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  1. SarahRe

    My First Urinal Attempt!!

    That's okay! You know it's possible, and you've already had some success. You're way ahead of where most people are. I'm sure you're gonna get there eventually. Oh, I know! We had two cats when I was growing up. (And you're right about the judging. They give you those looks sometimes, and you just know.) Now that I think about it, I actually don't know why I said I wouldn't have had the self-control at that age. It's not as if my self-control on this particular thing would be any better now, right? I guess this wouldn't be surprising at all if the bathroom was one where the urinals had the little divider walls, or where they're laid out in some other way that makes it hard to see anything. I obviously have no idea if that's how it would tend to be in an airport or not—maybe someone on here who's been in more airport men's bathrooms than I have (my total: zero) can tell us. Of course, if that was the case, then maybe your dad had already been in there at some point and knew you wouldn't see much. I could see how maybe a dad might take that sort of thing into account with his daughter. Mine seems like the type who might have, if this situation had ever come up. So, what actually happened is that at around age 8—or maybe 9, I'm not sure—I realized that when I peed standing up, without touching myself or anything, it just sort of... worked. My pee came out forward enough that I could just pull my pants down and go in the toilet that way. I don't remember for sure if everything stayed completely dry down there (it probably didn't), but I definitely wasn't making a big mess or having it run all down my legs or anything. Given how much I've obsessed over this stuff my whole life, you would probably think that I must very clearly remember the first time that I tried this. But to be honest, I don't. I think it was probably in the shower. That would kind of make sense—if that's what happened, then I wouldn't have been "trying to pee standing" (which would have been memorable) but just "deciding it was okay to pee in the shower instead of getting out or holding it" (which might not have been). Maybe I peed in the shower more than once before realizing that my stream was coming out in the way that it was. I don't really remember for sure. I do have a very clear memory from about that age of showing off this ability to my mom (in the toilet), expecting her to be impressed. She was not impressed. But the second part of the story is that I eventually started having problems with my original method (if you can even call it that) of just pulling my pants down and going. A few years later, I began to occasionally kind of spray or dribble a little, or it would come out at a different angle than usual. That began to happen a lot more often, and then there were also a few times when I made a big mess—like going all down my legs and in my pants, to the point that I'd have to stop peeing, turn around, and sit down before I made it any worse. (Fortunately, I don't remember any big messes ever happening when I was at school or out in public somewhere.) I was so upset. I cried about this multiple times. It was like the universe had done a software update, and the bug that allowed me to pee standing as a girl had been corrected. But I decided that at the very least, I wanted to figure out what had happened, even if I couldn't fix it. Obviously I knew I was having some changes with my body down there, but I didn't realize any of them were going to affect peeing. (In hindsight, it's very clear what happened: my inner lips had gotten a little bigger and were getting in the way. But that wasn't clear to me at the time.) So I decided I was gonna start intentionally peeing in the shower whenever possible and just feeling and playing around down there until I figured out what was going on. Peeing all over my hands seemed gross to me at the time, but I decided I didn't care. And the very first time I felt around while I peed, at some point mid-pee, I guess I sort of spread in the right way, just in trying to diagnose the problem—and my pee suddenly started coming out in a thin, perfectly neat stream, even neater than it did with my old "hands-free" method. I definitely remember that moment very clearly. Now, to be fair, it probably took another couple of pees to figure out how to successfully reproduce what I'd figured out. So I don't think it would be right to say that I "got it on the first try" or anything. And then it still took a lot more practice after that to figure out how to lift the stream up a little, how to aim it left and right, and (especially) how to go without pulling my pants all the way down. But I do think I felt pretty confident after the first try that it was at least going to be possible. Hey, I can't blame him. Peeing on walls is a lot of fun, especially if you can see the wet spot you're leaving. Probably better to stick to the outdoor walls, though. Actually, if you're gonna pee in somebody's closet, you might as well make it somebody else's closet. That's good advice to live by. I think Abraham Lincoln said that. Yeah, I think it would have really bothered me too. Kinda inconsiderate that he was so worried about you looking at him and didn't seem to realize that you were probably also kinda embarrassed too and might have been worried about him looking at you. I know there exist brothers and sisters who don't care about privacy, but I just don't get that at all. Well, I guess I don't know for sure how I'd feel because I didn't have a brother, but I don't think I'd have wanted my hypothetical brother looking at me naked. I was actually watching a movie not too long ago where a guy comes home and finds his sister in his apartment taking a shower. And the sister just pulls the shower curtain back and stands there completely naked having an extended conversation with her brother. It was kind of shocking and weird, but I guess that may have been the point of the scene. Or is that more common than I think it is?
  2. There exist pictures of this guy that are, um, explicit. I'm not linking them here, but they exist.
  3. I've done literally the exact same thing with that site, including using the AROUND() operator. It's too bad that you and I didn't get in touch with each other years ago, because we've probably been unknowingly duplicating each other's work to a large extent in terms of finding the kind of content that we're both interested in. (I know our interests don't exactly line up, but they're pretty similar.)
  4. That site seems to be a gold mine for the kinds of stories like you've posted above, but I assume you already know that. The frustrating thing about that site for me is that the vast majority of the stories and discussion on there are about... um... a topic that isn't peeing. And I personally find that other topic to be extremely disgusting. (I'm not judging people who might be into that, but I very much am not.) I don't know why I feel that way, but I do, and I feel very strongly about it. To what extent have you scoured that site for the kinds of stories that you (or I) might be interested in? If not for all of the content about the, um, other topic, I probably would have spent more time trying to skim through the vast amount of material on there, but it's hard to want to do that when most of what I'm skimming is stuff that I find super gross. (And yes, I've done some targeted searches of that domain name using Google for various key words and phrases, but I'm sure that I've missed a lot of good stuff.)
  5. SarahRe

    My First Urinal Attempt!!

    Eh. Not really, or at least not the second half. I don't really think anybody would ever describe me as a "girly." Like I said in my very first post, I could probably pass for a rather long-haired teenage boy at first glance without any dramatic modifications to my typical appearance. You could try it, if you really wanted, right? Just take a chair into your bathroom and try to pee into your toilet or bathtub.
  6. SarahRe

    My First Urinal Attempt!!

    Well then: yes, yes, yes, no, no. So I don't know. What do you think? Wow. I am genuinely amazed by this.
  7. I suspected it was something along those lines when you used the half-bracket notation for the ceiling function at some point a while back.
  8. SarahRe

    My First Urinal Attempt!!

    I... don't know. I would probably say No, but I think that's just an educated guess because I think maybe I don't know exactly what that word means in the first place. Wait. What? Seriously? It never would have entered my mind that a man in a wheelchair would be able to use a urinal. I'm trying to imagine fishing my imaginary penis out of my pants and then putting it away again, all from a seated position, with my pants all bunched up in the front like pants do when you're sitting down, and it just seems impossible. Like, it's not easy to even zip or unzip pants while sitting down sometimes, nevermind the penis-fishing. And... wait. Wait. Where do their feet and legs go? Isn't their penis like at least three feet back from the urinal? Do they have to arc their stream all the way over their pants and just somehow hope that none of it ends up on their pants? Or was this some sort of joke? It has to be a joke. You can't be serious. Right?
  9. SarahRe

    My First Urinal Attempt!!

    I sure wish I knew some. Actually, I'm not even sure if that's really what I am, anyway. It's not really how I think of myself. But I can see how other people might see me that way, especially just in terms of how I usually look. Well, when you say "again," that implies that at some point I got that eyeful in the first place, which I never did. So it would actually be a first for me. Also, I think your idea wins this year's award for "Outstanding Achievement in Perversion by Faking a Disability." Congratulations!
  10. My first reaction was that this article is incredibly silly, and I found myself getting annoyed at the idea that these people are thinking that entire the physics curriculum needs to be rewritten over this nonsense, and that standing or sitting to pee can't possibly have any relevance to success in understanding physics or a desire to pursue it. Nope, this dumb idea is bad, and these dumb people should feel bad for having their dumb idea. Those were my initial thoughts. And then I realized that I'm a girl who has been standing to pee for a lot of her life. And then I remembered what I majored in. You can probably guess.
  11. SarahRe

    My First Urinal Attempt!!

    I really hope you can get it to work! I think it's definitely worth the time and effort. Feel free to let me know if there's any way I can help. (I'm not suggesting you necessarily need any help—you might eventually get better at it than I am, and then I'll be the one asking you for advice!) Please do tell if your experimentation yields any useful findings. :) Actually, I'm not sure what you're planning to try, but if you happen to try out any men's underwear (boxers, boxer-briefs, whatever), I'd be curious to know what you think—not just in terms of peeing issues, but just in terms of general comfort. It's not like I have any burning desire to start wearing men's underwear, but I do often find myself wondering if it'd be more comfortable. (There's also a voice somewhere in the back of my mind saying something along the lines of: What are you doing? You already pee standing up, and now you want to wear men's underwear? No straight guy is going to find this remotely attractive. You're going to end up living alone with a dozen cats. But I don't think that voice is loud enough to actually matter, which may or may not be a good thing.) I tried to be a good kid too, but I don't think I would've had the self-control at that age to do anything but just stare. Do you remember, um, just how much you did see? It's occurred to me before that for a little girl in the men's bathroom, the urinals and penises are probably gonna be pretty much right at eye level. So if everything's out in the open, it seems like it would be hard not to end up getting an eyeful. How was your family about peeing and privacy when you were growing up, like with your dad and brother? I was an only child, so the only male in the house was my dad, but I don't think he ever peed in front of me. I don't think I ever really peed in front of him either once I was above a certain age. (I know that by the time I start peeing standing the first time at around 8 or 9 or so, I was already well past the point of peeing in front of my dad.) But I'm also aware that other families sometimes do things very differently than mine did.
  12. My math comments were intended to be precisely 0% serious. That's 0.00, when written as a decimal proportion. I think he's saying that you can count to eleven using your fingers and your penis. If you only have ten fingers but can count to higher than eleven using your penis, then you either need to see a doctor or join the circus.
  13. Yeah, I've learned by now that my teenage self was very badly mistaken about how things usually go in the men's bathroom. I've been learning so much about all the various rules! I never realized there were so many rules. Maybe males are overrepresented in STEM fields and in things like top-level chess because they have a head start on mathematical and spatial reasoning due to all of the calculations they have to do growing up just to figure out where to pee.
  14. SarahRe

    My First Urinal Attempt!!

    Well, I think it's reasonable to not know this if you don't actually have the parts in question, especially if you're talking about when you were younger. What's really not reasonable is that, from what I've read and heard, there are some grown women who also think this. I really hate to make fun of people for not knowing things, because there are so many things in the world about which I'm totally clueless. But still, how can someone not know this about their own body? Seriously, how can someone not know how their own private parts work by the time they're an adult? I've actually thought about that exact question, and I'm not sure I know the answer. I was definitely aware that urinals existed in boys' bathrooms from a very young age, but I don't recall any specific moment of seeing one for the first time. How did I know they existed at all? Good question. I don't know. Maybe my dad did take me in the men's bathroom with him when I was very young, and maybe the informational knowledge persisted in my brain even though the memory of the experience didn't. Maybe I saw something on TV in a men's bathroom and asked one of my parents about it. Or maybe I read about it in a book or something. Maybe it was the worst Dr. Seuss book ever: So yeah, I honestly don't know how I became aware of the general idea of men's bathrooms and urinals without really going in them. Also, for what it's worth, I definitely used porta-potties at various events at least a couple of times around the age when I started peeing standing, and I was well aware that the plastic thing on the side wall was a urinal. I remember wishing that it was lower because I really, really, really wanted to pee in it like I knew boys got to do. (Of course I've gotten to do this multiple times in my life by now.) That's interesting. Are you mainly talking about what you saw (or I guess what you didn't see) when going in women's bathrooms with your mom (or some other female relative when you were little)? Or are you talking about just whatever general knowledge of women's bathrooms you might have acquired by other means? Well, really, I just oversimplified in what I said before. I totally agree that what you're saying would be correct based on how I described it before. But to be more exact, I actually think that the horizontal distance is probably slightly less than the vertical height of the launch point, which means that it's hard to say for sure whether the angle is slightly above or slightly below 45°. I think that 45° is definitely a pretty close approximation.
  15. SarahRe

    My First Urinal Attempt!!

    I know exactly what you mean. I don't think I've ever gotten a really great side-angle view of myself peeing that way. I just figure that if my pee is coming out from a little less than three feet high and is landing a little less than three feet in front of me, then it's probably coming out at around 45°. It really is, isn't it? It's not that I like peeing standing up because it's the way guys pee; I like peeing standing up because it's so clearly the better way to pee, for anyone who's able. For what it's worth, it probably took me a while before I was confident enough to start standing to pee as my default option when out in public. I had to do quite a few successful standing pees at home before I really trusted myself about being able to do it consistently. If you keep practicing at home when you can, I really have no doubt that you can eventually get to where you can do it without even having to think. And yeah, now that I go standing, I really don't like having to sit. If I go in and there's someone else in the bathroom, but it seems like she's about to leave, I usually find myself just standing there in the stall hoping that she does leave. In other words, I guess it's usually worth it to wait an extra 30 seconds to pee if it means I can stand instead of sitting. For me, I just need to get the bottom of the zipper (or the top of the pants, if there's no fly) far enough below my crotch to where my pee stream clears it on the way out. (Well, I have to get my underwear down to that level too, but that's usually less of an issue.) So for men's pants that are plenty loose, they really only have to come down a couple of inches. To put it differently, I've looked at myself in the mirror with men's jeans in "peeing position," and they're still high enough in the back that my butt crack is covered. (My shirt would usually hang down that far anyway, but it's still nice to know that my whole butt is inside my pants where it belongs.) I do own some boxer shorts! And yes, I have absolutely tried wearing them instead of my regular underwear to see if I could make use of the fly hole to pee out of. Unfortunately, I couldn't really make it work—the fly hole just isn't low enough, so I still had to pull them down in the front to get the hole to line up, but then I ended up with bunched-up material in the crotch that was getting in the way. (I didn't actually pee that way when I tried it because I could tell it just wasn't going to work.) I do kind of wonder about men's boxer-briefs, though. Those seem like they might be pretty comfortable, and I might be able to use the fly hole without having the same bunching problem. Okay then, that makes me feel a lot better about not knowing how it worked either. Hey, I have a related question, if you don't mind me asking you this. When you were little, did you ever get taken into the men's bathroom by your dad or an older brother (or some other male relative or caretaker)? I'm aware that this is a thing that people sometimes have to do with kids, but I honestly don't think anyone ever did that with me once I was old enough to remember. Instead, I distinctly remember my dad sending me into the women's bathroom by myself from a very young age. Here's why I ask. I sort of wonder sometimes if one reason (among many) for my interest in these kinds of topics—urinals, peeing standing up, seeing guys pee, etc.—is simply that the men's bathroom was this forbidden, mysterious place to me when I was growing up. If it was the same way for you, and you also developed some of the same kinds of interests that I did, then that hypothesis starts to seem pretty plausible.