Aaron 402 Posted November 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2016 Wetting on camera seems to be becoming a bit of a niche profession now there are so many producers of this type of material, but are the models really into it or is it all about the money? Clearly this would depend on the model. In the days when I was watching Skymouse's webcams it was sometimes clear what models were really into wetting their panties and which ones were simply going through the bladder movements. This is a question best asked of omo producers and I could have PM'd TVGuy (hi there) privately but I think that we might all be interested in the answer. Do omo models turn up for their first shoot already with a wetting fetish? If they don't, do they develop one? Do they indulge in omo play off camera? What sort of reactions to you get when explaining to potential new models what they are expected to do? Oh and one final question based on something Skymouse was telling me once when I met him in a pub in London. Do models have real accidents while waiting for scenes to be set-up? Micron27, OmoMan111, Superspaced and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment
Micron27 12 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 13 hours ago, Aaron said: Oh and one final question based on something Skymouse was telling me once when I met him in a pub in London. Do models have real accidents while waiting for scenes to be set-up? I would like to know this too. Good questions! I seam to remember a "behind the scenes" or a "making of" recording where the model had an accident. But that too could of been staged i guess. Quote Link to comment
WetDave 650 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Come on Mr. TVGuy - we need your input! I likecto think they're enjoying it. But, I suspect it's a bit like mainstream porn stars pretending to enjoy the sex. Or indeed any actress/actor playing a role - they're pretending. However, maybe the genre is more likely to appeal to actresses that do not find it unpleasant or gross to wet themselves. I just don't know really. Quote Link to comment
Barry 1,608 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 @TVGuy I'm really interested in this as well. Good subject for a thread. Quote Link to comment
stranger 435 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I remeber a video from bound2burst when Candle says behind the scene "I like to pee" Quote Link to comment
Jeanette 168 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 17 hours ago, Aaron said: Do models have real accidents while waiting for scenes to be set-up? This is only somewhat related, but I saw a Japanese video once where the model arrived at the shoot bursting to pee, and they had her wait off set for a while until they were ready. Little did she know that her waiting off set actually was the shoot, with the goal being to capture a real accident as she waited for them to start. RDFan2020, Sake, Beatrix and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
Mildred Downs 11 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I think it is a gig, but with a difference. A model enjoys showing off; that is what they do. At clubs, a dancer shows off her body to best advantage. Now it seems that more actresses are willing to show more off to stay in the money. Just like working overtime to impress the boss. At some point, they will draw a line in the sand, while others will push the envelope. Pee in a room, on the street, climb a flagpole, oval office . . . Some one will always be there to take advantage of their vanity. We hide our kink, they get paid for it. Supply and demand. Ho hum. Quote Link to comment
TVGuy 10,657 Posted November 5, 2016 🌟 OmoOrg VIP Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2016 @Aaron @WetDave @Barry Thanks for thinking of me with this question! Unfortunately, I fear that my answer might not be totally satisfying, but I will do my best. So, what you might find disappointing here is that I actually don't ask the models if they are really into it or not. For me, my job is to produce the best possible omo videos. I hire models based on their ability to do that, but I care much more about their ability to act, to come across as being comfortable on camera, and to have fun, or at least seem like they are having fun on camera. It is almost like a variation on the Turing test, only for omo- If they seem like they are into it, does anything else really matter? At a certain level, almost everything is fake anyway. The shoots are planned and scheduled in advance, there is lighting, sound, camera, a crew, and a budget. No matter how real we try to make it, or how good of job we do, the videos are ultimately a constructed representation of a fantasy, not a document of reality. Now, with that said, consider this- Working for me, the models only make about half of what they could make at any other adult shoot. To come work for me, they have to drive two hours to get here, and two hours to get back. There is other adult video work much closer to where they are. This doesn't mean they are into omo, but for some reason they are choosing to spend four hours on the road, plus twelve hours of shooting, only to make half of what they usually would make. Now, there are other benefits that they get from shooting with me, like a professionally planned shoot, working with a production crew, getting to act and portray a character a bit more than they would on a typical adult video shoot, and participate in very nerdy discussions. However, despite that, it is hard for me to believe they would still put up with everything if they objected to omorashi in any way. As those of you who have been a member of HD Wetting before know, we like to keep bringing back the same models. So, working with the same models over and over again, sometimes things come up naturally in the course of conversation, even though I don't ask specifically. Many of the models to find some form of enjoyment from peeing in their pants, but often it is not sexual. They like the taboo aspect of getting to do something that otherwise would not be appropriate, they like that they have fans who enjoy watching them, or they simply think that it is fun/funny, but not necessarily sexual. In the early days of HD Wetting, I had models who applied to work with us who stated up front that they didn't have any modeling experience, but that this was something they were legitimately into. Sometimes, these models worked out great. This was the case with Sammy. However, other models, who I don't wish to identify publicly, didn't work out nearly so well. This was something that they were actually into, and they had all sorts of great stories, but once the lights came on, and there was a microphone overhead, and the camera was rolling, they froze up. They became very self aware, awkward, kept looking around for encouragement, and they seemed extremely uncomfortable. Watching the video, you wouldn't think that they were at all into omo, but the actual problem was they weren't that comfortable in front of the camera. On the other hand, I've successfully worked with models who were the exact opposite. Again, I'm not going to name these models, but they actually found pee a bit gross. However, they could act well. In my opinion, their videos are some of the best we have ever made, they seem to truly enjoy what they are doing. You would never guess that as soon as the scene was over they would start screaming for wipes and soap and get as far away from the mess they just made as possible. Alright, I know I kind of rambled a bit there, hopefully those of you who are interested in this will find my answer there a bit enlightening. So, to answer your specific questions Aaron- Wetting on camera seems to be becoming a bit of a niche profession now there are so many producers of this type of material, but are the models really into it or is it all about the money? Definitely not all about the money, as they could make more doing just about any other kind of adult video work. Do omo models turn up for their first shoot already with a wetting fetish? I don't specifically asked, but some models have volunteered that they do indeed have a wetting fetish while others clearly state that it isn't something that they have personally been into before. For some, it was maybe something they were into for a short time and kind of forgot about, or something they have been curious about, but never actually tried. Or, it might be an interest of theirs, but not sexually. If they don't, do they develop one? I don't know if you would consider it a fetish, but many of the models have come to express that doing the shoots, and getting to pee in their pants, has become fun for them. Initially, they weren't that into it, but they grow to enjoy that they get to just let it out and don't have to hold it that long. Getting to do something, that would normally be frowned upon, is fun for them, but not really a sexual fetish. Do they indulge in omo play off camera? At least three models I have worked with in the past have stated that they do. However, I don't ask this, so I only know if they volunteer the information. What sort of reactions to you get when explaining to potential new models what they are expected to do? All kinds of reactions. First, before we ever meet, they know what kind of content we produce. So its not like they show up at my office and suddenly I surprise them. Probably the most common reaction I get is, "That is so interested!" For the most part models are just really curious about it. Some just kind of smile and nod as I explain the kind of content we shoot, while others get kind of enthusiastic about what it would be like to shoot those kind of scenes. Do models have real accidents while waiting for scenes to be set-up? Nope. At least not with our videos. We plan the shoots pretty thoroughly, for maximum efficiency. I have to pay the models a day rate, so I try really hard to minimize the time they are just sitting and waiting. Often, as we are finishing up once scene, I'll have our production assistant (PA), or our PA and my girlfriend, will start setting up the next scene, so we can move straight from one set up to the next with very little time in between. The closest we have got to this being an issue is when we have done shoots that have more than one location, and there is drive time between. In addition to the time on the road between locations, there also can be some setup time. Now, it usually isn't too terribly long, so there haven't been any accidents in these cases, but a few times there has been some pretty significant desperation. An example of that would be this video, where Sosha just wanted to be as soon as possible once we were ready to shoot, as she was so desperate at that point. Other times, we'll actually take advantage of that desperation and start shooting in the car, sometimes filming an impromptu wetting in a parking lot, if we wouldn't otherwise be able to get to the planned location on time, as we did in this video. Well, I hope that is everything. Let me know if you have any other questions. Further back, there have been some times that the models started to leak a bit before we were quite ready with the camera. Personally, I don't like it when this happens, as you end up missing out on part of the wetting in the video, but you can see examples of that here and here. Gentleman_95, moiamigo, WetDave and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment
AD51 581 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 5 hours ago, Gregg said: This is only somewhat related, but I saw a Japanese video once where the model arrived at the shoot bursting to pee, and they had her wait off set for a while until they were ready. Little did she know that her waiting off set actually was the shoot, with the goal being to capture a real accident as she waited for them to start. I really want to find this now. Quote Link to comment
Gemmy 3,817 Posted November 5, 2016 ✨ Legendary Member Share Posted November 5, 2016 I know there are a few models who do enjoy holding and/or wetting in their personal life which is why they enjoy making omo videos so much. Others I guess are just playing out a role as with any other kind of porn. I do like to think that some models come to do omo videos and end up developing a liking for it. moiamigo 1 Quote Link to comment
kokandra123 148 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 12 hours ago, Gregg said: This is only somewhat related, but I saw a Japanese video once where the model arrived at the shoot bursting to pee, and they had her wait off set for a while until they were ready. Little did she know that her waiting off set actually was the shoot, with the goal being to capture a real accident as she waited for them to start. Any idea were we could find this video? :) RDFan2020 1 Quote Link to comment
Jeanette 168 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 9 hours ago, AD51 said: I really want to find this now. 2 hours ago, kokandra123 said: Any idea were we could find this video? :) I'm pretty sure I got it on the Japanese file sharing service, Share. Unfortunately, it was many years ago, so I don't remember anything about the title, and I've long since deleted it from my computer. I just used to go and look for videos with the key words おもらし/お漏らし (omorashi-wetting) or 我慢 (gaman-desperation) or おしっこ (oshikko-pee). The only thing I remember about this video was the premise, and I think the model was dressed as a nurse, but the location appeared to be a basement or storage room of some kind. She finally ended up wetting herself sitting on a small bench, and was very quiet and subdued when it happened. She was initially bouncing and fidgeting all over the place, but a minute or so before the accident happened, she sat down and got really still. You wouldn't have even noticed when she started to pee, except the cameraman was keeping a close eye on her the whole time. Quote Link to comment
LunasAuditor 163 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 @TVGuy Thanks for the insight, definitely interesting to read from someone in a position to know! Quote Link to comment
kokandra123 148 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gregg said: I'm pretty sure I got it on the Japanese file sharing service, Share. Unfortunately, it was many years ago, so I don't remember anything about the title, and I've long since deleted it from my computer. I just used to go and look for videos with the key words おもらし/お漏らし (omorashi-wetting) or 我慢 (gaman-desperation) or おしっこ (oshikko-pee). The only thing I remember about this video was the premise, and I think the model was dressed as a nurse, but the location appeared to be a basement or storage room of some kind. She finally ended up wetting herself sitting on a small bench, and was very quiet and subdued when it happened. She was initially bouncing and fidgeting all over the place, but a minute or so before the accident happened, she sat down and got really still. You wouldn't have even noticed when she started to pee, except the cameraman was keeping a close eye on her the whole time. Is this the video? BTS Pink Nurse Outfit.avi Edited November 5, 2016 by kokandra123 (see edit history) moiamigo and Beatrix 2 Quote Link to comment
Jeanette 168 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, kokandra123 said: Is this the video? BTS Pink Nurse Outfit.avi Yes, that's the one! I thought I got it off Share, but I may have found it on this board. It's been so long, it's easy to forget. For example, I could have sworn her nurse's outfit was white instead of pink. But at the same time, I remembered her peeing on what appeared to be an exercise bench, although that was a detail I thought I may have misremembered. In retrospect, I have to wonder if the whole scenario wasn't staged, and the model was in on it the whole time. Her desperation looks real, but it's hard to know for sure, especially in light of what @TVGuy posted about his experience. Quote Link to comment
AD51 581 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, kokandra123 said: Is this the video? BTS Pink Nurse Outfit.avi Thank you so much. Quote Link to comment
kokandra123 148 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I've got a couple more behind-the-scenes Japanese videos....I will post them soon. Beatrix 1 Quote Link to comment
Beatrix 459 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 2 hours ago, kokandra123 said: Is this the video? BTS Pink Nurse Outfit.avi You are not only the hero we need, you're the hero we want. Gentleman_95 and moiamigo 2 Quote Link to comment
TVGuy 10,657 Posted November 6, 2016 🌟 OmoOrg VIP Share Posted November 6, 2016 9 hours ago, kokandra123 said: Is this the video? BTS Pink Nurse Outfit.avi 9 hours ago, Gregg said: Yes, that's the one! I thought I got it off Share, but I may have found it on this board. It's been so long, it's easy to forget. For example, I could have sworn her nurse's outfit was white instead of pink. But at the same time, I remembered her peeing on what appeared to be an exercise bench, although that was a detail I thought I may have misremembered. In retrospect, I have to wonder if the whole scenario wasn't staged, and the model was in on it the whole time. Her desperation looks real, but it's hard to know for sure, especially in light of what @TVGuy posted about his experience. I am inclined to believe this video is indeed staged, based on how we do things at Fuzzy Squirrel Productions, but I very well could be wrong. Unless we are taking a meal break, we never have this much time between scenes. If I paid the models their current day rates, and we took this much time between scenes, I would of had to shut down HD Wetting a long time ago. Additionally, I'm not sure what would be taking them so long to set up? It should take that long to get audio or lights set up, and shouldn't the talent be there to set audio levels and lighting according to her? And if they are setting up a scene, why is this camera guy just following the model around instead of getting the scene ready. We don't ever, at any point, see people getting prepped for the next scene, so it feels a bit off to me that she is just having to wait. In addition to this large amount of time where they just aren't shooting any scene, where is the director? This is valuable time that the director should blocking out the action of the next scene. Also, if any of my girls were ever in such a situation, they would flat out tell me that they can't hold it, and I should get a camera on them so I don't miss a wetting. She seems to be completely uninterested in the upcoming scene. So, that is why I suspect it might be staged. However, Giga obviously is a much different outfit to Fuzzy Squirrel Productions. They seem to have a whole building, or at least a large portion of a building, at there disposal for shooting. At Fuzzy Squirrel Productions, we have a single production office, then rent out other locations. We shoot with a very minimal crew, usually just a camera person and a sound person, maybe a production assistant for a larger, more involved shoot. Everyone is working all the time. At Giga, they seem to have several people who are just wandering around, in no great hurry. When we do shoots at Fuzzy Squirrel Productions, we are constantly racing the clock to get all the scenes shot, to get the maximum amount of content. Giga seems to be able to shoot at a much more relaxed pace. But, does anyone know if Giga is still around? All the videos from them seem to be from the 90s, on SD, before there was much in the way of free internet porn, especially pee content. I am under the impression that producers back then made a lot more money, which meant they could afford a lot more when it came to content creation. Final note, we did a video somewhat similar to this at HD Wetting, with the same basic idea that a model has to pee while the scene was getting setup. All shot behind the scenes on a cell phone. You can see it here. OmoMan111 and moiamigo 2 Quote Link to comment
Jeanette 168 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 @TVGuy, I never suspected the video wasn't staged, my only question was whether or not the model was in on it. My first thought was that they kept her in the dark to capture a more realistic performance of her trying to hold on, and ultimately losing control. But in retrospect, this could have easily backfired if she had a larger bladder capacity than the producers anticipated (or for any number of other reasons). So based on that, plus all the things you mentioned, it does seem more likely that she was in on it from the start. Quote Link to comment
Aaron 402 Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 @TVGuy thanks for the detailed responses. You certainly have a job to envy. Quote Link to comment
watchingherhold 103 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I think that like any other job, some will enjoy it, some will just do it for the money. I have no doubt some omo models will really enjoy it. Some will enjoy the desperation and others will just enjoy the wetting side where a lot of desperation is not required. I watched the video and really enjoyed it. I think it was all planned beforehand, and the model knew it. However the desperation was absolutely genuine. The fact the cameras were rolling all the time and she knew that too, surely would have told her something. Whether she could have held longer or not is something we will never know. I suspect she could. There was no worry or panic, which there would have been had she wet herself accidently. After all she was supposedly holding for a shoot. Quote Link to comment
ian flemming 231 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 This may fall in to the none of my business catagory . but what is the average day rate for your actors. Or really any actor in this kind of field. Quote Link to comment
KnightOfRen 45 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 This is fascinating, thanks for sharing! On 11/4/2016 at 5:25 PM, stranger said: I remeber a video from bound2burst when Candle says behind the scene "I like to pee" I definitely get the impression from watching Candle that she enjoys it :3 maybe someday I'll buy from B2B, I do like their stuff, I just get shy with providing credit card stuff even though I know they're reputable. Not sure why, everyone with a credit card is a legal adult, and it's just my account, I don't share it with anyone, so it's not like anyone is going to care what I purchase. (Plus, B2B is one of the few I've seen that does 'just made it' type videos, which is something I enjoy.) But yeah, all of this makes sense. There are a ton of fetishists out there, but many (most of us, perhaps?) are camera shy or wouldn't want to do this job anyhow. There's plenty of amateur content out there by fetishists too, either free or paid, that they upload themselves. But then many of those folks aren't very good at acting (hence the myriad of "oh no the bathroom is locked" videos people make), so it makes sense if you're producing things to want them to be as professional as possible. Thanks again TVGuy for always providing such wonderfully thought out, elucidating replies. Quote Link to comment
ian flemming 231 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 To the original question my girl friend and my self were very In to posting pictures on abkindom and wetset when we were kids. think early 2000's . No pay Needed Quote Link to comment
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.