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what are your thoughts on this? for me, I'm not really sure, but I'm leaning on the side of people being born with it and recognizing it when they're young.

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Are we supposed to post our guesses here? Or would you like some links to studies on the matter?

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I think it can go both ways honestly.. I think it is possible to be born gay, but i know there are certain "events" that can happen and completely change what youd rather be with...

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Are we supposed to post our guesses here? Or would you like some links to studies on the matter?

I think doing either is okay.

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The exact causes are still unknown but it is probably a combination of genetic, hormonal, and environmental factors. It is hard to say you are born gay but I think you can safely say it most likely is not a matter of choice. It is also thought that sexual orientation is established at childhood. For more info, read the ETIOLOGY AND PREVALENCE part on this link: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/113/6/1827.full?maxtoshow=&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=%2522Sexual+orientation+and+adolescents%2522&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT#sec-3

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As someone who has questioned himself on his sexual orientation, I feel that I have a right to post my views here without worry.

For a very large part of my life, I have been straight, I went through childhood and my lower teens without the slightest thought of other males (in a sexual light at least).

At some point however, I noticed that I found the idea less strange, and from that point Human curiosity took reign and allowed my mind to explore the idea, the ice-break was when I engaged in a malexmale sexual roleplay, nothing incredible of course, but it'd been something I'd never done before, and I found myself drawn to the idea of sexual contact with another male.

I will note for clarification, I am bisexual (borderline pansexual is more accurate though). I have preferences like everyone else, most porn I view is female (though this is due to my innate irritation at the throngs of men who flaunt themselves online, females are not as common in my opinion). I am also still adjusting, the change from straight to curious, to proper bisexual has occurred over the course of the last 4 years.

Most importantly, I am a person how has had zero sexual contact with any individual, which could possibly be one of the initial factors for the change (I found myself craving contact, and thus my mind opened to more options), coupled with my shy yet loud nature (I happily engage in conversation, but cannot bring myself to even talk about dating with others for fear of rejection), I often consider how desperate I truly am, and whether it's just my self-control that keeps me sane.

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I think you are born gay. I read somewhere that they found the gay gene for god's sake. Some combination of chemicals, and hormones in the brain along with the configuration of synapses in the wiring of the brain, and of course genetic predisposition all come together to create this. It's perfectly natural for this to occur.

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I shan't delve too deep into the realms of biology here, but it is nature rather than nurture.

Sexuality is decided by genes, and this manifests itself in several (sometimes unusual) ways. For example, more gay men are left-handed than straight men.

However, this is a theory, dubbed "exotic becomes erotic", that a man raised as a woman will become attracted to men. This theory is still in the think tank, but is probably true to a certain extent.

After puberty, gay men cannot stop "being gay." This is why the various treatments in the USA fail, and the choice for those seeking these treatments is acceptance or celibacy.

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I've heard it explained thusly:

If you believe in the accepted theory of evolution and natural selection then homosexuality is a genetic mal-mutation since it prevents the procration of the species and is therefore more of a genetic disorder. (Not that we should research a "cure" or anything like for a disease, just explaining the root cause as I've seen it.)

On the other hand I think for some people it is like any other fetish - just something we develop an intense lust for. Omo, anyone? http://animepee.me/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif

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Meh, I just randomly had the urge to post my own story here. As a pansexual,

For the larger part of my life as I know it, I was a lesbian. I never really had an attraction to men/boys. I just...loved femininity. I used to have "crushes" on boys because every other girl did, and being ostracized for being Asian in a mostly white school was bad enough as it was. I wouldn't learn about "homosexuality" until fifth grade, when I simultaneously learned about sex from my parents.

In sixth grade, I met one of my best friends. I was attracted to her, very much so. More for her personality than anything. Of course, being in the sixth grade, I was much too scared to say anything. I went through that year having "crushes" just like I did before. I remember playing a game called "ZAP" where someone's name would be written on your palm and if you looked at it before the day was out then you had to ask them out. I had to ask out a few people because I fail at that game. Of course I tagged "please say no" to the end of my request. (Which wasn't against the rules at all http://animepee.me/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

In seventh grade, I started to come to terms with myself. Looking at myself, my actions, my decisions, etc. I told myself, I wasn't gay...and if I was, I'd change. Though after a while...I realized I couldn't. No matter what, girls and femininity ruled over my sexuality, and no amount of teasing, harassing, or determination was going to change that. That year I discovered a character, Bridget from Guilty Gear. I was attracted to him, because of how feminine he was. This confused me a bit. I'd never been attracted to things that had penises, usually it turned me off. So it became clear to me, I was bisexual. I also met the girl I would have my first experience with a girl that year.

The next year, I had my first real relationship. It was with a boy. Sad to say, it was an abusive relationship. I didn't really date anyone after that. Though about a half a year after that relationship ended, my friend slept over. She ended up confessing to me, and we entered a short-lived, but nonetheless meaningful relationship.

The year after, I met a kid that I was legitimately attracted to. He was extremely feminine. (Probably more feminine than me.) We were together for five months, and then it fell apart when he confessed to having cheated on me. After that, I was talking to my friend from sixth grade, she, now a he, confided her bisexuality and genderqueerity in me. We would then enter a very short-lived relationship. About a month after that, I got together with my ex-boyfriend's ex-girlfriend. We were together for around two months. Currently I'm in a relationship with a guy, and I'm very happy. Though I retain the attraction to girls and femininity in general.

I will always stand by that I never chose to like girls, if anything, I chose to like boys.

--Silvery

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Forgive my theology if elaborate guesses aren't your thing.

Knowing that all of us here are pathologically into girls wetting themselves I say being gay is something similar, only more predominant because gender norms run our lives, and our bladders just run us to the bathroom.

Freud has three separate faculties of consciousness in his model. ID, Super Ego, and Ego. ID being the bases of everything we know, what's up, down, boy, girl, gay, and strait. ID doesn't change very much past a certain age either, setting these things in stone. The super ego mediates between the active ego, and can form connections. Your ID looks for sexual cues, your super ego can connect things to the sexual cues, and your ego will act on it.

If our sexual cues are different the super ego can expand on it in totally different directions. In our ID's development it clicks together everything it can. Associating breast with females, penis with males but never strictly in this manor. Even putting together the same sexual connections to both genders. All the shemale porn on the internet was believed by Google researchers to trigger cues for both genders, instead of being a sexually deviant distortion like common sense would tell us. This information on sexual cues, in combination with Sigmund Freud's psychoactive models can tell us a lot on why we like the things we do.

If you're interested

Don't let the misinterpretations, and unreliable data sources shake you too much from the main point.

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Choice?

Well, I think it is choice, but you have to understand how early choices are made and what is innate in every human being. We all of us, all of us, have a capacity to love anyone when we are small. We are conditioned a bit by those around us in many ways that cannot be measured. Straight and Gay are in all of us at birth because at birth we do not see the world of a sexual nature yet, only thing is, we know who we feel safe around.

Can some of our genes determine who we are more likely to feel safe with or who we will feel attracted to? I don't know. I heard there was research related to that, and I also heard that there were many answers for that. I don't really believe it has been determined.

Is it wrong to be Gay (immoral):

This is where we get into a touchy subject that I am going to leave well enough alone. Thank you for reading my opinion.

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I'm no expert, but I think that people are born without any determined sexual orientation. At some point, they just get their first crush, and that's when their sexuality is first determined. It can change later on. It's just about what happens in your life, and who you meet. And of course, the specific details of how you define gay.

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Firstly, Silvery and Ronyo thank you for sharing your stories.

Secondly, I am not gay or bisexual.

My thoughts on this come from my days working in the theater in high school. I knew a kid lets call him Stephen. For three years we all thought he was gay, or maybe strait, or maybe gay?????? We had no idea. Personally I didn't care. He was an awesome friend to me. Then came senior year.

One day, Stephen admitted that he had a crush on me. "Holy shit balls, what?" I kept thinking. Very nicely I told him no thank you. Besides I currently had a girl at the time. However he had come out and that allowed him to share things with me that he would never had share with others.

He told me how he had never told his family he was gay and how he was in a relationship with an older man. As well as a few other things. But it was really sad because he still felt like he was wrong for some reason. That he had to hide who he was.

Stephen is my example as to why I believe people are born gay. How could an awesome person hide who they are like that? If being gay was a choice who would choose a life like that?

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Just adding it doesn't have to be decided at birth for it to be outside your control. I mean when you're born you're not even aware you exist, and it takes till the age of 3 and you might recognize yourself in a mirror.

http://www.psychology.emory.edu/cognition/rochat/lab/5%20levels%20of%20self-awareness.pdf

Also I don't need a reason to be with who I love in spite of what other people think.

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Actually, I remember hearing someone on youtube who was talking about this. Something he said really struck a chord with me.

"I told myself that it was just a phase, and if it wasn't a phase that...I'd change. Because, growing up, I'd always believed that being gay was a choice. You hear so many people saying it's a choice, on TV, on the radio, on the internet. You hear so many people saying it's a choice, that you believe them. Why wouldn't you? It's only those who go through it, that really know the answer."

The video can be found here

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Personally, I believe that people are born gay, straight, bi, pansexual, whatever. However, there is always the choice of whether to follow that particular lifestyle: do you want to be openly gay and fully honest about who you are, or do you want to act straight, lead a straight life, and not risk possibly getting rejected by society?

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I don't think you're born gay, nor straight. I believe it all depends on the environment your brought up in, for example different types of families have different types of living standards, Friends is also a big influence on who you are going to be and want to be. Normally homosexuals hang around the opposite sex and normally becomes influenced on being attracted to their own kind.

It's not a bad thing, its just their own way of thinking.

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If people are born gay, then they're born with their personality as well. I think its something that develops within you during your younger years.

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If people are born gay, then they're born with their personality as well. I think its something that develops within you during your younger years.

I agree wholeheartedly. I thought about posting a response on here earlier, but you summed up my views nicely.

I refuse to believe that the day we are born, our personalities or who are are is pre-determined.

For the same reasons I don't believe in fate really.

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Personally, I believe that people are born gay, straight, bi, pansexual, whatever. However, there is always the choice of whether to follow that particular lifestyle: do you want to be openly gay and fully honest about who you are, or do you want to act straight, lead a straight life, and not risk possibly getting rejected by society?

I agree with this fully. And thank you all for your stories and replies.

The quote above me sums up my feelings about the topic. I feel like our society is trying to train us that homosexuality is wrong and gross and immoral and all of that...so it makes it harder for gay people to find themselves.

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I want to point out that I don't fear what society is trying to do at the moment, it's sad, horrible, and just pathetic on many accounts. But let us not forget what The Creed teaches us:

Nothing is true; everything is permitted.

Just as it has been in the past, being homosexual will eventually be viewed as another part of normal society. Regardless of how long it'll take, it'll get there.

Then it'll become taboo again.

Humans: We're funny like that.

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