Guest Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I hate porn videos with fake desperation and wettings, but if it’s in a cartoon or an anime I love it. Sometimes shows are good too, but not usually. I figure people would probably prefer real desperation over fake desperation, but what are your thoughts on it? Quote Link to comment
Bulge_Lover 1,909 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 It's fine if it's not a lie. In movies and shows, obviously it's fake, but it can still turn me on because it's a part of a story I already care about. If it's porn, some random women trying to pass it off as real, then they pee for six seconds? Nooooo thank you. Yoshi, Slater, faffef and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
rachelkirwan 13,625 Posted November 29, 2018 🌟 OmoOrg VIP Share Posted November 29, 2018 I've 'played up' my desperation numerous times, sometimes to get permission to go pee, sometimes for a sexy little tiny exhibitionistic thrill (see my collected works here on the forum). I like this approach, because when I'm really desperate, it's hard to pay attention to what's going on around me, so if I want to do this, I need to be a little more in control than I appear to be. Plus, if you are doing something somewhat public, you never know if you might need to call it quits for a random reason. Getting past the point of no return has risks and consequences ? BlueWetter 1 Quote Link to comment
wettingman 1,584 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I love real desperation, but obviously faking it,or being overly loud is a turn off. I usually can spot a phony and stop watching. Quote Link to comment
TVGuy 10,657 Posted November 29, 2018 🌟 OmoOrg VIP Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2018 Oh boy... I have a whole bunch of thoughts on this, both as someone who has studied storytelling in the context of motion pictures and as someone who produces wetting videos. They key phrase here is "suspension of disbelief" which feeds into the concept of authenticity. Beyond just desperation scenes in videos, in any story told in any way, whether it is video, text, audio, or images, the storyteller is asking the audience to temporarily suspend their disbelief and accept the reality that is being presented by the storyteller as true, at least to a certain extent. Professional storytellers build realities that you may consciously know are fake, but once that alternate reality is built, you accept the events within that reality as being authentic to that world. You are able to suspend your disbelief and accept what is happening. You may know that the world presented to you in Harry Potter is not real, but in that world the characters belong, and they feel real within that context. To that extent you are able to accept things like magic, giants, and dragons because they don't break the reality of that fictional world that the storyteller built, so you accept them as being authentic to that universe. The problem, in my opinion, with fake desperation in fetish videos is that the suspension of disbelief never occurs, so the desperation feels unauthentic. Fetish videos often lack any kind of world-building or character building, so you are judging everything that happens from the point of view of reality. This makes you aware of the camera that is filming the scene, that the bathroom door that the girl is knocking on is probably empty, and that the whole set-up is existing only for the benefit of the video. In the context of that video, if the characters pretend it is anything different, you know that it is all fake. You don't accept the situation as being authentic. Desperation in mainstream film, television, or literature will feel authentic because it is real within the context of the world that it is happening. In that same manner, true desperation captured on video will feel authentic because it is also real within the context of the world that it is happening, in this case, the real world. Most fetish videos, however, lacking any world-building, are producing something that is fake within the world context of the situation, so it lacks any kind of authenticity. A century of motion picture storytelling has resulted in a nuanced visual language that supports the suspension of disbelief. We are trained to accept the motion cadence of double flashed 24 frames per second film and the optical characteristics of a 35mm imaging device as a subliminal switch that causes us to suspend our disbelief and enter the world being presented to us. In the same way, smaller imaging sensors and the motion cadence of 50hz-60hz capture signals reality and real-world situations. For these kind of moving pictures we have been trained to do the exact opposite, not to suspend our disbelief. Other things such as visual sequences, audio, camera motion, and more, all contribute to getting us to suspend our disbelief, as does the structure of the story itself. Most people who make fetish videos, unfortunately, lack the understanding of the theories behind filmmaking and visual storytelling. Even for fetish filmmakers who do possess the necessary skills and knowledge, the economic realities of producing such videos often is a major obstacle in doing a really good job with it. The suspension of disbelief is also incredibly fragile- Even if it is achieved, it can be broken instantly as soon as something inauthentic happens. This could be a bad edit, bad patch of audio, camera motion, a glance from one of the models, or any other number of things. Mirzoza, m3rmaid, Zipzop and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment
Hugh 4 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 The ex-girlfriend used to fake her desperation because of how uncomfortable she was with my fetish. It still turned me on from the amount of detail she would put into the fake desperations. It all depends on how involved the person gets when they are faking it. When I watch porn some of the fake desperations that I see turn me on and others don’t. Quote Link to comment
Zipzop 150 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) Fake or not, what's important to me is that it is believable. In other words, if it's faked well enough, I should be left not noticing it was faked. With desperation, a lot of that of course depends on the acting ability of performer. It's a bit like 'drunk' acting - a poorer actor overdoes it, and you notice it's not 'real'. And let's face it, performers in the adult industry are not always exactly the greatest of actors. In the end, the rule of 'you can't know what you don't know' applies. If it's faked well enough, then you don't know it's faked. Your favourite scene ever? Maybe it's faked! (I'd half wrote this post yesterday before TV Guy posted his, but I'm just echoing his thoughts really - it's about the suspension of disbelief. It's a subject I've wanted to discuss in this forum since I joined, but never had the time or energy ? ) Edited November 30, 2018 by Zipzop (see edit history) Quote Link to comment
Lukhas 391 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 In all videos on sale is clear- I think- that it is not real desperation but that there is only video with desperation and peeing yourself. We all know it. But there are performers who can play it very well and these videos are the best. Quote Link to comment
blasseroz 115 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 On 11/29/2018 at 3:03 PM, Bulge_Lover said: It's fine if it's not a lie. In movies and shows, obviously it's fake, but it can still turn me on because it's a part of a story I already care about. If it's porn, some random women trying to pass it off as real, then they pee for six seconds? Nooooo thank you. Couldn't put it better! Quote Link to comment
Cup160 1 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 There are sites where video on sales are not fake. Many of the early videos and the travelling videos at lovewetting.com, and micro sites like water-detox.club sell genuine videos. Quote Link to comment
Slater 167 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Like what's already been said, suspension of disbelief, but I am far more likely to enjoy it when it is real desperation and moreso in a real scenario. I'll write off the fakeness of the situation or desperation if the wetting is long and interesting. Without both, it quickly becomes a turn-off. Even if the desperation is real, if it's not natural and played up sexually (i.e. the model rubs herself sensually and talks sultry about her desperation, overtly moaning, etc.) it will also become a big turn-off for me. I'm sure there's people who are in to that, and even if she pees for 10-15 seconds, videos seem to get overwhelming likes, just not from me. Yoshi 1 Quote Link to comment
trekkie 1,098 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I like it if it's well-acted. I mean, think of anything you see in fiction. Those people on TV are not actual doctors or lawyers or superheroes or starship crews, that teenager is clearly over thirty, but if it's a good story, well-executed, with likeable characters and decent acting, you get into it! RoTracksuitWet 1 Quote Link to comment
PPP 1,307 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I like it if it's well-acted too, but that usually only happens in movies. I find that most of the time, it just looks unconvincing. Quote Link to comment
bibibibi 169 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 11/29/2018 at 5:52 PM, TVGuy said: Most people who make fetish videos, unfortunately, lack the understanding of the theories behind filmmaking and visual storytelling. Even for fetish filmmakers who do possess the necessary skills and knowledge, the economic realities of producing such videos often is a major obstacle in doing a really good job with it. The suspension of disbelief is also incredibly fragile- Even if it is achieved, it can be broken instantly as soon as something inauthentic happens. This could be a bad edit, bad patch of audio, camera motion, a glance from one of the models, or any other number of things. hmmm, that must be why media peeing scenes can be so popular despite so many of them being obviously fake Yoshi 1 Quote Link to comment
Spectator9 954 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Many desperation and wetting videos and stories are based on unlikely or even laughable premises, and that can be a turnoff. With the videos, I have to ask, "If this is an accident or unplanned, why is there a camera recording this? Why is he standing in a bathtub?" They are essentially Pee For the Camera clips. (I feel the same way about alleged "reality" shows on TV. All those personal, private moments have a camera and sound crew right there, and when it's covered from several angles, it probably was acted repeatedly and edited together.) Quote Link to comment
blasseroz 115 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 16 hours ago, Chikita said: I'm strongly into the accidental and more innocent aspect of omo This is real omo to me. The word 'omorashi' is 'leaking', which implies an accident. not holding or forcing. This does not imply that other watersports aren't fascinating to others, just the old "is it really omo?" question. RDFan2020 1 Quote Link to comment
wettingman 1,584 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/16/2018 at 10:52 AM, Spectator9 said: Many desperation and wetting videos and stories are based on unlikely or even laughable premises, and that can be a turnoff. With the videos, I have to ask, "If this is an accident or unplanned, why is there a camera recording this? Why is he standing in a bathtub?" They are essentially Pee For the Camera clips. (I feel the same way about alleged "reality" shows on TV. All those personal, private moments have a camera and sound crew right there, and when it's covered from several angles, it probably was acted repeatedly and edited together.) I agree to a point. I have no desire to have an accident in public. However, I enjoy being desperate and holding my pee until I can't, and it comes out on it;s own. Although I set up the situation intentionally,the desperation and uncontrolled peeing / wetting is real, because I didn't pee when I should have. I have wet my jeans in the tub just to contain the puddle. Quote Link to comment
SpaceWonderer 699 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Fake desperation is as bad as a fake orgasm. I don't think anyone likes it. RDFan2020 1 Quote Link to comment
Spectator9 954 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Setting up the situation can still result in genuine desperation, and I can appreciate that. Whether or not you purposely put off peeing, you still have to go really bad! Quote Link to comment
wettingman 1,584 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) I think I can spot fake wettings. When the subject is obviously poorly acts fake. about her need to pee by for one thing using a fake sounding voice, and then only peeing a tiny amount, it is probably not genuine. I have seen videos on in particular from here the girl is about to wet herself. She is wearing a skirt and light blue panties. The camera focuses on her crotch. When the scene opens there is already a small wet spot in her panties. Apparently she can't use her hand to hold herself, but she squeezes her thigh with each wave, simultaneously tightening her pelvic floor mussels . You see her pussy actually flexing each time through her panties. Eventually she starts leaking but holds on for a while , before giving in and releasing a big puddle with a nice hiss. I believe it's Not faked and very hot. She obviously came to the shoot both a very full bladder and continued holding and drinking until either they were set to film and she may have overestimated the time she had remaining to hold, and leaked a bit first. . Edited December 19, 2018 by wettingman (see edit history) Quote Link to comment
wetchoirpants 56 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Fake desperation dose not bother me. What bugs me is the fake accidents. You knew your going to pee those pants the moment you started the camera ? Quote Link to comment
kenken4k 11 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) If the acting is good then I don’t have a problem with fake desperation’s. Tbh I can’t really get into anime desperation for some reason. Like I’ve been turned on by anime but it’s not fully there for me. Edited December 24, 2018 by kenken4k (see edit history) RoTracksuitWet 1 Quote Link to comment
salatblader 7 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I agree, real desperation is 100% preferred. If they act well and seem desperate and I can't tell it's fake, it's ok, but I think I usually can tell. RoTracksuitWet 1 Quote Link to comment
Spectator9 954 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 If it's a staged performance and acted well, fake desperation is ok but not really exciting for me. If it's represented as real but faked I'm definitely turned off. Quote Link to comment
RoTracksuitWet 138 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Personally, I don't mind fake desperation as long as the person involved acts like it's a real desperation. For example, he/she holds his/her pee for ages, heads to the bathroom to find that it's locked, unfortunately. Desperately and frustrated, tries to unlock and then succeeds but too late. He/she wet himself/herself. And also whispering,moaning and facial expressions matter. Quote Link to comment
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