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Firstly, this is not meant to re-ignite the debate regarding the new policy. 
It’s done, it’s over, we agree to move on from here. 
I’m really not interested in others pointing out how right or wrong they may feel it is. That’s already been done to death, and we know who sides in which camp. 
 

What I want to do here, is simply explain why I chose to write stories involving children, and to hopefully clear up any misconceptions about what my personal motivation for doing so was. 
 

Im not a pedophile. 
 

Yes, that’s exactly what you would expect a pedo to say, as I’m sure most that have been caught over the years would’ve claimed exactly that.

If that’s what people think, I’m really saddened by it, but I realise that I probably won’t be able to change their opinions, although I’m going to try. 
 

Ive stated a number of times over the years about how my particular omo kink manifests itself. I have a little/middle side, and like so many people here, I enjoy occasionally indulging myself mentally in age play. I’m not an Adult Baby, but a little/middle. My young persona is around 10-14 years old. When I indulge in wet play, that’s how I picture myself, BUT, I don’t picture other kids. 
 

A lot of you would’ve read my real life experience “Shelley Stories” over the years. For those that haven’t, I’ll explain in a nutshell. 

 

Growing up, from age 12-15, I had a best friend and neighbor, Shelley, who occasionally wet her pants on accident. During the summer months, we would wet our pants on purpose while we played in the pool or under the hose. It was just one of those silly things that we did, and it was a popular topic of conversation. We wet ourselves a lot while we played, pretending all sorts of silly scenarios, and like I said, I saw her have quite a few real accidents as well. 
Experiencing this as I started adolescence is what I believe started me off on this fetish. 
So a lot of my stories, Daniel and Amy in particular, are exaggerated projections of things that I experienced or witnessed with Shelley. When I’m in my little space, these are the things I’m remembering.

I would write the story, actually seeing it through Daniels eyes, based on an exaggerated version of my own memories of growing up with Shelley. Certainly nothing to do with me fantasising about other children, just picturing myself as one. 
 

Does this make it alright? Probably not. 
Do other people masturbate to my stories? Probably yes. 
Do I feel guilt that they do? No. 
 

Am I a pedophile? Definitely not. 
 

As I said at the start, I’m not trying to justify anything, not debate the rights or wrongs of the policy. 
 

I just want people to know that I don’t have a “thing” for kids. Outside of that, judge me as you will. 
 

Barry. 

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Barry, I totally understand where you are coming from and want to thank you for clarifying for those that don’t necessarily see things the same way. My interest in omo dates from pre-puberty, holding on too long and finding that playing with myself enabled me to hold longer. One thing led to another...

Your stories, Daniel and Amy especially of course, have allowed me to understand better not only my own route into this but also the various other ways other folk would share in it. In fact that was/is the genius of that story as each character has a slightly different take on this. 

 

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People seem to be conflating "minors" with "children." Here in the real world, consensual, sexual things happen between people who are not not of legal age, because that's biology. Children don't. When you're 8 years old butts and ding dongs are gross and do gross things and you are blissfully ignorant of anything involving sex or sexuality. Time, however, marches on. Your hormones and sexual development do not obey the law. In art, this concept is explored frequently, both in fiction and nonfiction. The "loss of innocence" is an incredible driving force and subject in many works of artistic fiction. But something else happens as we get older as well. We get wiser.

You see, the 12 year olds that sneak porn on the internet when the parents are out shopping, or the 15 year olds that sneak off into the creek to check out each others' bodies away from the eyes of the camp counselors are in a different phase of life than we are. They are young, inexperienced, and not capable of being aware of or resisting the capabilities, physically or mentally, of a grown and fully developed adult. Furthermore, adults occasionally knowingly and willingly disregard this and even exploit it - an act that can leave young adolescents mentally and physically damaged for the rest of their lives. These encounters are what the law seeks to prevent. And, correct me if I'm wrong, the types of encounters this site hopes to prevent, while respecting the broad definitions of law that cause this.

But let's dial back a bit and focus in on the argument of fiction involving minors - I think what people are really missing in this context is the working point: minors get into sexual situations, when they're old enough to do so, and with each other, not adults. I don't mind those stories, I've written a couple myself when I was younger based on my own experiences, but never published them. I don't mind retelling encounters I've had as an adolescent. I occasionally consume stories others have written for a sexual purpose, all of which have been to relive my younger years. But never in a million years will I ever place myself in a position to have a sexual encounter with a minor in person, read a story about such an encounter, or enjoy any kind of sexual content about children. Ever. I'm sure there are many, many people like me here. I think they are just as mentally sound and safe in society as I am.

There are some people who have, to avoid getting vitriolic and to put it diplomatically lightly, been disingenuous, ignorant, and egregiously outspoken on both sides of this argument. I would greatly appreciate it if they could give it a rest, or even better, at large, acknowledge the reasonable and prudent position in these arguments, acknowledge the site's policy isn't meant to intrude on that content (specifically, stories involving consenting adolescents in a sexual encounter, fetish or otherwise) as the law does not prohibit said content and they are under no legal obligation to remove it. Drawing, CG, videos, all else is open for debate until the cows come home, but the law is clear - it's a no go. I have no strong opinions on this matter save for a baseline based on my own opinion: I think the people that consume sexual content of children need to seek professional help. I do not mean it antagonistically, I mean it genuinely. If you can only ever get off to children, I highly encourage you to seek help to move on to more healthy sexual habits. I personally do not, but won't look down on people for consuming art - not photos - of adolescents in the same light.

 

Draw a page from how the world really works. Know who you are in that scheme. Adjust your opinions and actions accordingly. And for the love of god, move on already.

 

That's all.

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12 hours ago, WetNick88 said:

Barry, I totally understand where you are coming from and want to thank you for clarifying for those that don’t necessarily see things the same way. My interest in omo dates from pre-puberty, holding on too long and finding that playing with myself enabled me to hold longer. One thing led to another...

Your stories, Daniel and Amy especially of course, have allowed me to understand better not only my own route into this but also the various other ways other folk would share in it. In fact that was/is the genius of that story as each character has a slightly different take on this. 

 

Thanks. That’s the thing I was trying to get with the characters, how different ones experienced it in their own way. 
Dan absolutely hated it at first, and felt it was ruining his life. Then Amy came along and showed him that while it wasn’t a great thing, he could actually learn to have some fun with it as well. 
Amy just accepts it. She’s not happy about being incontinent, bus has accepted it for what it is. Since she met Dan, she’s been a lot happier because theirs finally someone else she can talk to. 
Nikki just loves deliberately wetting her pants. There’s really no particular reason, but she loves doing it. Since discovering diapers, her interest is expanding. 
Strangely enough, I think Nikki is the only true Diaper Lover there. Dan and Amy wish they didn’t need them, Scott and Aiden don’t like them, and Maria just doesn’t care very much. But Nikki would wear 24/7 if she could. 
The partnership of Dan and Amy combined has led them to discover a more sexual side of their problem, and while they probably don’t quite understand it, they know they like it. 
Maria is a holder. Not so much into the wetting, but loves holding and desperation. Since she discussed her mama doesn’t really mind if she has an accident, she’s enjoying pushing herself and experimenting with holding. 
Aiden feels extremely childish still. His mother still looks at him as her little boy, and although he hates wetting the bed, he appreciates the fact that his mum is understanding about it, and he isn’t in a huge hurry to grow up. 
Scott hates it, and is extremely embarrassed by it. In all other aspects of his life, he’s one of the cool kids. Popular, athletic, good looking, and mature for his age, except for his dreaded night time problem. 
 

So every character has their own take on it, and they’re all little facets of how I feel. I’m a bit of them all. 

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@Sonador: Childhood sexuality is a very sticky subject, but it's my understanding that it isn't uncommon for prepubescent children to be curious about their own bodies or the bodies of their peers, first crushes often predate puberty by multiple years and first crushes with a much older object of affection aren't uncommon, or at least, such things are more common than most adults are comfortable admitting. I've even read that infants and even fetuses have been observed performing actions that are hard to explain as anything other than masturbation. Admittedly, stories where a couple of 8-year-olds go from playing house/doctor to innocently playing with each other's private parts to going at it like rabbits probably aren't the most realistic, but I think the reality is more complex than simply "all children are completely non-sexual beings".

Also, I don't think being older necessarily makes one any wiser. Yes, the hope is that wisdom will come with the accumulation of experience, but there are plenty of elderly fools who never learned any of the lessons life tried to teach them and plenty of wise youngsters who, while lacking experience, have taken the lessons handed down from their elders to heart instead of giving life a chance to hammer them in the hard way. At nearly 33, I certainly have more life experience and I'm more knowledgeable than I was at 16, but I'm not convinced I'm any wiser than I was at 16.

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If you broader rebuttal to my argument of "children are generally not sexual and adults should not engage in sexual encounters with minors" is to propose that children are capable of sexual exploration and adults can be immature, I'm really not sure what to tell you beyond that I'm not open to such criticism.

If not, I'm not entirely sure what your point is in the context of my statement.

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My point was to refute a pair of agist stereotypes, my post wasn't intended to comment on the greater context those stereotypes were presented in as I feel I've said plenty on the subject in the other threads this discussion has spilled into.

But to clarify, I do think an adult romantically pursuing a child should at least be investigated, and perhaps even disallowed no matter how much evidence there is that the adult has no intention of progressing the relationship to a sexual one(And any evidence of such intentions should probably result in admittence to a psych ward), and while I'm not sure how an adult should handle being the target of a precocious crush, especially if the child is persistent, I'd agree the adult giving into the child's advances is probably one of the worst ways of handling the situation.

Childhood, Adolescence, and adulthood are certainly distinct phases of development and there are probably good arguments for even finer catogories, but the boundaries aren't hard, well-defined lines, the number of birthdays a person has had is a poor proxy for whatever aspect of maturation you're concerned with, and for any quantitive facet of development you decide to plot via histogram to compare the three major developmental groups, I'd expect some overlap. I'm not saying adult-child sexual relationships should be allowed in real-life(I'm pretty solidly in the camp that such should be along side things like murder, rape, and war as things that should only ever happen in fiction), but I don't see how denying aspects of human nature just because they're inconvenient or make people feel uncomfortable helps in addressing real world problems.

And for what it's worth, I do hold a rather strong anti-agism stance that is mostly unrelated to my "anything goes in fiction" and "leave harmless perverts alone" stances.

Also, my apologies to Barry, I tried to avoid talking about the issue that's been discussed to death recently, hence why my previous post focused exclusively on the refutation of agist stereotypes, but apparently some people can't help reading more into a post than is there.

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On 10/11/2019 at 1:58 AM, Barry said:

Firstly, this is not meant to re-ignite the debate regarding the new policy. 
It’s done, it’s over, we agree to move on from here. 
I’m really not interested in others pointing out how right or wrong they may feel it is. That’s already been done to death, and we know who sides in which camp. 
 

What I want to do here, is simply explain why I chose to write stories involving children, and to hopefully clear up any misconceptions about what my personal motivation for doing so was. 
 

Im not a pedophile. 
 

Yes, that’s exactly what you would expect a pedo to say, as I’m sure most that have been caught over the years would’ve claimed exactly that.

If that’s what people think, I’m really saddened by it, but I realise that I probably won’t be able to change their opinions, although I’m going to try. 
 

Ive stated a number of times over the years about how my particular omo kink manifests itself. I have a little/middle side, and like so many people here, I enjoy occasionally indulging myself mentally in age play. I’m not an Adult Baby, but a little/middle. My young persona is around 10-14 years old. When I indulge in wet play, that’s how I picture myself, BUT, I don’t picture other kids. 
 

A lot of you would’ve read my real life experience “Shelley Stories” over the years. For those that haven’t, I’ll explain in a nutshell. 

 

Growing up, from age 12-15, I had a best friend and neighbor, Shelley, who occasionally wet her pants on accident. During the summer months, we would wet our pants on purpose while we played in the pool or under the hose. It was just one of those silly things that we did, and it was a popular topic of conversation. We wet ourselves a lot while we played, pretending all sorts of silly scenarios, and like I said, I saw her have quite a few real accidents as well. 
Experiencing this as I started adolescence is what I believe started me off on this fetish. 
So a lot of my stories, Daniel and Amy in particular, are exaggerated projections of things that I experienced or witnessed with Shelley. When I’m in my little space, these are the things I’m remembering.

I would write the story, actually seeing it through Daniels eyes, based on an exaggerated version of my own memories of growing up with Shelley. Certainly nothing to do with me fantasising about other children, just picturing myself as one. 
 

Does this make it alright? Probably not. 
Do other people masturbate to my stories? Probably yes. 
Do I feel guilt that they do? No. 
 

Am I a pedophile? Definitely not. 
 

As I said at the start, I’m not trying to justify anything, not debate the rights or wrongs of the policy. 
 

I just want people to know that I don’t have a “thing” for kids. Outside of that, judge me as you will. 
 

Barry. 

the fact is that your memories are early stages of exploring sexuality. sexuality is an adult thing, and if you find some adult part of yourself exciting, especially since you did it with a girl, that's certainly not pedophilia, it's actually quite the opposite. actually i believe wetting fetish of all of us started in a way simmilar to that. 

i, for example, remember having sexual feelings as early as kindergarten age, specifically pantyhose (that girls of my age in kindergarten would wear). 

the best thing would be to experience new wetting experiences as an adult rather than fantasizing about memories from the past. if i were you, i'd definitely contact that Shelley 🙂

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