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  1. It totally depends on how exhausted my bladder is. Normally, I rarely leak unless I've been repeatedly doing the hold for several times to exhaust my bladder beforehand. - In the first hold of the day, I generally do not involuntarily leak or wet myself. I don't even feel the bladder contraction. It's only fullness and pain until I can't bear it and voluntarily release the pee. - In the second or third hold of the day, I can feel some bladder contraction (the so-called "wave of pee") when at 8/10, but I usually can handle it without leaking. Ultimately, at 10/10 I can feel muscle spasm and finally completely wet myself involuntarily. So, it's usually a full-blown wetting WITHOUT leaking on the way. - But if I continue the hold in the next day, that's when my bladder is very exhauseted. I can feel a VERY STRONG contraction even when I'm just 5/10. And that's when leaking happens. (This is my best part of the hold. Fighting the contraction until I inevitably leak is the best feeling in the world!!)
  2. To clarify, on that time I did not drink only pure water. I mainly drank sports drink flavored water, and only for the amount specified in that thread. But that health effect still happened anyway.
  3. If you ask me for a tip about rapid desperation, my only tip is DO NOT DO IT!! I used to do it several times, but has stopped since six years ago. That last time I drank too much water and was feeling nausea and headache for the next couple of days. (Luckily, there was no long-term effect after that.) With that being said, if you really, really want to do it, please drink various types of liquid (soda, tea, juice, etc.) and NOT just pure water. Drinking soup is probably the best, since it contains a lot of salt. You should also eat things during that period. And if you feel bloated or nausea, even the slightest, STOP IMMEDIATELY. You health is much more important.
  4. When I'm fighting the bladder contraction ("the wave of pee").
  5. Tomorrow I'll do my most exciting holding challenge so far. I plan to go to a hiking trail while wearing an expensive dress that I've never wet before (but prepared that I might wet it tomorrow!). As in my usual two-day holding pattern, today I did multiple holds, so my bladder will be very weak tomorrow, with a lot of "waves" coming. I plan to go to a hiking trail near my city. (It's an easy trail with just walking.) Journey to the trail takes 40-50 minutes, and the walk on the trail takes another 40-50 minutes. There is no toilet along the trail, except at the start and destination. Usually, it takes me around 1.5-3 hours to start to feel the waves, depending on how much I drink. So, if I plan my time correctly, walking on the trail will be the most enjoyable part, where I will be fighting the waves at all cost to reach the destination in time.
  6. Today I tried my holding, leaking, and wetting journey again, similar to my last week's hold, and got a similar result. One thing I wonder is that why is my bladder VERY, VERY psychological? It knows which situation is "unwettable at all cost" and which situation is "kinda wettable". And I'm talking about the bladder contraction (the so-called "wave of pee"). For me, each wave is normally about 1-2 minutes long, and about 10-15 minutes apart from each other. But it largely depends on the situation, for example: - The wave usually didn't come when I was in a place with many people, but usually came when I was at a seculded place with no one around. - When I entered a toilet stall, the wave just suddenly came out of nowhere. - The wave didn't come at all during the train ride, but hit strongly right at the moment the train reached my station, almost always resulting in leaking. (Even when the train rides were 15 min. and 30 min., the results were exacly the same!!, so it doesn't depend on time length.) - When I reached my room, the wave suddenly hit, almost always resulting in leaking. (There were two times when I entered my room, closed and locked the door, I just fully wet myself right there, behind the door, right at that second.) - On one time, I tried wearing an expensive dress that I didn't want to wet at all cost. When I came back to my room, I felt the wave about to come (as usual), but I didn't leak at all. I felt like I could delay it for a few seconds until I frantically undressed myself, then I began to leak after that. Does your bladder also act like this?
  7. I have dedicated omo clothes. My normal clothes are mostly plain; the omo clothes are the more fashionable ones.
  8. Depends on which friend. If she's an attractive female friend, I'd find a subtle way to delay her.
  9. Today I just had two "unplanned" wettings for the first time. Well, the whole situation was planned, but the planned situation was that I was trying to reach my destination, but inevitably wet myself on the way. (This was my first time doing this; in all of my previous wettings, I stayed at one place (either in my room or some semi-public place) and waited until I involuntarily wet myself.) As I mentioned before in this topic and this topic, I recently discovered the way to fully enjoy the bladder contraction ("wave of pee"). The key is to do multiple holds for two consecutive days. On the second day, my bladder would typically become very weak and sent waves of pee even when I had as few as 400 ml. I did three holds yesterday, and one this morning, so my bladder should become very weak, the perfect time for the plan! My plan today was that I would take a 15-minute walk from my university dorm to the train station, take a 30-minute train ride to the city center, have a dinner and some shopping for clothes there, then take the train back and walk back to my dorm. (I knew my bladder well that it was VERY psychological; I should be fine during the train ride, but the 15-minute walk back would be the BEST part of the plan -- I would definitely leak, or even better, fully wet on the way.) First Wetting It was 6.30pm. My last pee was around 5pm, and now I was already feeling half-full. I wondered if it was too much and whether should I pee again before leaving, but ultimately decided against it. (Oh, silly me!) I got dressed with a red jumper, a pair of jeans shorts, and black tights. After getting dressed, the first wave of pee hit me. It was very strong, and I had to shove my hands into my crotch for a while until it subsided. After that, I started walking from my dorm. About 5 minutes later, I was in front of my university and was waiting for a traffic light to cross the road. Suddenly, a second wave hit, much stronger than the first one. It caused me to leak, and I began to leak periodically. I knew for sure that I couldn't reach the train station, let alone the city center. I turned back and dashed into the university, dripping pee all the way. I found a secluded corner with no one around, and as soon as I reached there, my pee totally gushed out of me unstoppably until I was near empty. The feeling was amazing!! I was having the first "unplanned" accident in my life. Luckily, my tights absorbed all the pee, so almost nothing was shown on my shorts. I walked back to my dorm to clean myself up. Second Wetting After showering and putting on new clothes (of the same type), it was 7pm, and I was ready to resume the same plan. This time I was too lazy to walk, so I got on my bike and rode to the train station. The train ride, the dinner, and the shopping went uneventful. I didn't even feel the urge yet. The extra thing was that I had to buy new "omo panties". (Due to what happened earlier, I ran out of clean omo panties; I was currently wearing non-omo ones which I didn't want to wet.) After I bought them, I got into the toilet to get changed. And I've told you that my bladder was VERY psychological. As soon as I entered the stall, the first wave of pee suddenly hit me out of nowhere. It was so strong that I leaked several drops. (Luckily, I got undressed just in time before that.) It took about a minute of leg-crossing and shoving my hands into my crotch for the wave to subside. After that, I cleaned myself up and changed into the new panties I just bought. After the first wave passed, I was perfectly fine again, not even feeling a slight urge or fullness at all, so I guessed I should walk around the city center for a while before going back. After some 15-20 minutes, I felt a funny feeling in my tummy. It was like a feeling of tightness and something very gently pushing my tummy in a small area. From my experience, this was a signal that the next wave was about to come. And as soon as I walked into an area with no people around, the second wave hit me, making me have to cross my legs. Luckily, it subsided after about a minute with no leaking. After the second wave passed, I got on the train. As expected, the train ride was relatively fine. I didn't feel any wave at all during most of the ride. But during the last three minutes of the ride, I began to feel the familiar funny feeling in my tummy again. My bladder knew too much!! As soon as the train reached my station, the third wave started. I had to clench my muscle while walking down the station, trying not to leak. As soon as I got out of the station, I began to leak. I leaked again and again all the way during a 1-minute walk to where I parked my bike. There were several people around, but the leaks wasn't shown on my shorts, and it was dark outside anyway. Then, I got on my bike. Sitting on the bike helped pushing it down a lot, so the leak stopped. During the bike ride, I could not stop the bike at all; if I got off my bike, I would probably leak again. About 5 minutes later, I reached my university. During the night, my university was quite a secluded place with almost no one around, in contrary to the outside of it. And my bladder knew that too!! As soon as I entered my university, the wave hit me again, and I started to leak again, despite me sitting on the bike. After a few seconds, I knew I couldn't resist it anymore. I turned my bike into a secluded corner and stopped. And my pee was fully gushing out of me, all over my bike. I peed right there for about 10 seconds until I was near empty. It felt soooo amazing!!!
  10. Imagine if you are stuck in a place with no toilet (e.g. traffic jam) with your partner / your crush, or someone attractive you're interested in. Which of these choices is the best omo scenario for you that could possibly happen? 1. Who needs to pee? A. Both of you need to pee. B. Only they need to pee. C. Only you need to pee. 2. In that situation, who are you with? A. Only you two alone. B. With a small group of friends or people you know. C. In public, with a large number of strangers. 3. What is the best ending for you/them? A. Made it to the toilet dry. B. Made it to the toilet, but with some visible leaks. C. Peed into a container. D. Peed outside. E. Fully wetting. F. Others (please specify). For me, 1. Definitely A! Double desperation is double excitement! I'll know her feeling exactly. Plus we'll have something common to talk about, and she'll be more likely to share the details of her predicament. 2. I prefer A. But C is not bad, if we have a semi-private space. 3. While E is the most exciting choice, it seems to harsh for her. I prefer B, C, and D, which seem like semi-happy endings, given that it happens the same way to both of us. The ideal scenario is probably the combination of B and C - some leaks and then peeing into a container.
  11. First, I think 500 ml is the average volume when people "really need to pee", not the absolute maximum capacity right before wetting themselves. I believe only few people would hold until that point during the experiment. I've seen multiple posts on the (non-omo) forums about people who were desperate to pee to the point that they started leaking (e.g. in a traffic jam), then peed into a container for "almost a litre". Some even mentioned the exact amount (around 800-1000). This supports my hypothesis that the average real capacity should be around 800-1000 ml. Second, Frequent holding helps increase the capacity, so it's natural that omo people tend to have above average capacity. In my first serious holding a decade ago, my capacity was 860 (which should be totally average). Then, after a few holds, it increased to 1000. After a decade, my capacity is now 1240.
  12. Why has the font size displayed in the list of topics (in a forum) become much smaller today? Is there a new update? It's very hard to read. And is there an option to manually change the font size? Note: It seems to affect only nighttime theme. In daytime theme, the font size is still the same.
  13. It's like exercising. In long term, it strengthens your bladder. And I can comfirm this by my personal experience. Ten years ago, my capacity was around 900-1000 ml, but now my capacity is around 1100-1200. But in short term, if you do multiple consecutive holds, your bladder will get temporarily weakened.
  14. Very interesting topic. I have developed my own desperation scale of 1-5 (similar to yours, but skipping the 0). Level 1: "No need to pee" - not feeling the urge to pee Level 2: "Need to pee a little" - feeling a slight urge to pee If I'm at home and have nothing else to do, I might go to the toilet. If I'm outside with friends and they go the toilet, I'll probably take the chance to go as well. Level 3: "Need to pee" - feeling a moderate urge to pee If I'm at home, I'm very likely to go to the toilet at this point. If I'm outside alone, I'll start to go searching for the toilet. If I'm with friends at a place where toilets are convenient (e.g. a shopping mall), I'll probably ask them to visit the toilet next. Level 4: "Need to pee a lot" - feeling a strong urge to pee This is the first level that I might start to show some physical signs of needing to pee, if someone is closely observing me. At this point, I have to go out of my way to ask for the toilet e.g. asking a friend to make a rest stop if we're on a car trip and won't reach the destination soon. Level 5: "Desperate to pee" - feeling pain and fullness in the bladder If I'm standing or walking, I'll show visible physical signs that are obvious even to those who are not closing observing me (e.g. having to bend down a little bit). For several years, I've done the experiments of measuring the pee volume at each level. And the results (for myself) are: Level 1: less than 100 ml Level 2: 100-300 ml Level 3: 300-550 ml Level 4: 550-700 ml Level 5: more than 700 ml For references, my maximum volume record is around 1200 ml.
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