Is Gender A Spectrum?

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6 hours ago, EMT said:

That's called a genetic malfunction.

Not necesary genetic, but yea... 

 

Tho my question rather was about, how u would choose only 2Genders "based by whats in ur pants", since these malfuctions can change the whole...

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Again, I'd like to point out that intersex exists as a catch-all for anatomical abnormalities related to genitalia, and that such is rare enough that most people go their entire lives without knowingly meeting an intersex individual. I've also read that individuals with XO, XXX, or XXY chromosomal abnormalities sometimes go most, if not all, of their lives without knowing their condition because of having mild symptoms.

 

Though given the earlier comments about Downs and inheriting conditions, I find myself wondering: For conditions caused by chromosomal abnormalities(Downs is caused by having three copies of chromosome 21) that don't lead to sterility, are individuals with these conditions any more likely than the general population to produce gametes with the wrong number of chromosomes?

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36 minutes ago, Jeffery Mewtamer said:

Though given the earlier comments about Downs and inheriting conditions, I find myself wondering: For conditions caused by chromosomal abnormalities(Downs is caused by having three copies of chromosome 21) that don't lead to sterility, are individuals with these conditions any more likely than the general population to produce gametes with the wrong number of chromosomes?

Depends alot on the abnormality id guess.

IIRC from med school.. Downs gets passed onto child. BUT a little less than "normal" because downs-baby´s are less likely to even get "finished". It depends on alot of things tho

(afaik tri21 leads to ~2 (not calcing in new random mutations) possible combinations from parent -> 1x 21 or 2x21 (+1x21 from other parent)-> ~50/50% , but since 2x21 is less likely to even live on till birth it lowers down to about 30-40% (of childs that get tri21).
Id guess even if both parents are with tri21 they could have a "normal" baby still. (1x21+1x21  ,1x21+2x21,   2x21+1x21 and 2x21+2x21 (no idea if 4x21 is even able to live))

It probably also slightly depends if the father or the mother have downs, since mothers eggs are more likely to mutate again or something.. over 90% first mutations come from (esp. old) mothers iirc. 

Since there is also different kinds of tri21 it gets even harder to say .. (e.g. mosaic where only some parts of the body have tri21 .. if sperm/eggs arent affected it shouldnt get passed on, except just have it mutate again (at ~ normal rate).
Also theres forms where the 3rd 21 is translocated onto another chromosome which makes it even more complicated id guess. 

I think there also been some study´s how some kind/race/ethnie of people have higher chance to get childs with tri21, because some "dna checks" are broken - when the "dna check" is broken for (both) the parent, causing higher chance for their child to get tri21, then the kid with tri21 will have higher chance aswell, but a "normal" kid would have higher chance to get a kid with tri21 aswell... So its not only because of the tri21 in this case. (but rather because there already is a higher mutation rate in those kind of people anyways - something similar for some sorts of breastcancer iirc, the cancer itself doesnt really get passed on, but some "control" stuff is broken)

Its hard to talk about something like this without being to good at english, i hope its understandable (+not wrong, been some years).



 

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as someone who is troubled by this stuff myself

 

Yeahhh this is a hard thing to actually get any form of mind around, it depends on how you see it i guess?

 

there are, 2 genders imo, male and female, but those 2 are like the main ends of a wide spectrum

note: gender is what you actually feel as in your head, don't go apache helicopter or cat because that's something entirely different, feeling as if you should've been a cat has nothing to do with gender at all because cats are also male/female(just an example lol, i've seen that sorta thing, not that i blame them, to each their own)

 

So basically, it's what one person feels themselfes as, i for one, am born in a male body, but everything in my mind is going waaaay against that, if that makes any sense? from pure interests to the way i "naturally" behave to whatnot is everything but male, that combined with the "cliché" thing of like oh no i never liked my dick i want that operation, well it's sortof always been there, just not clear? like i always wanted to change but never went further in it because i just didn't think of it much(till therapy and research happened ofc)

 

BUT enough of that, in my eyes there are 2 genders, note this is mental, so if you feel male your gender is male, if you feel female your gender is female, it has nothing to do with actual sex, it's what your body says biologicaly, with alot of actual changing and whatnot(hormones, and operations) it'll be like what 75%? but you'll still be the biological sex of your birth, you will have just changed it enough to be more like the other sex i presume, but stuff like the actual bone structure and stuff will stay the same ofc, can't change that lol, i mean outside of facial operations

 

tl;dr

2 genders, totally nothing to do with actual sex, it's mental and a wide af spectrum beteen male/female, no apache helicopter or whatever

 

If anyone has more questions feel free to pm me or something lol

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53 minutes ago, ~Miyuki~ said:

 

tl;dr

2 genders, totally nothing to do with actual sex, it's mental and a wide af spectrum beteen male/female, no apache helicopter or whatever

 

Although I think here are more then two named genders, I pretty much ageee with you... gender is a spectrum, sex is not gender, be whatever you feel. 

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