HappyFaceXD 10 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I have been in a few relationships and every time i seem to have problems in bed but couldn't explain why. I have done some research and this seems to diagnose me exactly. As a 20 year old male it seemed so strange to have an issue but masturbating once a day is probably not the best heh. Anyone else out there having a similar problem? These articles are very detailed http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201107/porn-induced-sexual-dysfunction-growing-problem http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/can-porn-cause-erectile-dysfunction-pt-1 Quote Link to comment
vexer6 62 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I masturbate almost every day and I have yet to experience any kind of dysfunction. I don't think it would be humanely possible for me to go months without masturbating. Quote Link to comment
wayne88 1 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Just going through this now and I'm 21. Thanks for the links. Have been wondering if being on sites like this has ruined my interest in "normal sex". What have you done to help it? Quote Link to comment
jinkazama 15 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 If you stop seeing it for a while and start seeing normal porn the brain can return to normal,A.K.A before fetish .I did it for a while and gathered good results but came back here because female desperation is too sexy.Can´t help it. Quote Link to comment
Kyuu 5,911 Posted August 18, 2013 👑 Administrator Share Posted August 18, 2013 I have always found normal western porn to be repulsing, never once in my life have I enjoyed it. Watching "normal porn" for a while doesn't change or do anything. If you have an addiction to pornography that's another matter entirely. Anwyays, I know I suffer no such issues and it's not at all uncommon for any young male to masturbate daily. It's normal. But I think when you get to the point of casually sleeping with half the girls you meet, that's likely going to be more of a cause of "dysfunction" than anything else. Not to mention this stuff is mostly just fantasy (especially in regards to written and drawn material), watching online material is different from real life or "the real thing." So I think blaming this on pornography is largely bullshit. Most of the people they've interviewed are probably the types that try and sleep with every girl they meet. (Also, I will not take anything Dr. Oz says seriously) Quote Link to comment
vexer6 62 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I don't find western porn "repulsing" most of the time(especially if it's lesbian or transgendered porn) but then again I actually don't watch porn all that often, I recognize that porn scenarios almost never happen in real life. Most of my stimulation material is erotic stories on sites like Literotica, Hentai Foundry, Archive Of Our Own, both Adultfanfiction and Fanfiction.net, TSSA, CSSA, Shara And Ger's and of course this site. But I can easily get turned on by myself just thinking about a women being desperate, so I think those articles may be a bit clouded due to their writers having an obvious bias against porn. Quote Link to comment
SeriousSly 190 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I've had this problem once or twice but for me it wasn't too much porn, just the way I was masterbating. I used to masturbate in a prone position, laid out on my stomach face down and rubbing against something. That could be your issue because it's impossible to replicate when you're with someone else. A few months of masturbating the normal way will get you back to tip top :) Quote Link to comment
Rinatro 185 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) If you stop seeing it for a while and start seeing normal porn the brain can return to normal,A.K.A before fetish .I did it for a while and gathered good results but came back here because female desperation is too sexy.Can´t help it. Pretty much this, same thing happened to me. I got too hooked on omorashi stuff that I couldn't get off to anything else. Sure I could still get it up when with a girl, although nothing would come from it. If you essentially just stop mastrabating for a couple of weeks, then you can slowly reintroduce yourself to a more varied set (which is better all around and does help with self-esteem.). Its basically reprogramming your brain to go from "this is sexual stuff" to "these are sexual stuff". The brain really is an amazing thing. Edited August 18, 2013 by Rinatro (see edit history) Quote Link to comment
oopsipeedmypants 72 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 If you can't get your dick up at 20, you should see a doctor ASAP. Trying to self diagnose is stupid, especially when there could be an underlying medical (physical) cause. pm979mp, Ranpalan and seg85 3 Quote Link to comment
M1ndblow 98 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I don't think that self diagnosis is all that stupid. The more you know about your symptoms the better you can describe them to a doctor. Besides that, it can be a good idea to have a suggestion in mind to what could cause those sympomes. Especially if it might be about something that is relatively new, like the longterm effects of watching porn, there's a high chance that your doctor might not even have heard about it yet. At least in my experience many doctors make their diagnoses based on the likelihood of certain diseases instead of focusing on your specific combination of symptoms. Quote Link to comment
stradlin 0 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Thanks for this thread. For people who've had this problem, knowing others have been there and somehow managed to have a peaceful coexistence between there love for omorashi and enjoying normal sex says to me that maybe I can do the same for myself. And SeriousSly, I thought I was the only one who did that! Quote Link to comment
wayne88 1 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 If you can't get your dick up at 20, you should see a doctor ASAP. Trying to self diagnose is stupid, especially when there could be an underlying medical (physical) cause. Well in my case it's not so much something that seems like a physical problem. Shouldn't physical ED manifest when masturbating as well? If I'm having trouble getting into sex I can fantasize about my usual erotic stimulation and it helps. Seems to me that I've trained my mind wrong over the years. After a few weeks of normal sex it got better, but the anxiety of ED makes it really hard to focus. I've read about guys in their 20s who have been perscribed normal ED medicine simply to "get back their confidence". Because sex becomes really stressful when you always feel like you're on the spot. Quote Link to comment
koopatroopa 75 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) I have been in a few relationships and every time i seem to have problems in bed but couldn't explain why. I have done some research and this seems to diagnose me exactly. As a 20 year old male it seemed so strange to have an issue but masturbating once a day is probably not the best heh. Anyone else out there having a similar problem? These articles are very detailed http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201107/porn-induced-sexual-dysfunction-growing-problem http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/can-porn-cause-erectile-dysfunction-pt-1 I made an topic like this a year ago, using the top link too I might add and I got a lot of mixed replies. For myself, I had no problem getting it up it was just achieving an organism that was the problem. I pretty much did what Rinato mentioned above and stopped masterbating for a week. After the week was up I started fantasizing about normal sex (nothing fetish related) Upon doing this I noticed the time it took for me to orgasim to normal sex while masterbating dropped steadely. I think its a lot like sleep habits some people have, where as you can't fall asleep unless your in a certain position or like when you're a kid and you can't sleep without your blanket. It just takes some time to break the habit, despite what some people may say on here. Also another thing when you do masterbate, use more lube to achieve less friction and over time making it easier to get off with your girlfriend because lets face it (not to be gross, perverse or to offend anyone) some girls are just tighter than others. Edited August 18, 2013 by koopatroopa (see edit history) Quote Link to comment
Gadwin 54 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I have always found normal western porn to be repulsing, never once in my life have I enjoyed it. Watching "normal porn" for a while doesn't change or do anything. If you have an addiction to pornography that's another matter entirely. Anwyays, I know I suffer no such issues and it's not at all uncommon for any young male to masturbate daily. It's normal. But I think when you get to the point of casually sleeping with half the girls you meet, that's likely going to be more of a cause of "dysfunction" than anything else. Not to mention this stuff is mostly just fantasy (especially in regards to written and drawn material), watching online material is different from real life or "the real thing." So I think blaming this on pornography is largely bullshit. Most of the people they've interviewed are probably the types that try and sleep with every girl they meet. (Also, I will not take anything Dr. Oz says seriously) Also, as a side note the more often one masturbates the weaker the orgasms will be. I don't think this translates into dysfunction, per se, but it will affect overall quality of sex. Go a few days without it, and then notice how much stronger it becomes. And adding more detail to what you said, normal porn doesn't really do it for me either. I look at it, and I can appreciate the beauty of some of the female models, but that's really about it. Most of the time it doesn't even really get me aroused. Some lesbian stuff is okay, but normal guy/girl porn is usually a turnoff because all I can focus on is the humongous horse cock that the dude has :| More-on topic, I think OP's problems may be related to unrealistic expectations, which may or may not have anything to do with porn. In pornos, the sex lacks the intimacy of a real relationship, and is much more.. bestial. If you expect your reality sex life to imitate a porno, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. There's nothing wrong with enjoying porn, but do so knowing that isn't what it's really like. Also, when you get into a sexual relationship I would abstain from masturbating as often and see if it helps. It will allow you to build up your libido more, so you will be more horny when the time comes. Kyuu, Zapdos and Jarvis Langley 3 Quote Link to comment
Kyuu 5,911 Posted August 19, 2013 👑 Administrator Share Posted August 19, 2013 Also, as a side note the more often one masturbates the weaker the orgasms will be. I don't think this translates into dysfunction, per se, but it will affect overall quality of sex. Go a few days without it, and then notice how much stronger it becomes.Yep, I think that definitely makes sense. But the same thing could happen by having sex too often as well :P Quote Link to comment
Credil 754 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I would say from a bilogically evolutional point of view, humans per se wern't supposed to find out, how to mastubrate. The only reason for the existince of orgasms , is to motivate the species to breed more often. A species which knows how to masturbte doesn't need to have sex whenever they wnat to feel an orgasm. But maybe this also has a few advantages, I don't want to imageing how overprovulated our planet were, if we humans didn't knew how to mastrubate. I think Inflation applies to almost everythink in our lifes, for example money, feelings, friendships (especially since facebook) gestures, and off course also to every kind of sexual actions Quote Link to comment
One trick pony 43 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I would say from a bilogically evolutional point of view, humans per se wern't supposed to find out, how to mastubrate. The only reason for the existince of orgasms , is to motivate the species to breed more often. A species which knows how to masturbte doesn't need to have sex whenever they wnat to feel an orgasm. I don't think that's true, masturbation is natural and frequently observed in a variety of animals including primates and kangaroos, etc etc. It is the abundance of internet porn that has caused our brains to be desensitized to arousal. Quote Link to comment
Credil 754 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) Now, I am courios, how can kangargoos mastrubate? I wonder is that what the kangaroo children do while are inside the pouch of their mother's. Anyhow back to topic, I just meant that theorgasm per se, is only a trick of nature to make sure that a species has more often sex. Flowwing the device what someone likes to do, he will do more often. And now please excuse me, I will search the net for Doucmentaries about Kangaroos. Edit. I found a video about that on youtube, I would post the link but since Kiritio doesn't allows videos and links that show actucall sexuall acts if it coonsernce humans, I don't think, he would allow to post the link to a video about a mastrubating kangraoo. Hey, I am from the Austria and there you can only see Kangraoos in the zoo, and all the kangraoos I saw threre, were apparently too shy to mastrubate in front of the many visistors. Edited August 19, 2013 by Credil (see edit history) Quote Link to comment
Gadwin 54 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) I think Inflation applies to almost everythink in our lifes, for example money, feelings, friendships (especially since facebook) gestures, and off course also to every kind of sexual actions Well, yes. Any source of pleasure is, at the most simple level, an electrical signal that triggers the release of a hormone (possibly dopamine?) that results in euphoria. Over time, like any chemical that results in an alteration in your brain, you develop a tolerance to it. Thus, it becomes less effective and requires more drastic measures to achieve the same results. Analyzing it from a sexual aspect, this is one of the reasons fetishes exist and why fetishes seem to evolve over time. Sex gets boring, and people don't want to simply abstain from having sex for a while to allow it to become exciting again-- they look for new, often weird things to try and sometimes discover that they really like them. Edited August 19, 2013 by Gadwin (see edit history) Kyuu and Credil 2 Quote Link to comment
fullbladder 1,170 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Good thread... this has actually concerned me for a while... Quote Link to comment
M1ndblow 98 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Sex gets boring, and people don't want to simply abstain from having sex for a while to allow it to become exciting again-- they look for new, often weird things to try and sometimes discover that they really like them. However I don't believe that this is the only reason why fetishes exist. Speaking of my own experience, one day I found that paricular fetish on the internet and instandtly prefered this to ordinary porn, way before I dated any girls and had sex with them. So it's not that I got bored or something, I guess I've always been into that fetish, even before I knew that it existed. Quote Link to comment
YellowPants 72 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I guess I've always been into that fetish, even before I knew that it existed. This is the same for me too, in that I've always had a big interest in wettings, even before it was a sexual thing for me. I didn't even know it was a fetish for a long time. Quote Link to comment
Jarvis Langley 473 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Analyzing it from a sexual aspect, this is one of the reasons fetishes exist and why fetishes seem to evolve over time. Sex gets boring, and people don't want to simply abstain from having sex for a while to allow it to become exciting again-- they look for new, often weird things to try and sometimes discover that they really like them. I dunno about this...I might be unusual, but I've never had an interest in ordinary sex, to the point that I used to think I was asexual. Unless fetishes are involved somehow, I'm just completely indifferent, regardless of lack of sex/masturbating...and I also became interested in my main fetishes before I even knew what sex was, so there's that. I spose some people just can't be un-kinked. :P Quote Link to comment
HappyFaceXD 10 Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Just going through this now and I'm 21. Thanks for the links. Have been wondering if being on sites like this has ruined my interest in "normal sex". What have you done to help it? I started a cold shower therapy as crazy as it sounds. Take cold showers in the morning. reddit has a motivational nofap thread, they recommended it there. http://www.reddit.com/r/nofap/ If you can't get your dick up at 20, you should see a doctor ASAP. Trying to self diagnose is stupid, especially when there could be an underlying medical (physical) cause. I have gone to the doctor and had testosterone checked because a friend thought it could be my thyroid but its not the case. However, i dont have a problem getting it up it more the orgasim. I have always found normal western porn to be repulsing, never once in my life have I enjoyed it. Watching "normal porn" for a while doesn't change or do anything. If you have an addiction to pornography that's another matter entirely. Anwyays, I know I suffer no such issues and it's not at all uncommon for any young male to masturbate daily. It's normal. But I think when you get to the point of casually sleeping with half the girls you meet, that's likely going to be more of a cause of "dysfunction" than anything else. Not to mention this stuff is mostly just fantasy (especially in regards to written and drawn material), watching online material is different from real life or "the real thing." So I think blaming this on pornography is largely bullshit. Most of the people they've interviewed are probably the types that try and sleep with every girl they meet. (Also, I will not take anything Dr. Oz says seriously) its not b.s. blaming it on the pronography because how they word it is the pornography is an extreme level of sex that we wont be able to re-create in normal life. In other words masterbating to any type of extreme porn or fetish porn makes you accustomed to that level of excitement wich is just not achievable in the bedroom (on a day to day basis). Essentially you have wired your endorphins to trigger to an unrealistic scenario. Edited August 20, 2013 by HappyFaceXD (see edit history) Quote Link to comment
Kyuu 5,911 Posted August 20, 2013 👑 Administrator Share Posted August 20, 2013 its not b.s. blaming it on the pronography because how they word it is the pornography is an extreme level of sex that we wont be able to re-create in normal life. In other words masterbating to any type of extreme porn or fetish porn makes you accustomed to that level of excitement wich is just not achievable in the bedroom (on a day to day basis). Essentially you have wired your endorphins to trigger to an unrealistic scenario. Not really. It's still bullshit. Learn to distinguish reality from fantasy. What you watch on your computer screen and the feeling of being with someone in real life, they're two completely different things. Quote Link to comment
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