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  1. TheGreatNobody

    everyones sexuality

    So I've commented on this before but it's kind of outdated. I've accepted that I'm trans and am lesbian for the majority. I was repulsed by having sex with men before, but when I imagine myself without the pointy thing and instead with the inward thing it doesn't seem as bad as it first did. It's just that with my current body (and hopefully one day my former body :P) it's too much dick. One is the maximum, preferably not attached to me. Also don't stick it in the back. The repulsion of men was at least partly a projection of the disdain for my own body, so I think that I might be pansexual after a full transition, and I expect to stay pretty high on the kinsey scale but I really don't know for sure
  2. TheGreatNobody

    How to tell if someone is into pee?

    I know people who do talk about peeing and pee-related things more regularly than what seems normal, some I'm pretty sure of don't have a pee-related fetish and of a few others I honestly can not tell. All I know is that I have one, and it causes me to avoid talking about it as much as possible. If I knew about someone else having one, it'd probably be because they told me and not because I asked them. So everyone is different and you can't even infer the opposite, so unless they make it extremely clear in their comments I wouldn't count on it.
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    female Dutch Girl pees pants and cleans up

    The sentence both translators didn't get was something like "Oh bleh, this is so wet, eeeeeeeeeew". Not 100% because the way she speaks and the words she uses are hard to translate even in this short sentence. It's about how she feels it being wet with her hand. "Oh bah, voel hoe nat, oeh"
  4. TheGreatNobody

    Is Gender A Spectrum?

    Take this as a starting point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-spirit There are many cultures which have lost their previous notions of gender in favor of the colonizer's. It's what happened with many attributes of different cultures around the world. Perception of gender is just one of those, not something specific that is loose from the rest through some sort of event. It was just part of suppressing those cultures in general. Some colonized peoples have managed to hang on to (parts of) their own culture, and for some of those that includes less rigid ideas on gender but most less rigid cultures either completely or partly disappeared. (btw who are 'gendered people'? Afaik that's practically everyone )
  5. TheGreatNobody

    Is Gender A Spectrum?

    The breakdown of predescribed gender roles is not the same as wanting to get rid of gender - the idea that something, like gender, is a social construct means we can change it, not that it is necessarily bad or should be abolished. We should be more allowing as to what people want to do and not be as rigid as we were before, but at the same time people can still identify as man or woman. Just saying that we should abolish gender doesn't change that the idea of there being more than 2 options or being able to be transgender is something very important to people; it changes how we are viewed in society. Now, to be fair, that is something that can change which can help social dysphoria, if we're allowed to act and dress any way we like regardless of gender. But we are extremely far away from that. On the other hand there is bodily dysphoria, and that wouldn't change. That doesn't disappear if we just abolish gender as a whole. In addition, if we would do that, we'd probably still have differences in average attitude and biological differences described as differences in sex anyway, which wouldn't change much for someone who falls outside the norm of being cis. You don't live or feel the same, because you are seen, treated and raised differently based on your genitals, you still don't have the same body parts, you have different hormones which greatly alters you perception of nearly everything (many trans people can only really be themselves after blocking the wrong and taking the right hormones). For many people, attraction also changes. For example, at the moment, I am extremely grossed out by male bodies and genitals but recognize that at least 90% comes from my own dysphoria, and on those rare occasions where I can really imagine myself having a female body it largely disappears. So I think there's a good chance I could become bisexual, and I definitely wouldn't be the first whose orientation would change. And in general, society at the moment would not be ready to abolish the idea of gender at all. So this idea, which I've seen a lot of times in reaction to gender discussions, is irrelevant to gender discussions at the moment. It changes nothing for people who are assigned a different gender than they are.
  6. TheGreatNobody

    Is Gender A Spectrum?

    I was talking about cultures where there was more ambiguity in gender and more gender expressions allowed. Most of them were wiped out or assimilated and forced into the idea of binary genders, among other things of course, it's a part of wiping out whole cultures. Some of these survived until this day but most didn't. I never said anything about the 'gender conversation' as it is nowadays. You asked when the colonial era was, if it was some kind of historical event. That is what people responded to b/c that's what you said.
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    Do you guys find Gay Pride annoying?

    Well, tbh, as someone who is transgender and an atheist, I've had good experiences with Muslims that weren't even brought in; they got here all by themselves! Ever heard of things like the Westboro Baptist Church? Or the KKK, which is also heavily influenced by Christianity? I mean if you're gonna generalize small groups of Muslims onto all of Islam you gotta do Christianity the the same courtesy Or better yet, don't do that with either. Well, for one, the gay and trans panic defenses that are actually still legal in a large part of the states, resulting in lower sentences for the same crimes if they're against gay or trans people. Or like how trans people have to be scared to go outside or use a public bathroom (if they're even allowed) because politicians equate them to sexual predators. Or how in some states it's still legal to discriminate against LGBT+ on religious grounds, like businesses being allowed to not provide gay people with their services purely on the basis of their sexuality, and in other states politicians are trying to get the same legislation passed. Don't forget that even being allowed to get married was only allowed recently. I personally live somewhere where that was allowed a long time ago, but if trans people wanted to transition it was combined with forced sterilization until 2014. In a broader sense, societal acceptance is far from where it should be and many LGBT+ kids have no place to go if their family and/or environment is not accepting. Lack of support where necessary is also a lack of rights for people who should be able to be themselves.
  8. TheGreatNobody

    Is Gender A Spectrum?

    Like I said, you can't just keep on saying 'facts', 'science' and 'proof' and make things you say magically true. You're complaining about research and science but you haven't given a single scientific view. Also, that's not the definition of civil? Like, at all? It has nothing to do with it. And you haven't been civil no matter how many times you keep repeating that. Also providing links =/= science. There's more on the internet than just science, in fact most things aren't. Like if you go into the actual peer-reviewed science you get very different results than those blogs and so-called 'medical studies'. Was there anything you linked that actually included things like research methods and an actual experiment or something? Anything you could call a study? Because now you just keep repeating the words 'science' and 'facts' and not addressing anything scientific. Like, you conveniently ignore the parts where I actually address it scientifically. And wtf, would you call trans people who are pre-transition cis then? That makes no sense at all. And I know a lot of trans people, binary and non-binary, who used to be conservatives or part of the alt-right. And surprise surprise, as soon as they realized the main source of their frustrations in life they got away asap from communities where the vast majority hates them. rly makes u dink You were talking about 6yo kids and using percentages based on literal toddlers who didn't even claim to be another gender than what they were assigned that all got their gender identity right before the age range where you start to need blockers. This whole paragraph is moving the goalposts. Yeah you aren't fully developed when you start puberty, yeah you start taking blockers when puberty and its hormonal changers are just starting b/c that's kinda the point of the whole thing (if you can, keep in mind this is the vast minority of trans people). And blockers aren't hormone pills, they literally just block the hormones you have and postpone puberty, actual hormone pills that change your body come way later. And most hormonal things can change later on, it just takes longer. Think for example of all the wonderfully passing trans people who have only started to transition after puberty. What one trans person thinks is not a defining thing. Most trans people disagree with your friend, as does the vast majority of peer-reviewed science on the topic. You say you love 'actual' trans people but before you said multiple times that even binary trans people aren't actually trans if they're pre-transition. That's not loving trans people. Also if 70% of the US even supported binary trans rights (let alone believing in non-binary rights) that would be a massive victory for us - even there, in most states there are actual lower sentences for murderers when they kill trans people (via the 'trans panic defense', which is often applied very broadly and even if the gay panic defense is repealed often stays intact), if a trans person goes to jail they often aren't allowed to be in the one that corresponds to their gender identity even if they're binary, if you're not passing you have to be up for constant harassment when going out, the issue of even being allowed to use a public bathroom has become a political issue with several places straight up banning it and there are so many trans people murdered that we need to have a yearly trans remembrance day for them. Our existence is seen as a political statement and our basic human rights are seen as something that needs to be debated, so yeah excuse us when things get political. It wasn't our idea. Even in this thread you're complaining about liberals and leftists and about things being political in response to me even though I didn't say anything about politics so idk what you're complaining about. That's not how anything works. The things you perceive as proof are just things you agree with, and you ignore actual science while doing so. You said you never saw anyone 'give proof', so have you already forgotten the papers in scientific journals I linked in the comment you are replying to? Also, you can verbally attack someone, and even if you have scientific proof against the claims made by that attacker you can still call it that. Turns out that words can mean multiple things depending on the context. Feelings about how things should be play a huge part in all areas on the political spectrum. All of what you're saying here is an appeal to feelings hidden behind some science-adjacent words in caps. And nobody thinks their body changes based on their identity ffs. If you are another gender than the one you got assigned, you are trans. If you are assigned female but feel male inside, you are a (trans) man and vice versa. That doesn't just start when you start taking hormones. Thank you for reiterating, but we're all painfully aware that our bodies don't immediately change when we start to accept our gender identity. This whole thing reads as if you think people want to be transgender somehow. But I can tell you that no, it's not fun, and I wish I was born cis every day. Same goes for non-binary people, many of whom also transition so I guess they are trans after all according to your logic. And @ all; about the mental illness thingy. Having gender dysphoria is often described as a mental illness and classified as such in the DSM-V. Some disagree, but I don't really care. Where the problem comes in, is people treating being transgender as a mental illness based on that. But that isn't the case; in fact, transitioning has been a very successful treatment for gender dysphoria, which results in trans people without dysphoria. Also, I'd argue that the amount in which it impedes you makes the mental illness, and not the thing of itself. Like most people have some form of anxiety about something either at some point in their lives or their whole life long, but that doesn't make it an anxiety disorder, for example. Edit: meant this to be a separate comment, but apparently it got automatically added to this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonialism First sentence of second paragraph: I really thought everyone was aware of that.
  9. TheGreatNobody

    Is Gender A Spectrum?

    Btw as a biologist one of these articles is pretty funny: Preeeeeeeeeeeeeeetty sure biologists on actual universities disagree. And the source for 'our brains are different' is, surprise, another blog posts, whose source are studies that correctly identified male and female brains 69-77% and 93% of the time respectively. Now I don't need to tell you that isn't 100%, and the ambiguity in the latter one is still higher than the amount of trans people that exist. These conclusions are pretty funny considering that other studies have shown that the brains of binary trans people show the same patterns as the cis counterparts of the same gender. And I mean if only 93% of the brains of people correspond to the gender they were assigned at birth, isn't that pretty significant support for the idea that genders can vary from the ones assigned, and that there can be a middle ground?
  10. TheGreatNobody

    Is Gender A Spectrum?

    Then maybe don't act as if non-binary genders spit in the face of trans people when most vehemently disagree with Blaire White? Like yeah, of course we're not a hive mind, but you're acting as if a small minority is somehow representative b/c you aren't providing the view most trans people, even if you only include binary, actually have. You are saying that non-binary genders delegitimize binary trans people. But just how? Nobody claims you can just change your physical appearance at will like you implied in your previous post. It doesn't change anything. Some NB's transition, some don't, some just go for a full androgynous look. This doesn't affect binary trans people in any way. You pretend you're against NBs out of concern for trans people. But when most trans people themselves don't actually agree with that view, who are you fooling? You're using those 'poor actual trans people' as a stick to hit NBs with and I, as a binary trans person who definitely has a better view on consensus among trans people than you, am not okay with that. You are not concerned for trans people, otherwise you'd actually ask for their perspectives and wouldn't just take one of the few trans people that agrees with your biases about gender as somehow representative of the whole. Also there's this thing about socialization and societal ideas about what's allowed for men and women to do and what shouldn't be done; social constructs go way, way further than just fashion. Even the whole idea that there isn't anything between men and women is a social construct that has changed throughout history and across cultures.
  11. TheGreatNobody

    Is Gender A Spectrum?

    You keep reiterating that there is proof for what you are saying and that science agrees with you and that this isn't the case for people who disagree with you, but you don't ever really provide proof? If that would be true, how would it work for people who are binary but still believe there are multiple genders? I don't see how any of this could ever be classified as science. Meanwhile, lots of cultures recognized multiple genders until the colonial era where the west pushed their notions of gender on the world, and several cultures (especially in SE Asia and indigenous peoples in the Americas) still do. And there's been done lots of research into it and most scientific research actually supports the idea that gender isn't 100% binary. For example, it's extremely easy to find these articles: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/09540261.2015.1106446 http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J367v03n01_05 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/wol1/doi/10.1002/abc.21086/abstract There's lots more to be found. All I see you providing as 'scientific proof' and 'facts' are blogposts. You act as if just repeating the words 'facts' and 'science' makes you right without actually using either of those. Just providing links to blogs you agree with isn't science. Non-binary trans people have no impact on suicide rates by binary trans people? How would the existence of non-binary genders change that? Also, in case you missed it because it seems like you did, I personally am binary trans. Why are you gatekeeping a community you aren't even part off when the vast majority (exceptions like the widely hated within trans communities Blair White exist) do not have a problem with them? Also trans men exist, they wouldn't 'chop their dick off' and even for trans women SRS is a ~little~ different than that. Also, I am trans even though I don't take hormones and still have the genitals I am born with but that has more to do with the lack of availability of treatment on a reasonable timescale and lack of money to do it without doctors' approval (with approval it's fully covered by insurance where I live). Nobody does that. Generally kids get puberty blockers when they're like 10-13 so they can choose which puberty they have a little later on, never at such a young age for good reason, and only after years they get the hormones to confirm their gender. And even then, your body has an immense potential to change even if you later change your mind but This is a myth. Or at least the myth was 85%, seems like you added some extra % just for good measure. The 85% figure was based on very young kids who didn't even identify as trans but just weren't 100% happy with gender roles, and turns out that 85% of those kids were cis after all; all realized that well before puberty even started. And I hope you realize that not being happy with gender roles =/= identifying as trans. Also strange how you go from using binary trans people as an attack on non-binary people (oh those poor trans people that I definitely care for suffer so much at the hands of non-binary people!) and then in the same post go on to talk about the totally unrelated myths about how trans kids are treated. I don't see you backing anything up except with blogs, but I didn't catch you engaging in a civil matter at all? Like you are just sharing your opinion and acting like it's a fact, and having a very hostile attitude while doing so. Seems like you're extremely offended by the fact that others disagree with that opinion. You're referring to my view as just 'feelings', but you're only basing yourself on the feeling that gender should be binary and nothing more and are attacking strawmen. Things aren't facts or science just because you agree with them, there's actually more to it than that. Hey, here you go from attacking non-binary genders to attacking binary trans people like you've done several times, I thought you supported those? Like if you see trans women as 'men who think they're girls' (again, ignoring trans men, wonder why you primarily focus on trans women?), that's pretty much delegitimizing them. If you act like that and also pretend you're against non-binary genders because it would hurt binary trans people, that's arguing in bad faith and specifically concern trolling. Also the idea that trans people think people should be put in jail for misgendering somehow only exists in non-trans communities. I've never seen trans people actually claim that, and I've had and seen lots of conversations about it with other trans people. Accidentally misgendering someone is completely different than campaigns of harassment against trans people, where intentional misgendering are often a tactic among many other things. So this is a strawman. I literally just joined this conversation, what? You don't seem very patient or civil here. Not a guy
  12. TheGreatNobody

    Do you guys find Gay Pride annoying?

    In most places in Europe and in the US, yes. But even in the US the trans panic is still seen as a legit defense in a lot of places, just like gay panic in some states, and can result in a reduced sentence, basically telling people they're worth less than others. Yeah those things are myths. This is true for a very, very tiny minority. False figures have circulated based on faulty research, and follow-up surveys found very different results. Like, one of the most well-known percentages is 85% of people who regretted it; that was based on literal kids who didn't even identify as trans but just weren't happy with gender roles, and turns out that 85% of those kids were cis after all; all realized that before puberty even started. Preventing people access to transition services is putting people's life at risk. To realize why, you just need to compare suicide rates of trans people pre-transition (or without access) to post-transition. Ah, yes, using islamophobia and whataboutism to deflect from LGBT+ rights, classic. The fact that there are places that have it worse than where you live, does in no way make your area perfect and the biggest influence we can have is where we live ourselves. I'd like to be able to campaign for LGBT+ rights in Saudi Arabia but it's not like citizens of western countries hold any leverage over their government. I am trans and personally, I've come out to 3 people who aren't direct family or trans themselves. All were supportive, and 2 of those 3 were devout Muslims. They both totally accepted it without question despite at least one of them never even having heard of it before. That's better than a lot of stories I've found about devout Christians for example. It isn't as clear-cut as you like to pretend it is here; Muslims aren't inherently worse than others when it comes to human rights.
  13. TheGreatNobody

    Is Gender A Spectrum?

    Hai, it would be great if you'd stop using binary trans people as a shield while attacking non-binary trans people. Gender may be non-binary for some, and binary for others. Also genderfluidity and being non-binary are different things that you seem to be conflating; someone who is non-binary might be very rigid too. My view is that gender is a spectrum, and you can fall anywhere on that spectrum. Which means there's a lot of dots that you could give specific names in theory. There's practically nobody adhering to that enormous list that was posted here before and is mainly used as anti-trans propaganda. Especially seeing the amount of overlap between terms. You see it a lot that those kinds of things only really circulate in transphobic circles. Since it is a spectrum, there is no correct number of genders, however small or large you think that number is. I believe we have femme on one side and masc on the other side, with non-binary genders in between, too far from both ends to be called either a man or woman. With the exception of agender; though I personally believe it's an interpretation of being so dead-center in the spectrum you can't really identify with anything on it, I can't know how it is for them and won't police someone's gender identity; it doesn't affect me anyway. Some who identify as such view it as being dead-center just like me, and some see themselves as not even being on the gender spectrum. Most trans people are binary and the existence of non-binary people does not spit in the face of binary trans people or their desire to physically transition to their internal gender. Signed, a binary trans person.
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