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  1. As a woman: I definitely stand like that sometimes because it is more comfortable sometimes. Especially if its cold, crossing arms and legs can help keep me warm. However, I also rely on the fact that a lot of women just stand (or sit) with legs crossed naturally, to hide the fact that I often really need to pee (small bladder, well hydrated...) So your imagination is probably right at least some of the time
  2. My answer is biased by being pretty young and never having had children. When I'm really desperate for the first time in a while, its not so much that the muscles are giving in, but my resolve to keep holding will weaken and I'll start leaking. Imagine holding a difficult yoga position and your control wavers a bit and you nearly fall, but you correct yourself. It's like that. If I'm doing several holds in a row, my muscles will get fatigued after a while. I'll start leaking far sooner than I normally would, and I'm less able to course correct, so eventually it will just be a constant slow trickle out of me. I've never experienced a total loss of control if I was really trying to hold it in. The closest is a bunch of small leaks, and then eventually giving in and releasing it all because there isn't any point in trying to keep it in.
  3. I've personally never had an issue walking this line because, while I like to hold in public, I don't really like people knowing I have to pee. I don't like having to excuse myself to the restroom, I don't like being fidgety where people can see me, I don't like people knowing where I'm going. Now, I drink a lot of water, and have a pretty small bladder, so I do end up getting desperate more often than some people, although I try to hide it as much as I can. I have a coworker who does the same thing, and she'll often tell me when she needs to pee, even if we don't have the chance to go right away. ("I should have peed before the meeting!" or "I've had to pee for hours" or "I have to pee SO bad" are all common things to hear from her.) I don't think she has a piss kink, girls just tell each other stuff like that. When I worked in a customer facing role, I often had to direct people to the bathroom, and had a lot of people visibly desperate and sometimes even vocally desperate ("Can I use your restroom? I have to pee really bad!" etc). So it's plausible to be desperate in public, and to sometimes voice your desperation to certain people. If you're female, it's probably fine to tell a female friend or coworker who you're close to. It's probably fine to mention it to an employee as long as you're not being too horny about saying it. I think as long as you're not being obscene about it or making a show of it, it's fine to be desperate in public. If you're standing in line fidgeting or shifting foot to foot that's one thing, if you're full on pee dancing at register 6, that's not really cool. If you are asking to be let in somewhere to pee ("Could you unlock the bathroom? It's an emergency") that's fine, if you go on and on about it ("Please let me go potty, my bladder is throbbing, its about to come running down my legs!") that's not really appropriate. In general if it's something that you could see your 38 year old vanilla coworker Stacey (who has 3 kids and goes to church every Sunday) doing without batting an eye, it's probably fine.
  4. If you want to be a writer, you should DEFINITELY also be a reader, and you should read things that are not omo fic. You cannot learn to write properly from erotica. Read real, published works. Read a variety of works from different genres and time periods. Read fiction and nonfiction. You'll notice different writing styles and uses of dialogue. Shakespeare is going to read differently than Douglas Adams is going to read differently than Jane Austen is going to read differently than Sally Rooney. If you are a good writer, you have more room to play with style. If you are a beginning writer, you should probably stick with convention. (Personally, I find Rooney's writing is not good enough to take away from her unconventional dialogue style.) If you have a native language other than English, and intend to write in English, I would suggest reading works published in English to familiarize yourself with the conventional style. Ok here are some thoughts on style and punctuation. I'm not a grammar or style expert by ANY means, but I've read a lot of published fiction so I'm familiar with conventional styles. I think you should never use the second style you mentioned ("Mia: I have to pee") unless it's something that is meant to be formatted as a script, or something that is meant to be formatted as digital communication. I think a conversation formatted like this would work: Describing a text or IM conversation doesn't have centuries of convention the way normal dialogue does, so you have a little more room to play. This is a style I've seen used that I think is effective enough if you need to include digital communication. Otherwise, the whole "Mia: I have to pee" style is definitely going to confuse people in most fics. HOWEVER. I see you are writing fic based off a video game, and video game dialogue is usually styled like "Mia: I have to pee" so I understand the impulse. In this case, I think you should do what works for your story. Generally, with fanfics, I think it can be good to emulate the style of the original work as much as possible. For a Harry Potter fanfic, use traditional dialogue tags. For a video game fanfic, this style might work just fine. While we're on the topic, I just want to remind any newer writers of the conventional style of writing dialogue. Generally, you want a mix of styles 1 and 2 mentioned in the original comment. I see a lot of the same mistakes over and over so I just want to point them out for anyone who doesn't know (OP, this is not aimed at you) If you have some thing like: You don't need to use dialogue tags ("he said"/"she said") every single time. If the context makes it clear who's speaking, you can have the dialogue stand on its own. You can also make it clear who is speaking by adding action or description to the dialogue: Another important note is that, regardless of style, you should always start a new paragraph when a new person starts talking or if the subject of conversation changes. If not, it all runs together, like this: Compare that to the above section where each line of dialogue is given its own line. If your work is dialogue heavy, it gives a lot of blank space, but that makes it easier for the reader. However, if the same person is talking about the same topic, you can keep it in the same paragraph. I see a lot of common mistakes in amateur erotica/fanfic related to punctuating dialogue, so I'm going to give some examples of what's right and what isn't. First of all, your dialogue tag ("she said") doesn't have to use "said", but it does have to be a speaking action, otherwise it gets its own sentence. "I have to pee," whispered Mia. She crossed her legs. <-- This is correct. The dialogue tag is a speaking action (whispered), and the nonspeaking action (crossed her legs) gets its own sentence. "I have to pee," mumbled Mia, crossing her legs. <-- This is correct. The dialogue tag is a speaking action (mumbled), and the nonspeaking action (crossing her legs) gets its own dependent clause. "I have to pee." She crossed her legs. <-- This is correct. The dialogue tag is absent, but you don't need to have one every time. The nonspeaking action gets its own sentence. "I have to pee," she crossed her legs. <-- This is INCORRECT. You don't need a dialogue tag, but the nonspeaking action needs to be its own sentence. Another thing: In fiction, the punctuation always goes inside the quotation. If it's the end of the sentence, it gets a period, question mark, or an exclamation point. If the sentence continues with dialogue tags or further clauses, use a comma. "I have to pee," said Mia. <-- Correct, the dialogue has a comma inside the quotation. "Can you hold it?" asked John. <-- Correct, the dialogue has a question mark inside the quotation. "Not much longer." <-- Correct, the dialogue has a period inside the quotation to indicate the end of a sentence. "I have to pee" said Mia. <-- Incorrect, the dialogue is missing a comma. "I have to pee." said Mia. <-- Incorrect, the period inside the quotation indicates the end of the sentence, but the sentence continues. "Can you hold it"? asked John. <-- Incorrect, the question mark should go inside of the quote. I know this was super long but I think it's relevant to the discussion, since I see a lot of writers on here who don't seem to know these rules. I hope this helps someone out there.
  5. I think it comes down to the demographic of the site we're using. As @Ethi observed, this site is disproportionately made up of straight men and LGBT people who prefer female content. Male desperation content just isn't going to get as much traction here. @j2319 to answer your question, AO3 is short for Archive Of Our Own which is a website that hosts fanfiction. Sites like AO3 and Tumblr are disproportionately made up of women and LGBT people who prefer male content. (If you've ever been on these sites you've seen firsthand the prevalence of M/M shipping content on both sites.) Of course there are some people on here who prefer male content, and there are some on AO3 who prefer female content, but on both sites it seems like those audiences are vastly in the minority.
  6. As a woman this is a huge fantasy. My partner and I don't do any omo play but I love when he puts his hands down my pants (or often, up my skirt) to feel how wet I am (wet as in aroused, not leaking!) He'll stroke and tease me through the fabric of my panties, it drives me crazy. I would love to have him do that when I'm bursting. I've never been with a woman, but if I ever got the opportunity, I'd love to be on the opposite end of this as well. There's something about wet panties that is just... amazing, whether it's wet from arousal or from pee.
  7. I've done the gallon of water in one day before. She's not exaggerating, it really is every 30ish minutes. Oftentimes I would force myself to wait even the 30 minutes. The first few glasses feel really nice going down, but after a while your body hits peak hydration and it doesn't even feel good to keep drinking that much water. I feel like Paul Newman trying to eat 50 eggs in an hour in Cool Hand Luke, I'm just forcing water down my throat. After that it's like a constant drip from my kidneys into my bladder, and even as I finish peeing I can feel my bladder starting to fill up again. Even forcing myself to wait 30 minutes between bathroom visits, I had a full bladder every time I went. It's the same principle behind Rapid Desperation- except you're doing it all. day. long. I can't imagine doing it all day every day. I do it once every few months when I'm preparing to donate blood. (Usually the day before I have a donation appointment.) It keeps you well hydrated into the next day as well, even if you drink a normal amount the next day.
  8. Another niche I would love to see more content for is good romance (with the aforementioned good erotica), as well as stories about couples engaging in omo play. Whether they just discovered an interest in it, or one member of the couple finally admits to liking it and the other tries it, or they've been playing in this space a long time, I think it would be interesting to see stories set in those kinds of relationships. I think you get more of this in the omutsu section, (which I have browsed out of curiousity but have little interest in), because of the caregiver dynamic, but you don't see much of this in omo stories. Are there other niches or topics that you think really lack content?
  9. Thanks all for the great responses! I love these kinds of discussions, it's so cool how everyone has different tastes. Curious, what makes a title "clickbaity" on this site? Also, I agree and have noticed the same. Even 5-10 years ago I feel like I remember finding a lot of well-written, well thought out stories. Now if you look at the fiction section it seems to be overwhelmingly short stories, a lot of which feel like they have... a bit less thought put into them, I will say. And the short stories really do seem to get a lot of interaction, regardless of the writing quality. I don't want to pass judgement on those stories or those writers, clearly they have an audience so they must be doing something right! But I definitely prefer a story that feels more... fleshed out? has more thought put into it? I agree, I definitely prefer stories that are more fleshed out and have a grounded world outside of omo. It feels more believable. I have to credit @Mbgpeelover and her wonderful story "Anything to confess?" with getting me signed up for this site in the first place. I lurked for years and finally made an account to comment on her story. But I also wonder how much most people on here are interested in the character/plot side of stories, or if most just skim through. This is a really interesting thought. I've heard the same about books like Harry Potter, and I think it comes down to the fact that (especially with fiction) a writer's tendency to be too wordy can really bog things down and take away from the story. In fact I think it actually takes a lot more effort and skill to take a story with complex ideas and simplify the wording, so that it's easy to breeze through, while still conveying the complexity of the ideas. In my academic writing I use a site called hemingwayapp.com which analyzes your text for complexity and grade reading level. A lot of famous authors (like Hemingway) wrote at an elementary reading level, but still managed to convey really complex ideas. I'm currently working on a story that I hope to post here at some point, and the Hemingway Editor told me it was a 3rd grade reading level. I don't think that means my writing is dumb, or that I'm uneducated, but it does tell me my text is accessible. This is getting off topic, but I do agree with some of your fears about social media making everything shorter. I am in my early 20s (so elder gen Z). I was the last class in my elementary school to get cursive writing instruction, and one of the last classes to get a computer class. I greatly fear for the next generation, even those 5-10 years younger than me. Apparently, there are now children entering kindergarten who have severely underdeveloped hand muscles because they spent so much time pressing buttons on a pad rather than actually playing with real toys and developing fine motor skills. I like this philosophy a lot. I'm writing to fill a niche- no one on here has written the exact story I've been wanting to read, so I'm writing it for myself. And if no one likes it or wants to read it, that's fine, because I'm writing with myself as the primary audience in mind. Personally I think there is a dearth of good erotica that also has good omo. This site really has very little in the way of well written sex scenes. On the other hand, erotica sites rarely have well written omo.
  10. This exactly. I have no patience for it. I do rapid desperation if I want to have some fun.
  11. Hey all, I have some questions for those of you who frequent the fiction section of this site. (I figured it was better to put this in the general discussion section, since it's not actually a story thread.) We've been doing a lot of polls lately and I'm curious to get people's opinions specifically on written fiction content. What criteria do you use to decide which story to read or which title to click? Once you've opened a thread, what makes you decide to keep reading? What causes you to look for something else? Is there anything that is an immediate "nope" for you, that causes you to close a thread you were otherwise enjoying? How long will you give a story a chance when it starts out rather dry (literally and metaphorically?) Is there a topic or niche you'd like to see more of in fiction on here, that doesn't usually get a lot of focus? Is there a topic or cliche that gets a lot of focus that you'd like to see less of? Are you opposed to reading stories that have explicit sexual content? What about stories that have a heavy plot, with omo/wetting content dispersed throughout? How long do you like stories to be? Does the length at all determine whether you'll start a story?
  12. OP I hope you don't mind me kind of hijacking this thread to discuss anatomy, but I feel this is a question worth answering. I'm going to post some Anatomy 101 stuff, a lot of which I'm sure you know, but maybe you or someone else reading this will benefit from it, so I'm going to post it. Also, I'm including some anatomical diagrams, but putting it under a spoiler just in case. If you look at a diagram of female anatomy (and you should, if you're not 100% familiar with what I'm talking about) the clitoris is above the urethral opening. So the act of peeing (no matter how much pressure there is) isn't rubbing the clitoris, because it comes out below the clit. But take a look at this diagram. The outlines you see represent the vulva (outside parts). Note that the vulva is the outside part and the vagina is the inside part, these are two different things! The vagina is INSIDE. the outer parts that you see are NOT the vagina. It's important to me that you know this. All you see from the outside is the vaginal opening. The vaginal opening is connected to the uterus, so this is where menstrual fluid/tissue come out. This is also where babies come out, and where penetrative sex happens. Also note that there are two holes/openings: the vaginal opening is at the bottom, the urethral opening is right above it. Women DO NOT pee from the vagina! They are two different holes. I've read some fiction on here, presumably written by young men, that refers to a woman peeing from, or holding, her vagina. So I feel that it needs to be clarified. The pale blue shapes you see behind the outline of the vulva are depictions of the inner structure/body of the clitoris. The only part you can really see is the glans/clitoral hood. These are analogous to the glans of the penis and the foreskin. So the clitoris has a vast internal structure inside the body. The glans (the part you can see/touch) is, literally, just the tip! The clitoris is actually considered female erectile tissue, because it becomes "erect"/swollen with sexual arousal. For trans men who are assigned female at birth, if they choose to start taking testosterone, the clit actually grows quite a bit and becomes effectively a small penis that can get visibly erect. Male and female sex organs are not so different from each other. Pressures inside the body can stimulate the clitoris. The "G Spot" along the roof of the vagina is actually connected to part of the internal structure of the clitoris, it's just a different area. The connection between the urinary system and the female sex organs is a little harder to find information on, so full disclosure that I'm basing this next bit off of largely anecdotal evidence. It feels to me that pressure in the urethra can stimulate the internal parts of the clitoris. Please refer to the first diagram- it would NOT stimulate the outer part/glans, AT ALL. But internal stimulation is definitely possible, I think. I also find that vaginal stimulation, especially on the roof of the vagina, puts pressure on the bladder/urethra, kind of pressing it from below. Again, this is anecdotal evidence. For me, and I have to assume for other cis women, the sensation of building sexual arousal is somewhat similar to the sensation of a growing need to pee. The each build to a release, either orgasm or peeing. The nerves are all so close together that it really feels like they are connected. Think about when your dick is so hard that it almost hurts, because there's so much pressure there due to all the blood, and you're just desperate for a (sexual) release- women get that feeling too. (see the second diagram, it isn't hard to imagine!) And for me, that feeling of pressure/desire for release that comes with sexual arousal feels very similar to the feeling of pressure/desire for release that comes with a strong need to pee. The release when peeing does NOT stimulate the clitoris, but it still feels really good, in the same way that it would for a man. I hope that clears some of this up for you. If you want more information about female anatomy or how to please a woman, I recommend the book Come as You Are by Emily Nagoski. (Very helpful info in there for both men and women!) I know there are a lot of young people lurking on this site who are really too young to be here, and I know a lot of bad info about women's anatomy gets spread through porn/lack of access to quality sexual education, so I guess this post is an attempt to combat that. I hope this post doesn't take away from the main topic of the thread too much, and I still hope to see more responses from straight women about their preferences when it comes to male omo.
  13. I imagine I could enjoy some of this, too. It's a natural bodily function but also quite intimate. It could be very romantic. Like, we eat together, we shower together, we brush our teeth together, we pee together, etc. As just another aspect of a relationship. The intimacy and romance are very appealing but it would be harder to make content about that. In my original response I was thinking more about "omo = desperation and wetting", in which case I have almost zero interest in male omo, but if we say "omo = anything pee related" then yes, there's a lot to be said for the intimacy and romance of sharing bodily functions in a relationship. I'm very curious to read more replies and I hope more women do answer, but given the recent poll it seems like not a lot of heterosexual women browse this site.
  14. Honestly, as a bi female with a male partner, there is very little I find appealing about male omo content. I want a dominant male partner who is in control of both himself and whatever situation we're in, so that I can trust him enough to give control of myself over to him. Things like wetting and desperation are submissive or vulnerable in nature and not attractive (TO ME) for a man. That being said, if I had a male partner who was willing, I'd like to try some more watersports type of activities. I am so fascinated by the way men can just "whip it out" and aim. I've always wanted to hold a partner's dick and aim it. I also wouldn't be opposed to a male partner, ahem, "marking his territory" (me). There are a few omo related r/gonewildaudio clips I've found on reddit that I've enjoyed, from a dominant male performer speaking to a submissive female listener about her inability to hold it, and either roleplaying punishing her for it, or encouraging her to let go, etc. I don't want to speak for ALL women on this site, but this is my perspective. We could really get into gender politics here, and talk about how men are often seen as the actors during sex, whereas women are objects being acted upon, but that's probably a conversation for another thread. Regardless, my preferences for omo content (and erotic content, and my sex life in general) line up with that pretty well.
  15. Wow, this is some cool insight. I didn't realize so many in this community had such little interest in just sex. For the sake of conversation I'll add my perspective. Personally, I'm not a fan of intercourse/penetrative sex, but only because vaginal stimulation doesn't do much for me. (I think this is true for a lot of cis women, but most cis women who are partnered with cis men will have intercourse with him even if she greatly prefers clitoral stimulation) I could go my whole life without incorporating omo or watersports into bedroom activities, and I likely will. I have what most people would consider a normal sex life, just with more of a focus on external stimulation than internal. For me, an interest in holding/desperation started around the onset of puberty because for me the sensation is very similar to sexual arousal (I've discussed this more in another comment you could find in my post history) and since then my interest in these topics and activities kind of stuck around in the background. I also find a lot of concepts related to BDSM very intriguing, although IRL I haven't attempted much. Nowadays any omo fantasies I have are largely intersected with, or an extension of, BDSM fantasies. (Things like being tied up and forced to wet, because you would rather wet yourself than be disobedient, which is more about obedience than wetting. Or giving bladder control to a dominant partner, which is more about submission than wetting. You get the picture.) Still, when I want erotic content, I largely turn to this site. I get plenty of regular sex, and some light D/s, in my relationship, so I don't have a need to seek those things out, whereas if I want anything harder or wetter I have to supplement it by myself, hence my involvement on this site. I also go through phases of intense interest followed by weeks or months of forgetting about it completely, so it's definitely not a lifestyle for me.
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