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I think the bladder size determines how fast the person starts to feel the need to pee, and also the absolute maximum volume that one can physically hold (which only few people can reach that point). However, the strength determines how long one can hold after starting to feel the need to pee. I think both are usually correlated, but it's not always the case.

My dream scenario is that we're both desperate to pee (at nearly the same level) while being stuck in a place with absolutely no toilet (e.g. in a bus during traffic jam). She is desperate to the point that she shows visible signs, e.g. crossing legs, bending forward, and so am I. I don't have a fixed ending for this scenario. Rather, it'd be more interesting to enjoy the real situation and see how it eventually ends, as each ending has its own pros and cons. Possible endings for her include fully wetting, leaking, peeing outside, peeing into a container, or making it to the toilet (the last one is too boring though; for a "dream" ending, she should have at least a wet patch). I also prefer to have the same ending as her, so she'll not be alone.

The desperation of course! To be more specific, the act of fighting against a bladder contraction (the so-called "wave of pee") so hard that it physically shows.

I like the part where Mark said "who puts a tree there?".

Even outdoors, it still causes the underneath floor to get dirty and smell, and also causes your pants to get wet and smell wherever you go and sit. But I think the more important factor is the psychological one: peeing oneself demonstrates lack of self-control and is associated with child-like behavior. For comparison, vomiting in public, which also causes a mess, gets more sympathetic responses because it is mostly associated with sickness (unless the person is visibly drunk, where it is treated with disgust instead).

If asking about my real-world holding and wettting, I'd say needing to poop in the middle of the hold is really a pain in the ass (pun intended). It's disruptive to my holding plan, and sometimes makes my clothes dirty during wetting. Sometimes, I secretly wish people don't have to do #2 at all. If asking about the genres I dislike when reading omo manga, fanfiction, etc., I'd say poop and sex are complete turn-offs for me, even when combining with omo. Other genres that don't appeal to me but I can somehow bear with them include diaper, bedwetting, fear wetting, nudity, etc. (Yes, I know I'm very picky. I only like pure desperation and clothed wetting.)

I've always kept my omo and non-omo identities in the internet separated for more than 10 years, and no one has ever found out. I think the chance is very, very low, basically negligible (unless they're into omo themselves and have an account here; but even if that's the case, the chance is still pretty slim that they'll recognize me based on the stories I posted).

Overalls. They're the best since they're hard to remove.

It totally depends on how exhausted my bladder is. Normally, I rarely leak unless I've been repeatedly doing the hold for several times to exhaust my bladder beforehand. - In the first hold of the day, I generally do not involuntarily leak or wet myself. I don't even feel the bladder contraction. It's only fullness and pain until I can't bear it and voluntarily release the pee. - In the second or third hold of the day, I can feel some bladder contraction (the so-called "wave of pee") when at 8/10, but I usually can handle it without leaking. Ultimately, at 10/10 I can feel muscle spasm and finally wet myself involuntarily. (By wetting myself, I mean releasing around 40-80% of my bladder capacity, usually not 100%.) So, it's usually a wetting WITHOUT leaking on the way. - But if I continue the hold in the next day, that's when my bladder is very exhauseted. I can feel a VERY STRONG contraction even when I'm just 5/10. And that's when leaking happens. Also, when I eventually wet myself, I tend to release all 100% until my bladder is completely empty.

I've experimented this on myself for many years, by recording the volume of the remaining pee after I involuntarily wet myself (and try to regain control as fast as possible). If the hold is the second or third hold of the first day, the remaining volume is about 20-60% of my bladder max capacity. But if that's the second or third day after repeated consecutive holds in previous day (where my bladder is super exhausted), the remaining volume is close to 0%, or sometimes exactly 0%.

It totally depends on how exhausted my bladder is. Normally, I rarely leak unless I've been repeatedly doing the hold for several times to exhaust my bladder beforehand. - In the first hold of the day, I generally do not involuntarily leak or wet myself. I don't even feel the bladder contraction. It's only fullness and pain until I can't bear it and voluntarily release the pee. - In the second or third hold of the day, I can feel some bladder contraction (the so-called "wave of pee") when at 8/10, but I usually can handle it without leaking. Ultimately, at 10/10 I can feel muscle spasm and finally completely wet myself involuntarily. So, it's usually a full-blown wetting WITHOUT leaking on the way. - But if I continue the hold in the next day, that's when my bladder is very exhauseted. I can feel a VERY STRONG contraction even when I'm just 5/10. And that's when leaking happens. (This is my best part of the hold. Fighting the contraction until I inevitably leak is the best feeling in the world!!)

To clarify, on that time I did not drink only pure water. I mainly drank sports drink flavored water, and only for the amount specified in that thread. But that health effect still happened anyway.

If you ask me for a tip about rapid desperation, my only tip is DO NOT DO IT!! I used to do it several times, but has stopped since six years ago. That last time I drank too much water and was feeling nausea and headache for the next couple of days. (Luckily, there was no long-term effect after that.) With that being said, if you really, really want to do it, please drink various types of liquid (soda, tea, juice, etc.) and NOT just pure water. Drinking soup is probably the best, since it contains a lot of salt. You should also eat things during that period. And if you feel bloated or nausea, even the slightest, STOP IMMEDIATELY. You health is much more important.

When I'm fighting the bladder contraction ("the wave of pee").

Tomorrow I'll do my most exciting holding challenge so far. I plan to go to a hiking trail while wearing an expensive dress that I've never wet before (but prepared that I might wet it tomorrow!). As in my usual two-day holding pattern, today I did multiple holds, so my bladder will be very weak tomorrow, with a lot of "waves" coming. I plan to go to a hiking trail near my city. (It's an easy trail with just walking.) Journey to the trail takes 40-50 minutes, and the walk on the trail takes another 40-50 minutes. There is no toilet along the trail, except at the start and destination. Usually, it takes me around 1.5-3 hours to start to feel the waves, depending on how much I drink. So, if I plan my time correctly, walking on the trail will be the most enjoyable part, where I will be fighting the waves at all cost to reach the destination in time.