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a little odd to see it just cease to exist. shame.

When I posted, there were no other messages. My best guess is that there is some sort of hold on brand new member messages until they get screened by a mod, or something like that. Both those other accounts are basically brand new, while mine is not.

An interesting enough start for sure. Feel free to share more, I'm sure there are interested parties on the site who would read it. I also didn't mention it on your other post, since I tend to lurk and not respond, but I appreciated that story as well. Was nice to see that type of thing end without someone trapped forever in their own mind. Some really like that type of ending, and I've seen plenty of stories that indulge it, but I'm more of an ending where things work out for involved parties, since the real world is depressing enough as is. But I digress. Consider at least one person interested in reading what you've made.

now if we could get a translation of what is being said, that would be pretty legit.

it was. you can see the timestamp of the last post was october 11, 2018.

YOU'RE deluded, because you keep thinking for some stupid ass reason that I'm associating Nazis with anything other than Nazis. I didn't call your mother a Nazi. I didn't call your favored political party a Nazi. I called people flying Swastikas Nazis. You need to seriously consider why you are convinced this means I'm talking about other, non-Nazi groups. Also I'm not advocating for violence against people for just speaking, I'm advocating that violence against groups who are advocating for genocide is something I'm fine with, especially in countries where there aren't laws banning Nazi symbols or Holocause denial such as Canada or the USA. You can think that violence is going too far, and that's fine, that's a reasonable opinion that can be discussed civilly. To be honest I'd rather they be thrown in jail now that I've spent some time thinking on it. But let's be real fucking clear here: Someone waving a Nazi flag or "speaking" about Nazi values IS violent intent. It is saying "I think mass murdering jews and homosexuals and anyone else I deem undesirable is a good thing." I do think that Nazis should not exist. "Nazis are bad" should not be a controversial take, and the fact that you seem to be up in arms about said take speaks to your character. Also saying "it's a known fact that agent provocateurs exist" is actual conspiracy theory bullshit, and serves as another good indicator that you are not arguing in good faith. The only group for which that nonsense is "well known fact" is the group of people who get their "facts" from facebook groups, breitbart, and 4chan. When speaking about USA Law, then you are correct. All Hate Speech is legally protected free speech there according to a 2017 supreme court ruling, which means the Government is not allowed to make laws to arrest Nazis, unfortunately. This does not speak to whether that is "right" or not, nor does it protect Nazis from legal consequences from the private sector, such as being made an outcast or getting fired from their jobs. And no, the first amendment does not protect them from being fired, and federal anti-discrimination laws do not include protections for political affiliation. And yes, I'm aware that punching a Nazi is against the law. I would be very interested to see if a Jury would successfully convict someone for that. Reminds me of the time a Nazi got punched on camera in downtown Seattle in 2017, and no arrest was made. When asked, the Seattle police said that no one reported a crime, so no investigation.

Holy shit. You are defending actual Nazis. With Swastikas. And Nazi Flags. You need to reconsider who needs to be gotten through to. It's hilarious, honestly. I didn't even say Republicans are Nazis. Or Conservatives are Nazis. Or any sort of "X are Nazis." I stated that I have a problem with...Nazis. Actual fucking Nazis. So when you say "99% of people you accuse of being [a Nazi] aren't", it's a bit odd since I have accused actually no one of being a Nazi during this conversation. Unless are you suggesting that people who call themselves Nazis, wave flags with actual swastikas around, and subscribe to white supremacy are somehow not, in fact, Nazis? They seem to think they are. And yet for some reason, you feel the need to defend them from "slander" from the "far left." How strange. Stop defending Nazis. It's not a good look. By the way, that quote is from the Old Testament (Hosea 8:7) which is definitely not a "historical figure." It's actually a book that Nazis wanted to ban in Germany around 1933, fun fact. Man this thread needs to be locked.

That's a non-problem. I'm not discussing randos on the internet calling people they don't like Nazis. I'm discussing disgusting excuses for human beings on Ottawa waving around flags with swastikas and advocating for white supremacy. And I'd argue that allowing them to show their flags or publicly speak about their views is not something that should be tolerated. It certainly isn't in multiple European countries. Reminds me of a story that's been passed around the internet, starting from this tweet here about how, if a bar tolerates 1 Nazi who is acting peaceful and nice enough, they bring their friends who are also Nazis, and they bring theirs, and once they have a majority they stop acting so nice but it's too late, you're a Nazi bar now. But yea I get it, you can't just go running around vigilante killing Nazis, even if you confirm that they're the real deal first. But if they're out their waving flags and pushing their viewpoints on the public, then if they get decked for it they deserve it. Aight. Well "I'm cool with Genocide" is the fucking worst 'political view' to be defending. Also for the record I think that trying to declare "Anti fascists" as a terrorist group is like trying to declare "fascists" as a terrorist group, or liberals, or conservatives. These aren't organizations (vs the Republican or Democratic Parties, which are actual organizations with set members and leaders), these are political stances. When fox news tells you that "Antifa" is doing something, there's no actual organization they're talking about. They're attempting to scare you with a political bogeyman, and clearly it's working.

Not if it's against actual Nazis. When you decide that the thing you want to support is actual fucking genocide, then you deserve any beatings you get. This is the issue with "both sides" bullshit. Being conservative is one thing. If the political opinion you are brandishing is something like "I think abortion is bad" or "I think we shouldn't tax the rich companies" or whatever, then that's different. I think you're wrong, but I'm willing to talk about it. When your opinion is "I think these Nazi guys were alright. You know, the ones who killed 6 million jews, 6 million soviet citizens, 1.7 million polish citizens, and many more, all for the crime of being Jewish/LGBQT/not Aryan enough/a political enemy. I'm gonna wave their flag around!" then there can be no discussion. Waving that flag and supporting those views, should not, CAN not be tolerated. A tolerant society must not tolerate intolerance, and certainly should not harbor those that are so intolerant that they resort to mass murder.

You mean this thing we already have in the download section?