one's bladder. So true. It's 2nd best thing next to a person controlling your bladder. Quote Link to comment
MeetParel 0 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 This software runs on 64bit only.. have you got 32bit version? I really want to use this software! Quote Link to comment
cowmoo1979 0 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I'm using the app right now. Wondering how this evening shall go.... Quote Link to comment
Desperato 81 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I'm very happy to have stumbled upon this thread. This is a really interesting app, I've been wanting something like this! Sometimes I subject myself to a somewhat similar "manual" version by rolling dice, drawing cards, etc., but having the interface and watching the meter fill up is great. One thing I wish it had is a mode where it controls the player's drinking as well as granting/withholding permission to pee. In other words, instead of the slider for drink amounts (where the player reports their own drinking), it would periodically prompt the player to drink a certain amount. I'm playing around with the source code, and this would actually be relatively easy to add. Anybody have suggestions for how to set up the mechanics of a Required Drinking mode? The simplest would just be to have a required drink every, say, 15 minutes, with a random volume each time scaled to the current bladder capacity. (e.g., for the default 500ml capacity, each required drink might be randomized between 50ml and 150ml. Another option is for the drinking to be linked to the permission requests: The "you may not pee." response could randomly come with a requirement to drink more, and the "you may pee" response would require following peeing with a big extra drink. Thoughts? Here4theFun and CarmenCD 2 Quote Link to comment
CarmenCD 1,363 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Urolagniasaur said: I'm very happy to have stumbled upon this thread. This is a really interesting app, I've been wanting something like this! Sometimes I subject myself to a somewhat similar "manual" version by rolling dice, drawing cards, etc., but having the interface and watching the meter fill up is great. One thing I wish it had is a mode where it controls the player's drinking as well as granting/withholding permission to pee. In other words, instead of the slider for drink amounts (where the player reports their own drinking), it would periodically prompt the player to drink a certain amount. I'm playing around with the source code, and this would actually be relatively easy to add. Anybody have suggestions for how to set up the mechanics of a Required Drinking mode? The simplest would just be to have a required drink every, say, 15 minutes, with a random volume each time scaled to the current bladder capacity. (e.g., for the default 500ml capacity, each required drink might be randomized between 50ml and 150ml. Another option is for the drinking to be linked to the permission requests: The "you may not pee." response could randomly come with a requirement to drink more, and the "you may pee" response would require following peeing with a big extra drink. Thoughts? Good ideas. I would love to test app with all those extra features. Quote Link to comment
Catherine 103 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 9/7/2019 at 10:53 AM, CarmenCD said: I still use it. It's great app. Would really like to have android version too, so I could use it in public. You can use my android version ^^ Quote Link to comment
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