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Recently at HD Wetting we were disturbed to see that some users felt our fantasy scenarios would be fun to try in real life, with unsuspected and unwitting participants.  As a result, we felt motivate

There hasn't been just a single factor, but rather an emerging pattern that has motivated this video. In general, we have fun doing scenes at HD Wetting that, if done in real life, would be moral

Does anyone have the full vid of the pizza wetting scene showed in the video?

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8 minutes ago, FemDesp4Life said:

Does anyone have the full vid of the pizza wetting scene showed in the video?

Yes, it's on a site called HDwetting.com. You should check it out!

On topic, it saddens me a lot that enough people have mentioned non-consensual fantasies that a PSA needed to be made, though it was still a fun and cute video. You'd think the topic of consent would be something everyone can grasp but even omo.org gets its share of users who don't seem to care about leaving a puddle of pee in a movie theatre for someone else to clean up.

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3 minutes ago, OmoCommando said:

On topic, it saddens me a lot that enough people have mentioned non-consensual fantasies that a PSA needed to be made, though it was still a fun and cute video. You'd think the topic of consent would be something everyone can grasp but even omo.org gets its share of users who don't seem to care about leaving a puddle of pee in a movie theatre for someone else to clean up.

Indeed.  The thing that really gets me is the people who argue consent, or try to find some gray area for when express consent isn't needed.  It is pretty simple- Someone either consents to being a part of your fantasy, or they don't.

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1 hour ago, TVGuy said:

Indeed.  The thing that really gets me is the people who argue consent, or try to find some gray area for when express consent isn't needed.  It is pretty simple- Someone either consents to being a part of your fantasy, or they don't.

I don't understand. People are asking you to rape models? or are they asking you to make a BDSM, or wtf is going on? I've never once heard a model say "I consent to the following scene", the assumption is that the video is produced with consent of all parties involved.

Otherwise, the video is not porn, but incriminating evidence of a crime. I sure hope no model is being assaulted/harmed, and I hope that all of the models are 18+, and you keep all records in accordance to the law, etc. Can you elaborate more on the motivation for this video?

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30 minutes ago, realmadrid said:

I don't understand. People are asking you to rape models? or are they asking you to make a BDSM, or wtf is going on? I've never once heard a model say "I consent to the following scene", the assumption is that the video is produced with consent of all parties involved.

Otherwise, the video is not porn, but incriminating evidence of a crime. I sure hope no model is being assaulted/harmed, and I hope that all of the models are 18+, and you keep all records in accordance to the law, etc. Can you elaborate more on the motivation for this video?

From what's implied in the video, and from the submissions of past members on omo.org who created similar content, I would imagine the models are being asked to perform public acts, such as the movie theatre example I mentioned above, or as Sosha said, the models wetting themselves before a person(s) who did not consent to being a part of the act. The gag thing with Lyra was just being used as an example.

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5 hours ago, FemDesp4Life said:

Does anyone have the full vid of the pizza wetting scene showed in the video?

I am really glad that you are intrigued enough by our videos on HD Wetting to want to see more of them.  We work really hard to produce the best videos we can, so it really means a lot to us when someone wants to see more of them or expresses their appreciation in some other way.

However, there are quite a few costs associated with producing such videos, and it isn't something we can continue to do unless people are willing to pay for them.  The specific video you referred to is called "How to get Free Pizza" and can be found here on HD Wetting, but you do need a membership in order to see it.

If, for whatever reason, a membership is not possible for you, we do offer a new free video every day that can bee seen right here.  Someday, in the future, if you are able to get a membership we would love to see you at HD Wetting.

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We do not consent with recording anything involving others without their consent. Attempting to do something to someone like tying them, adding drugs to their food or drinks or damaging/ruining public property without consent is a crime. 

However, about the 'pizza video'... It's a bit different. If the real life version was recorded, that would be wrong however if it is not recorded and the wetting happens at the door of YOUR HOUSE then it is perfectly fine. It's immoral and rude, yeah but it cannot be deemed a crime. 

Edit: We forgot to mention that telling about what all happened during the incident to others be it social media or in person without the consent of the other person should not be allowed. 

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9 minutes ago, TrueDepression said:

However, about the 'pizza video'... It's a bit different. If the real life version was recorded, that would be wrong however if it is not recorded and the wetting happens at the door of YOUR HOUSE then it is perfectly fine. It's immoral and rude, yeah but it cannot be deemed a crime. 

The fact that TVGuy made a video and several posts about this and yet it’s still gone over your head is astounding. How do you walk upright with a head so dense?

Consent has nothing to do with whether or not something can be “deemed a crime”. Consent does not inherently involve legality at all. The issue of consent is only concerned with being sure that all parties involved in something agree to be a part of it. In the pizza situation because the pizza delivery person has not agreed to be part of the fantasy they have not consented and therefore the act is wrong, recorded or otherwise.

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Peeing your pants is wrong, yet we are doing it. And we love it. 

Private property is a different issue. If and only if it happens on privately owned property and you so happened to own it, you have the right to do whatever you want there. "What if, Me and my friend were doing a holding contest. I was wetting myself when my friend got an urgent call and had to leave. When they opened the door, a stranger saw me peeing. Did I need consent?" 

6 minutes ago, SeriousSly said:

Consent has nothing to do with whether or not something can be “deemed a crime”. Consent does not inherently involve legality at all. The issue of consent is only concerned with being sure that all parties involved in something agree to be a part of it. In the pizza situation because the pizza delivery person has not agreed to be part of the fantasy they have not consented and therefore the act is wrong, recorded or otherwise.

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27 minutes ago, TrueDepression said:

We do not consent with recording anything involving others without their consent. Attempting to do something to someone like tying them, adding drugs to their food or drinks or damaging/ruining public property without consent is a crime. 

However, about the 'pizza video'... It's a bit different. If the real life version was recorded, that would be wrong however if it is not recorded and the wetting happens at the door of YOUR HOUSE then it is perfectly fine. It's immoral and rude, yeah but it cannot be deemed a crime. 

Edit: We forgot to mention that telling about what all happened during the incident to others be it social media or in person without the consent of the other person should not be allowed. 

I hardly ever swear, much to the annoyance of my girlfriend who thinks some situations definitely call for swearing.  So, please appreciate here when I say WHAT THE ACTUAL EVER LOVING FUCK?

Are you seriously arguing here that it is okay to involve another person in your sexual fantasy, without their consent, against there will, as long as it is at a location you own and control, such as your house, as long as you keep it secret and don't share it with anyone and it doesn't technically qualify is illegal?  Are you really trying to say that it is okay then?  Because that is sure what it seems like you are trying to say.

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2 minutes ago, TrueDepression said:

Peeing your pants is wrong, yet we are doing it. And we love it. 

Private property is a different issue. If and only if it happens on privately owned property and you so happened to own it, you have the right to do whatever you want there. "What if, Me and my friend were doing a holding contest. I was wetting myself when my friend got an urgent call and had to leave. When they opened the door, a stranger saw me peeing. Did I need consent?" 

A) Peeing your pants is not inherently wrong.  If you are an adult, not harming anyone, not involving any non-consenting person, and not damaging anyone else's property, there is nothing wrong with choosing to do something.

B) The issue is consent, not private property.  Doing something on your own on your private property is one thing, but to lure someone else to your property under false pretenses to force them to become part of your fantasy, denying them the ability to consent to being part of it, is wrong.  If you were an exhibitionist, it would be equally wrong to lure someone to your property and intentionally expose yourself to them. 

The example you cited about someone accidentally catching you is not the same thing at all.  First of all, you typically have an expectation that you are not going to be seen inside your own home.  You are not engineering the situation, it is just an unfortunate incident.  In the same way, it might be possible to accidentally walk into a room at the wrong time and see your friend naked, even though you didn't intend to.  Just because that kind of accident can happen, doesn't mean it is then okay to purposely spy on your friend in the hopes of seeing them naked.

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Well I gotta say that it's good to know these type of things. I'm glad I watched it so I can understand the situation. Lastly I don't know why some people on here are jumping to the Pizza Topic when clearly this video is about a very important message. Yes, I get the fact that the person showed us a Clip from the Pizza Wetting Video but that's being used as an example. It's okay to ask about it but not at this particular Topic/Discussion if it was about the Pizza Wetting Video.

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18 minutes ago, TVGuy said:

A) Peeing your pants is not inherently wrong.  If you are an adult, not harming anyone, not involving any non-consenting person, and not damaging anyone else's property, there is nothing wrong with choosing to do something.

B) The issue is consent, not private property.  Doing something on your own on your private property is one thing, but to lure someone else to your property under false pretenses to force them to become part of your fantasy, denying them the ability to consent to being part of it, is wrong.  If you were an exhibitionist, it would be equally wrong to lure someone to your property and intentionally expose yourself to them. 

The example you cited about someone accidentally catching you is not the same thing at all.  First of all, you typically have an expectation that you are not going to be seen inside your own home.  You are not engineering the situation, it is just an unfortunate incident.  In the same way, it might be possible to accidentally walk into a room at the wrong time and see your friend naked, even though you didn't intend to.  Just because that kind of accident can happen, doesn't mean it is then okay to purposely spy on your friend in the hopes of seeing them naked.

Firstly purposely spying on someone is a crime which can lead to imprisonment and/or fine depending on severity. 

When we said peeing is wrong, we meant it morally. In a civilized society we should only urinate in toilets. That's proper behavior. It's understood. Yet we are doing it. It's legal to wet yourself whether intentional or accidental as long as it does not cause problems to others. Just think about it. Smoking, consuming certain drugs, drinking alcoholic substances is wrong but they are legal. 

Secondly, you have a wonderful voice. No homo. 

Thirdly, "My fantasy is walking across the streets in a furry costume and be accepted by my friends who are not at all affected by it. Do I have to ask consent of everyone planning on using that street that if they are okay with it? What if I like peeing in my backyard and my fantasy is being watched by others while peeing. My backyard has a fence on which the other side there is someone else's house. I pee in the yard not caring if they can see or not but hoping they could. Do I need consent to pee in my own yard?"

Fourthly you should do more talking clips. Even pure audio clips are okay. 

Fifthly, if you admit it is legal where is the problem? The only person in the pizza case who has to suffer is the person having an accident. They have to clean  their clothes, the mess they made while the pizza guy can easily spread rumors about it. 

 

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11 minutes ago, TrueDepression said:

Firstly purposely spying on someone is a crime which can lead to imprisonment and/or fine depending on severity. 

When we said peeing is wrong, we meant it morally. In a civilized society we should only urinate in toilets. That's proper behavior. It's understood. Yet we are doing it. It's legal to wet yourself whether intentional or accidental as long as it does not cause problems to others. Just think about it. Smoking, consuming certain drugs, drinking alcoholic substances is wrong but they are legal. 

Secondly, you have a wonderful voice. No homo. 

Thirdly, "My fantasy is walking across the streets in a furry costume and be accepted by my friends who are not at all affected by it. Do I have to ask consent of everyone planning on using that street that if they are okay with it? What if I like peeing in my backyard and my fantasy is being watched by others while peeing. My backyard has a fence on which the other side there is someone else's house. I pee in the yard not caring if they can see or not but hoping they could. Do I need consent to pee in my own yard?"

Fourthly you should do more talking clips. Even pure audio clips are okay. 

Fifthly, if you admit it is legal where is the problem? The only person in the pizza case who has to suffer is the person having an accident. They have to clean  their clothes, the mess they made while the pizza guy can easily spread rumors about it. 

 

@TVGuy, I wouldn’t waste your breath with this one (or these ones if we want to entertain this loon), he’s done nothing but troll around here every time I’ve seen him pop up. @TrueDepression, I implore you to stop with the “we” schtick because frankly I’m not sure which alternative is more idiotic - that you expect us to believe there are multiple people posting on your account all at an equally low IQ or that such a group in fact exists and scientists around the world have yet to be told we’ve found the missing links.

You hinge your entire retort against TVGuy’s comment on the basis of morality - a concept which you fail to realize is different to each person. Just because peeing is morally wrong to you doesn’t mean it is morally wrong to the rest of us.

@OmoCommando, I don’t mean to randomly tag you but I figured I’d grab you since you’ve commented in this thread already. This dude’s been just been trolling and bumping his own posts since he joined, with -50 (and counting) community votes is there any chance the mod team would be open to banning him?

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@Kirito @KozmoFox @OmoCommando Is having a differing opinion bad? For things that are legal, people have different opinions. Our opinion is that if the wetting happens within our premise, it is okay no matter who is with you or who can see for and only when it is not shared or recorded. We tagged all of you, to understand our opinion and then banning us. 

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@TrueDepression I see where you're coming from but you are mistaken. Just because something happens on your private property does not absolve you any moral or ethical responsibility or obligation. Extreme example, if I rape someone inside of my own house, that doesn't make it okay. If I take out my dick and beat off in front of anyone in my house, that does not make the behaviour okay. There are simply certain acts you do not perform without the consent of anyone and everyone else in the vicinity. Omo.org holds very firm to this belief and if you disagree with it I strongly suggest you find a different forum to frequent.

@SeriousSly I understand your concerns but creating a high number of unpopular posts nor earning high amounts of negative reputation points are bannable offences. Please don't call out other members publicly– we will deal out consequences as we deem necessary.

Guys, when it comes to sexual acts, consent should always be sought from all involved parties. Even if the act isn't inherently sexual, it can be used for sexual purposes (in this case, peeing your pants).

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9 hours ago, TVGuy said:

A) Peeing your pants is not inherently wrong.  If you are an adult, not harming anyone, not involving any non-consenting person, and not damaging anyone else's property, there is nothing wrong with choosing to do something.

B) The issue is consent, not private property.  Doing something on your own on your private property is one thing, but to lure someone else to your property under false pretenses to force them to become part of your fantasy, denying them the ability to consent to being part of it, is wrong.  If you were an exhibitionist, it would be equally wrong to lure someone to your property and intentionally expose yourself to them. 

The example you cited about someone accidentally catching you is not the same thing at all.  First of all, you typically have an expectation that you are not going to be seen inside your own home.  You are not engineering the situation, it is just an unfortunate incident.  In the same way, it might be possible to accidentally walk into a room at the wrong time and see your friend naked, even though you didn't intend to.  Just because that kind of accident can happen, doesn't mean it is then okay to purposely spy on your friend in the hopes of seeing them naked.

TVguy,

first of all, thanks for clarifying my question. I do appreciate. This is why I have been a subscriber to your site, you are one of the few who actually does a genuine job with this industry.

Moreover, your desire discourage people from engaging others in their fantasies is to be applauded, because it is those people who are constantly trying to involve random people in their fetish and whose actions truly contribute to making this community more taboo than it already is to outsiders.

I'll say people are confused with this following example, and whether it is right or not is a separate debate. People think "if it is okay for me to fantasize about somebody [In your own head only!], then why is it not okay for them to see me doing it."

Obviously there are issues with this train of thought, mainly that you are going to creep out 99% of people by making them see something they did not want or need to see for any reason.

One of the biggest offenders of this situation was John Dare: he truly gave no fucks about who saw his videos in the midst of production, and for this reason he had many brushes with the law.

 

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@TVGuy hey sorry; I know this is off topic, but I had a random inquiry. Is HDWetting going to allow purchases on specific videos using free accounts? I would love to show some support but I can't afford subscriptions as I'm still financially unstable for now. However I'd be willing to make one-off purchases on certain videos that I like.

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11 hours ago, TrueDepression said:

Firstly purposely spying on someone is a crime which can lead to imprisonment and/or fine depending on severity. 

When we said peeing is wrong, we meant it morally. In a civilized society we should only urinate in toilets. That's proper behavior. It's understood. Yet we are doing it. It's legal to wet yourself whether intentional or accidental as long as it does not cause problems to others. Just think about it. Smoking, consuming certain drugs, drinking alcoholic substances is wrong but they are legal. 

Secondly, you have a wonderful voice. No homo. 

Thirdly, "My fantasy is walking across the streets in a furry costume and be accepted by my friends who are not at all affected by it. Do I have to ask consent of everyone planning on using that street that if they are okay with it? What if I like peeing in my backyard and my fantasy is being watched by others while peeing. My backyard has a fence on which the other side there is someone else's house. I pee in the yard not caring if they can see or not but hoping they could. Do I need consent to pee in my own yard?"

Fourthly you should do more talking clips. Even pure audio clips are okay. 

Fifthly, if you admit it is legal where is the problem? The only person in the pizza case who has to suffer is the person having an accident. They have to clean  their clothes, the mess they made while the pizza guy can easily spread rumors about it. 

 

Morality is not defined by the law.  Rather, laws emerge from a common acknowledgement of moral axioms.  Sometimes what is legal can be quite immoral, and sometimes what is moral can be highly illegal.  An extreme example would be Nazi Germany- The law ultimately requires Jewish people to surrender themselves for imprisonment, likely facing death, only for committing the crime of being born Jewish.  Anyone who refused, or helped hide anyone who went into hiding, was breaking the law.  Yet, I doubt many would argue that these actions though legal, were immoral.

I very much doubt we will ever arrive at a single, universal moral code that we all can agree on.  At some level, morality is always going to be slightly subjective.  There are always going to be outliers who disagree.  However, for the most part, human morality is based on the concepts of individual autonomy and not causing harm to others.  A person's sexuality is highly personal.  The choice of whether a person wants to engage with another in a sexual manner or not is nearly sacred, lying at the deepest and most personal level of one's ability to make their own autonomous choices.  Thus, it is immoral to engage another person for any kind of sexual purpose without their knowledge or consent, regardless the specific action that is involved.

Based on your statements so far, it seems as if you are searching for a kind of moral barometer based on one's actions, asking why one action might be okay, but another action is not.  However, providing such a measure isn't possible, because ultimately it is the intent behind the actions that matter most.  Few actions, when you remove the driving intent behind them, are entirely immoral all by themselves.  It is what you are trying to accomplish with the action that makes it immoral or not.  When the intent of your action is sexual arousal or some form of sexual gratification, and that action involves another person who doesn't get to consent or have any say in if they are a participant or not, then yes, it is immoral.

In regards to the example you cited of peeing in your own yard, if you are doing so in the hopes of being scene by an unsuspecting person then I would say yes, that is wrong.  Even if that was not your intent, if you knew it was a possibility because your yard is open to your neighbors who might easily see you doing that, it is at the very least mind numbingly inconsiderate, but if the hope is that you are being seen, then it is just wrong- Unless they consent to it first.

Since you continuously bring up what is legal or not, the law recognizes the concept of intent.  On the pizza delivery scenario, if you did that and it was known you did it on purpose, that very likely could be considered harassment from a legal point of view.  The statements you have made here on this forum could even be used as evidence against you in a prosecution, and if that pizza delivery person was under age, you may even be committing a sex crime.

That it is your property or not is inconsequential when it comes to violating another person.  Exhibitionists have been arrested for exposing themselves to others while on their own property.  A personal example I am aware of is when I worked in news I covered a trial of a man who exposed himself to young school children from his front yard.  His defense was that he was on his property so he could do whatever he wanted, and that it isn't specifically illegal to be nude on your own land.  Suffice it to say that this defense did not work at all.

Finally, in regards to your final point, which seemed to be that the pizza person suffers no harm in the scenario- How do you know that?  Harm isn't always easily quantified or obvious.  First, being in close proximity to an adult person who obviously is wetting themselves can be a very awkward and uncomfortable  situation.  This can be compounded by a variety of factors, including if they are alone with you, how close they are standing to you, your attempts to engage with them, potential  age differences, and more.  You are engineering a situation that at the very least could be awkward and uncomfortable.  A person could even reasonably feel fearful in such a situation.  It is wrong to force that on another person for your personal pleasure.

3 hours ago, realmadrid said:

TVguy,

first of all, thanks for clarifying my question. I do appreciate. This is why I have been a subscriber to your site, you are one of the few who actually does a genuine job with this industry.

Moreover, your desire discourage people from engaging others in their fantasies is to be applauded, because it is those people who are constantly trying to involve random people in their fetish and whose actions truly contribute to making this community more taboo than it already is to outsiders.

When I started doing this, I didn't want to just make porn.  I wanted to show pee fetishes, diaper fetishes, and those who are into such kinks in a positive, almost wholesome way.  I didn't want to produce content that was degrading, or made consensual play between adults feel taboo.  My goal was for HD Wetting members to be able to watch the videos on the site, and not walk away feeling that they should be ashamed for their kink.

7 hours ago, Canticle Natura said:

I see that HDwetting still lives up to the name. The lighting in this PSA is great!

We try really hard to offer the best production quality we are capable of.  If people are willing to part with their hard earned money to join our site, they deserve content that had ever effort put into it.

1 hour ago, Nephron said:

@TVGuy hey sorry; I know this is off topic, but I had a random inquiry. Is HDWetting going to allow purchases on specific videos using free accounts? I would love to show some support but I can't afford subscriptions as I'm still financially unstable for now. However I'd be willing to make one-off purchases on certain videos that I like.

HD Wetting doesn't have free accounts.  You are either a member of HD Wetting, which you have to pay for, or you're not.

To answer your question though, older HD Wetting videos can be purchased on a one off base here.  As far as newer videos go, however, I don't have plans to release those for individual sale.  There are several reasons for this-

1) Income can be erratic, sales can go up, sales go down, it makes it hard to predict anything or budget for the future.  Memberships, by contrast, gives me a bit more in the way of predictability and allows me to plan and budget shoots in advance.

2) Piracy- When people use stolen credit cards or pirate videos, the usually do it with videos they purchase as a one time download.  A membership only model limits piracy.

3) Customer confusion- When there are multiple avenues to obtaining HD Wetting videos, potential customers seem more hesitant to buy.  They go back and forth between what they want to do and what is the best option for them.  The result is lower overall customer numbers, which means less income, which means fewer videos getting produced.  Having just a single avenue for obtaining HD Wetting videos, a membership, makes things straight forward.

4) Time spent on customer support- You would not believe how many people would purchase file downloads, then be unable to play the videos for whatever reason.  People don't know where their download folder is, how to open a video file, and get angry when the HD MP4 video won't play on their Windows 98 machine.  Offering downloads like this means a whole lot more time spent on customer support and less time making new content.

5) Time spent making videos available for individual downloads- HD Wetting itself has been built to be a membership site.  There is no foundation there for a pay-per-download system.  This is why, when I offered individual downloads, I started an entirely different site to do it with.  However, publishing videos takes time.  Having to publish both to HD Wetting and for individual download takes a lot more time than just publishing to HD Wetting. 

Yes, I agree HD Wetting isn't cheap.  However, I do not feel that it is so expensive that someone who really wants to join would be unable to.

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15 hours ago, TrueDepression said:

Peeing your pants is wrong, yet we are doing it. And we love it. 

Private property is a different issue. If and only if it happens on privately owned property and you so happened to own it, you have the right to do whatever you want there. "What if, Me and my friend were doing a holding contest. I was wetting myself when my friend got an urgent call and had to leave. When they opened the door, a stranger saw me peeing. Did I need consent?" 

Imagine being such a loner virgin that you actually have to lure the pizza guy to your house and piss your pants in front of him for sexual gratification

Then imgaine being such a pedant that you go online and perform this level of mental gymnastics to avoid realizing what a wretched person you are for unwillingly involving someone in your sexual fantasies

13 hours ago, TrueDepression said:

@Kirito @KozmoFox @OmoCommando Is having a differing opinion bad? For things that are legal, people have different opinions. Our opinion is that if the wetting happens within our premise, it is okay no matter who is with you or who can see for and only when it is not shared or recorded. We tagged all of you, to understand our opinion and then banning us. 

having the opinion that imposing yourself sexually on unwilling people is perfectly fine morally and legally because it's on your property is bad, yes, and if you keep up this kind of creepy shit we will ban you regardless of your reputation

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8 hours ago, Alice Baker said:

and if you keep up this kind of creepy shit we will ban you regardless of your reputation

There’s nothing creepy with what @TrueDepression is saying, he’s just making a statement saying that it’s not illegal to pee your pants infront of strangers. Is it unethical and weird? Yes, but does this make truedepression creepy? No, he’s just stating facts. And if he gets banned for making a statement like this then take me with him because that’s absolutely ridiculous.

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