The Dark Wolf 1,746 Posted February 15, 2018 ✨ Legendary Member Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Even after accepting myself fantasizing about fictional characters (with omorashi and my other fetishes) on account of it being harmless, I still haven't really felt comfortable fantasizing about, say, celebrities, or especially people I know personally because I'd have a hard time facing them if I did (even though they'd never know about it). I thought it would be too perverted, so for that reason I still don't. But, I've been reading a lot of people here do, and haven't been told off for it. So, does that mean it is all right to have those fantasies about real people as long as you keep them to yourselves (or else only share them with others with the fetish/es), and don't say or do anything to make them uncomfortable, or do anything perverted like spying on them in the bathroom, trick them into wetting themselves, etc.? (Even if so, I'd probably still leave people I know out of my fantasies at least) I know this probably sounds like a stupid question like my questions usually do. But remember I accepted that side of me a lot later in life than most people usually do. Plus, what reminded me of my uncertainty about this is I just read a fanfic on fimfiction where Sunset Shimmer reads people's minds and gets offended at all their sexual fantasies about her, until she realizes it's only in their subconscious. Edited February 15, 2018 by The Dark Wolf (see edit history) Xeno_ and panther 2 Quote Link to comment
Xeno_ 160 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just want to validate your thought process! I think you've got it right: having fantasies about real people with whom you are not intimate is perfectly normal and morally ok as long as you keep them to yourself and don't take pervy action on them. That's my philosophy, anyway. buggy2013, Hamr and amasonbo1 3 Quote Link to comment
DerivativeWings 1,648 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) What's in your head is yours and yours only. I don't think it's morally objectionable to fantasize to anything. In the meatspace, you ought to keep it safe, sane and consensual, though! Edited February 15, 2018 by DerivativeWings (see edit history) Xeno_, Sake, Hamr and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
kochel428 583 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 40 minutes ago, DerivativeWings said: What's in your head is yours and yours only. I don't think it's morally objectionable to fantasize to anything. In the meatspace, you ought to keep it safe, sane and consensual, though! A thousand times this. I'd keep sane in there though. There are people who get turned on by the idea of amputating their limbs... don't indulge them. Fantasize to anyone and everyone, though. That is 100% ok. amasonbo1 1 Quote Link to comment
DerivativeWings 1,648 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, kochel428 said: A thousand times this. I'd keep sane in there though. There are people who get turned on by the idea of amputating their limbs... don't indulge them. Fantasize to anyone and everyone, though. That is 100% ok. Sane means different things to different people, which makes it slightly optional. My rule of thumb is; don't do something you'll regret in three days or less. Quote Link to comment
kochel428 583 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, DerivativeWings said: Sane means different things to different people, which makes it slightly optional. My rule of thumb is; don't do something you'll regret in three days or less. That's ok. Another way to think of it is, don't do anything to get or give an orgasm that won't go back to normal after the orgasm. Yoshi 1 Quote Link to comment
The Dark Wolf 1,746 Posted February 15, 2018 Author ✨ Legendary Member Share Posted February 15, 2018 I think I have my answer now since all the answers seem to agree. Besides, "there is no wrong way to fantasize". Xeno_ 1 Quote Link to comment
WaityKaty 1,171 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 hours ago, The Dark Wolf said: Even after accepting myself fantasizing about fictional characters (with omorashi and my other fetishes) on account of it being harmless, I still haven't really felt comfortable fantasizing about, say, celebrities, or especially people I know personally because I'd have a hard time facing them if I did (even though they'd never know about it). I thought it would be too perverted, so for that reason I still don't. But, I've been reading a lot of people here do, and haven't been told off for it. So, does that mean it is all right to have those fantasies about real people as long as you keep them to yourselves (or else only share them with others with the fetish/es), and don't say or do anything to make them uncomfortable, or do anything perverted like spying on them in the bathroom, trick them into wetting themselves, etc.? (Even if so, I'd probably still leave people I know out of my fantasies at least) I know this probably sounds like a stupid question like my questions usually do. But remember I accepted that side of me a lot later in life than most people usually do. Plus, what reminded me of my uncertainty about this is I just read a fanfic on fimfiction where Sunset Shimmer reads people's minds and gets offended at all their sexual fantasies about her, until she realizes it's only in their subconscious. Eh... Personally I'm not crazy about fantasizing about people with whom you have a personal, but non-intimate, relationship. As you suggested. It just makes boundaries of appropriate behavior a bit blurry if you are orgasming to thoughts of your friends and colleagues and then interacting with them in socially appropriate ways later. Obviously it's a debatable point and I'm not suggesting it's inherently unethical, just to add a voice of the other side of said debate. Quote Link to comment
slovenc79 158 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I said my piece about this a while ago on a simmilar topic. People thought it was creepy so I rather not write it again :D Quote Link to comment
Guest RedFish3000 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Well, I think there's nothing wrong with fantasizing like that, as long as you don't try to make your fantasies true. I myself have had several fantasies about female friends of mine desperate to pee and that kind of stuff, but as long as you keep it to yourself and don't take action on them, I think it's fine. Quote Link to comment
Gabby Jay 211 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 If it's all in your head then there is nothing wrong with it. Fantasizing doesn't hurt anybody and if it does, you are doing it horribly wrong. Quote Link to comment
Dunney 475 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 My fantasies are about people I've met or seen, not about people I work or associate with. If the latter, it could easily get out of hand, you might say. If the fantasy is reciprocated, it's another story, but I've only come across one such and we were both firmly attached elsewhere at the time. Quote Link to comment
nappypants 1,406 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Fantasising in a "fetish" context about someone you know and find attractive is no different really from doing so in a "vanilla" context, I expect nearly everyone has done so in one way or another. It's not a problem unless it becomes an obsession, or makes your day-to-day relationship with that person awkward in a way that impacts on your life. And obviously, as the original poster said, involving them in anything non-consensual to satisfy your fantasy (in this case, things like deliberately putting them in situations where they might become desperate or have an accident, or similarly making fake photos or videos) is definitely not on. And if you want to write a story, just change the name (and avoid any other strongly identifying characteristics). Only you will know who it's really about ;) Edited February 17, 2018 by nappypants (see edit history) Quote Link to comment
SJC Omorashi 1,550 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 My opinion is that any fantasy on any subject is moral, so long as you don't act on it. Fantasy hurts no one, so long as you keep it in your head. Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Find it interesting that this concerns you. There is nothing objectionable about any thought. Quote Link to comment
LupusCanis88 70 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 There is an old German Song about this called "Die Gedanken sind Frei" (Thoughts are free) Bottom line is: Think and imagine whatever you want, what's the point in imagination if you have to censor it? Quote Link to comment
Tailsuser 120 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I think there is nothing unusal about this, nobody can blame you for this. It also does not hurt anyone directly either, as far as I can tell from experience. But there are two things to keep in mind: First one: Everything you think will have a little bit impact on you, what you say, what you do, usually just unknowingly, some people would also tell you about chaos theory, but that falls in the same category for me, I also do not know much about this theory. So in theory it comes out of your mind. The other thing is quantum physics: Theoretically what you think has impact on other waves, therefore also on objects, people, energy. To come to my conclusion: As long as it does not hurt anybody I think it is OK, but even if you do not notice it in any way it has a little impact on the world around you, might not even be bad. On 2/15/2018 at 11:34 PM, kochel428 said: Another way to think of it is, don't do anything to get or give an orgasm that won't go back to normal after the orgasm. Well I do not think you can take this as a good rule of thumb. If you wet something it will not be completely normal after it. You have to wash it at least, if you do that often, the clothes will look old, I personally like diapers, wetting diapers can not be undone, at least not disposable ones, but there is nothing with it I would not say it is unhealthy for me or other people. (Of course you could argue about climate change or something, but that falls in the category of the above mentioned, I would say.) Quote Link to comment
kochel428 583 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 47 minutes ago, Tailsuser said: Well I do not think you can take this as a good rule of thumb. If you wet something it will not be completely normal after it. You have to wash it at least, if you do that often, the clothes will look old, I personally like diapers, wetting diapers can not be undone, at least not disposable ones, but there is nothing with it I would not say it is unhealthy for me or other people. (Of course you could argue about climate change or something, but that falls in the category of the above mentioned, I would say.) I wasn't talking about inanimate objects. I meant bodies and emotional wellbeing. And "go back to normal" doesn't mean "remains exactly the same." It just means, don't do anything that's psychically or physically damaging to yourself or others. Tailsuser 1 Quote Link to comment
Tailsuser 120 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 1 minute ago, kochel428 said: I wasn't talking about inanimate objects. I meant bodies and emotional wellbeing. And "go back to normal" doesn't mean "remains exactly the same." It just means, don't do anything that's psychically or physically damaging to yourself or others. Oh, ok. Yes, that seems reasonable. And how to you think about people not being able to cope with their fetish? On the one hand it hurts themselves, but on the other hand suppressing it won't be good either. So they depreciate themselves for doing what they do but they also do something good to themselves. Quote Link to comment
Spectator9 957 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Fantasizing about people you know isn't "wrong", but if you do it often it may affect the way you interact with them in the future. The boundary between fact and fiction may get blurred over time, and emotions can be influenced by both. Do it with great caution. Quote Link to comment
kochel428 583 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 2:29 PM, Tailsuser said: Oh, ok. Yes, that seems reasonable. And how to you think about people not being able to cope with their fetish? On the one hand it hurts themselves, but on the other hand suppressing it won't be good either. So they depreciate themselves for doing what they do but they also do something good to themselves. Those people should get therapy before engaging in fetish play with partners. Quote Link to comment
The Dark Wolf 1,746 Posted March 30, 2018 Author ✨ Legendary Member Share Posted March 30, 2018 22 hours ago, Spectator9 said: Fantasizing about people you know isn't "wrong", but if you do it often it may affect the way you interact with them in the future. The boundary between fact and fiction may get blurred over time, and emotions can be influenced by both. Do it with great caution. While I found the answer to my question a while back, for this reason I will still avoid fantasizing about people I know personally. Quote Link to comment
BENAir01 601 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I have lots of fantasies about people, friends, crushes, etc. Back in high school, I was in my school’s marching band and I always stood right behind this cute guy. He had a really nice butt and I would always imagin the back of his tight shorts expand as he pushed a load into them, and then watching a stream of pee dribble down his leg and a puddle expand. It was harmless and I never said anything about it or did anything about it, it was just a little daydream. I think it’s similar to judging people. It’s pretty hard to be antotally non judge mental person and don’t make any assumptions based on what people say or do or how they look, but it’s okay as long as you don’t say anything about it. I judge the actions of my friends all the time, I can’t help it, but I don’t tell them my judgments, so there’s nothing wrong with it. Quote Link to comment
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