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School: Desperate girls in line for bathroom between classes, but can't be late and can't go during class.


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Not too long ago, I had created a topic about bathroom lines in school between classes, as shown here.

https://www.omorashi.org/forums/topic/46836-desperate-girls-bathroom-line-at-school/

I want to try a similar scenario, but tweak it a little. 

In this new scenario, there is a girl with the name of Emily that is wearing this:  A shorts with suspenders with a loose-fitting tee. Something like this: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5OaIhwe8rZs/TJdcU_qXAiI/AAAAAAAAAN4/-qW-7e2oKxY/s1600/B5DB4DB6.jpg 

Factors to consider:

I)        There are five minutes between classes, and 50 minute class periods.

II)      Can’t be late, and can’t use the restroom during class (already used up any free tardies and emergency restroom passes, if you even had any in the first place).  Next time she is late (or has to use the restroom during class) is a 30 minute detention (or in some cases, a 60 minute detention).

III)   Asking teacher to use restroom before the bell rings won't work, since she already used up her restroom passes, and will probably only make her later.

IV)      There are three toilets available in each girls bathroom (and there are three total sets of restrooms in the building, not counting the nurse's restroom or the gym locker rooms).

V)  There are at least 1,000 students in this school (and at least 500 of them are girls). 

VI)     A girl named Emily needs to use the restroom with a desperation of about 9.5 out of 10 (meaning about as close as you can come to peeing your pants without actually doing so) between third and fourth periods. 

VII)      She arrives at the restroom closest to her next class with about 3 minutes to go before the next class (took here about 2 minutes to get from previous destination to here).

VIII)          Peeing on the floor, trash can, sink, water bottle, chair, or desk are not allowed.  Each girl either pees in a toilet, or can’t make it and pees in her pants.

IX) Cutting in line is not allowed, even if those at the front of the line are not as desperate as the ones at the back of the line, because there is a line for a reason, plus no one is allowed to be late.  Basically it’s a “first come, first serve” type of queue line, regardless of how desperate you are.  However, it is possible that maybe one or more of the girls “gives up” on the situation if she’s not that desperate and figures she can wait another hour, which may in essence make the line a little shorter where Emily has a better chance to pee and get to class on time.  But for the purposes of this topic, we’ll assume that is not going to happen.  It’s also possible in theory that one or more may only need to apply makeup, which is not really part of the “pee line”.   But again, for these purposes, we’ll assume everyone is in line to use one of the three toilets.

X)  Each girl will need a minimum of one minute of time in the stall before exiting.  It may take longer, and may take a lot longer is somebody needs to do #2.  But for the purposes of this topic, we’ll assume everyone only has to do #1.

XI) There may be a bathroom monitor present, but only to make sure things there is no line cutting, or that nothing gets out of control like horseplay, smoking, stuffing toilets with paper towels, etc.  They are not there to write passes for those who are waiting in line to pee.  They can let the girls know how much time is left to get to class (like say one minute left), but they don't really force anyone out of the restroom at that point in time, or when the bell rings.

XII)            This is the way the toilet queue looks with three minutes to go before class, and three toilets in this restroom.

      A)        Girl 1 (Elizabeth)—18 year old senior, desperation about 4 out of 10  (consequence if late—warning_

      B)        Girl 2 (Brandi)—17 year old senior, desperation about 5 out of 10  (consequence if late—warning)

      C)        Girl 3 (Michelle)—17 year old junior, desperation about 6 out of 10 (consequence if late—warning)

      D)        Girl 4 (Jennifer)—16 year old junior, desperation about 7 out of 10  (consequence if late—warning)

      E)         Girl 5 (Tina)—16 year old sophomore, desperation about 8 out of 10  (consequence if late—30 minute detention)

      F)         Girl 6 (Nicole)—15 year old sophomore, desperation about 8.5 out of 10 (consequence if late—30 minute detention)

      G)        Girl 7 (Tiffany)—15 year old freshman, desperation about 9 out of 10 (consequence if late—60 minute detention)

      H)        Girl 8 (Emily)—14 year old freshman, desperation about 9.5 out of 10  (consequence if late—60 minute detention)

Naturally, the ones that really have to pee the worst are the ones that are at the back of the line.  So as you can see, the first three or four girls probably could wait another period, but would prefer not to.  They are in a position to where they probably have enough time to pee and get to class on time, but can also hold it for another hour if need be.  They decide to go ahead and pee now since they have the time to do so (their classes are right near the restroom, and if worse comes to worse, if they are late, they just get a warning because they haven’t been late before), because you don’t know what might happen after the next hour, because their desperation might be closer to a 9 out of 10 by then and then have to deal with a longer line.  As a result, the last four girls in line are in a bad situation.  These four girls pretty much have to pee within the next 15 minutes or so, which means in essence they need to pee during this particular break.  Unfortunately, they don’t have enough time to wait in line, pee, and get to their next class on time, because it was a 5 minute passing period, and there are currently 3 minutes left.  Also unfortunate for those girls is that if they are late, they get a 30-minute detention because they may have been late a time or two before (or their teachers have a no tolerance policy on tardies).  And they can’t go to the bathroom during class, and clearly can’t wait another hour.  This could be the dream scenario for those hoping for an accident, and a nightmarish scenario for those 4 girls involved in that predicament.

Now, the first question you might ask, is if the last four girls had to pee that bad, why didn’t they get into the bathroom sooner before the line got so long.  Maybe their previous classroom was so far away, and this was the closest restroom they could find and the soonest they could get there.

 

So here are a few questions:

  1. Knowing how desperate Emily and the others are to pee and how many girls are ahead of them in line, what should they do?

    1. Wait in line, pee, get to class late and receive a 30 (or 60) minute detention (or fight it if they think it’s unfair)

    2. Go to class without peeing, and pee all over herself (her pants, seat, or whatever sometime during her next class)

    3. Other (remember the line-cutting, peeing on the floor, sink, trash can, or water bottle is not allowed).

  2. If she is late and receives a 30 (or 60) minute detention, what should she do about it?

    1. Have parents sign it and serve it, and don’t make a bad situation worse.

    2. Talk the situation over with her parents, and have them talk to the school administration about the whole mess.

    3. Don’t talk to her parents, and don’t serve the detention, and possibly get a misconduct and in-school suspension or Saturday school instead, in which case the parents will have to get involved anyway.

    4. Other.

  3. If she realizes she doesn’t have enough time to wait in line and get to class on time and decides to try to wait it out, what should she do?

    1. Try to hold it as long as possible through her next class, and maybe relieve a little pressure from time to time by peeing in her pants just a little bit at a time and hope the wet spot isn’t too noticeable and that she can get to the bathroom after the next class.

    2. Hold it as long as she can, and eventually have a full-blown accident.

    3. Miraculously be able to hold it through the whole next period, against all odds, and then start the cycle all over again at the next break.

    4. Other.

  4. If she does end up peeing her pants because she can’t go to the bathroom, what should she do?

    1. Ask to see the nurse.

    2. Ask to call home for a change of clothes.

    3. Ask to leave school to go home to change clothes (unless it’s the last period of the day, when it’s pointless)

    4. Ask to talk to the principal or assistant principal about the situation right then and there.

    5. Ask to call her parents about the situation.

    6. Other

 

 

Edited by DesperateQueue (see edit history)
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Might as well start this ?

On 11/9/2018 at 5:43 PM, DesperateQueue said:
  • Knowing how desperate Emily and the others are to pee and how many girls are ahead of them in line, what should they do?

    1. Wait in line, pee, get to class late and receive a 30 (or 60) minute detention (or fight it if they think it’s unfair)
      - Detention is better than embarrassment 

    2. Go to class without peeing, and pee all over herself (her pants, seat, or whatever sometime during her next class)

    3. Other (remember the line-cutting, peeing on the floor, sink, trash can, or water bottle is not allowed).

  • If she is late and receives a 30 (or 60) minute detention, what should she do about it?

    1. Have parents sign it and serve it, and don’t make a bad situation worse.

    2. Talk the situation over with her parents, and have them talk to the school administration about the whole mess.
      - The school should take responsibility for the well being of the students. 

    3. Don’t talk to her parents, and don’t serve the detention, and possibly get a misconduct and in-school suspension or Saturday school instead, in which case the parents will have to get involved anyway.

    4. Other.

  • If she realizes she doesn’t have enough time to wait in line and get to class on time and decides to try to wait it out, what should she do?

    1. Try to hold it as long as possible through her next class, and maybe relieve a little pressure from time to time by peeing in her pants just a little bit at a time and hope the wet spot isn’t too noticeable and that she can get to the bathroom after the next class.

    2. Hold it as long as she can, and eventually have a full-blown accident.

    3. Miraculously be able to hold it through the whole next period, against all odds, and then start the cycle all over again at the next break.

    4. Other.

  • If she does end up peeing her pants because she can’t go to the bathroom, what should she do?

    1. Ask to see the nurse.
      Or

    2. Ask to call home for a change of clothes.

    3. Ask to leave school to go home to change clothes (unless it’s the last period of the day, when it’s pointless)

    4. Ask to talk to the principal or assistant principal about the situation right then and there.

    5. Ask to call her parents about the situation.

    6. Other

 

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Probably the most sensible choice is what Luna posted up above, and I'm curious for other opinions.

I don't know how realistic this is in real life, but I would have to think that somewhere, somebody has dealt with a situation similar to this and having to choose between being late to something important or pissing your pants.

Of course, I never said all three stalls were currently occupied, but I figured that would be a given, and I did mean to imply that.  Figure that on average that a stall opens up and the next girl can enter every 20 seconds at best (might be closer to 30 or 45 seconds).  Depending on whether the current three girls are finishing up their business or just starting, the first three girls in line might be able to enter within about 20 seconds, or have to wait a full minute (maybe minute and a half or two minutes).  If you assume a minute for each girl to do their business, 30 seconds to wash and dry hands, and another 30 seconds to get to class on time, this would be about what you would expect, if you assume that a stall opens up every 20 seconds.

Girl 1--enters at the 2:20 mark, exits at 3:20 mark, finished washing hands at the 3:50 mark, and gets to class at the 4:20 mark (probably okay)

Girl 2--enters at the 2:40 mark, exits at the 3:40 mark, finished washing hands at the 4:10 mark, and gets to class at the 4:40 mark (should be okay)

Girl 3--enters at the 3:00 mark, exits at the 4:00 mark, finished washing hands at the 4:30 mark, and gets to class right at the 5:00 mark (very iffy)

Girl 4--enters at the 3:20 mark, exits at the 4:20 mark, finished washing hands at the 4:50 mark (might have to skip washing hands, or just to a 5 second rinse), and gets to class at the 5:20 mark (late, unless class is right by the restroom and/or doesn't to a thorough wash)

Girl 5--enters at the 3:40 mark, exits at the 4:40 mark, so that leaves 20 seconds to wash hands and get to class on time.

Girl 6--enters at 4:00 mark, exits at the 5:00 mark, so is essentially already late

Girl 7--enters at 4:20 mark, exits at 5:20 mark, so is late

Girl 8 (Emily)--enters stall at 4:40 mark, exits at 5:40 mark, so she is late without factoring time to wash hands and get to class.

As I mentioned earlier, Emily had a desperation of 9.5 out of 10 upon entering the restroom, so basically needs to pee "right now".  But she is stuck waiting in line for at least 2 1/2 minutes, so there is a good chance she may pee her pants before even getting to the front of the line.  Assuming she is able to wait it out without having an accident, she will essentially be stuck in line when the bell rings, or just entering a stall and peeing when the late bell rings.  So after 2 plus minutes of fidgeting, pee dancing, trying to do whatever she can to avoid peeing her pants, she finally gets relief without pissing herself.  And just a few seconds later, the late bell rings while she's peeing, and now she knows she's going to get in trouble for being late, and get a 30 or 60 minute detention.  Alternatively, if she knows she's already late, she could choose to skip class altogether, but that would probably get her in bigger trouble than a tardy would.

I just don't know.  Maybe I'm making a big deal out of nothing, because I have never seen or heard anyone involved in this scenario, but I could certainly believe that it is a possibility.  I would hate to be the poor soul (boy or girl) that gets stuck in an "impossible" situation like this, but I guess it's a little fun to talk about the possibility.

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