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The current issues with the reputation system, and how you can help. (PLEASE READ)

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Hi everybody! Its me, your lovely moderator/merciless hand of judgement, KozmoFox!

I've been having some issues recently during my moderating duties. There always seems to be an influx of new people to this site, and as times change and people come and go, some understandings are lost. The issues I've been having, are people misusing the reputation system, abusing it by using it to attack other members, or to upvote everything a favorite does. I know it might seem like it, but this is not meant to be used in a pseudo-Reddit sort of way. Let me explain it by pasting the same thing I explained to another member just a moment ago.

To be more clear as to the reason why, the reputation system is actually tied directly to site access. Its how we gauge how people are valued on the site, for better or for worse. You post good things, you're contributory, etc, you'll end up with high reputation. On the negative side of things, if you shitpost, post unsavory things, and just go about being some unlikeable jerk for example, you end up in the negative. Upvote the good, downvote the bad, essentially.

And again, this is tied directly into site access. For example, in order to achieve contributory member status (which is still partially at staff discretion; that change is manual rather than automated like other things) you need to meet a criteria of 500 posts made, and a minimum of 200 positive reputation, signalling that you're an active member and contributor to the site that is liked by the community. This gives some of the highest access you can have, especially in regards to downloads and bandwidth, among other things, even higher than a paid membership will get you, because we value an active, contributing community full of great users over what money they can pay us.

This system is not foolproof however; when people abuse this system in ways its not intended to be used, this balance is thrown out of whack. People who aren't deserving of higher contributory membership might get it. People who ARE deserving might not, due to some person they dislike just redbombing them. Things like this make it difficult to ensure a level playing field.

There was a time that only contributory members could downvote for example; they had proven themselves good members worthy of handling such a responsibility, unlike new users who could be creepy or hateful people that just want to redbomb people everywhere, and even then there used to be a limit on how many upvotes people under a certain rank could administer per day, ensuring that for the majority of people, only exemplary posts and content would get the big old greenies.

Recent times threw that into anarchy though. Our beloved Kirito tried to broaden it a little by extending max voting privileges to established members, in addition to contributory and vip members. Something bugged out, and now its all out anarchy with everybody simply having all this potential. Its been like that for awhile and something we're still working on fixing. I felt the need to explain all this because I've been dealing with incidents like this all week, and I feel like its a thing that needs clearing up. I hope you all take this to heart and understand what I've explained here 🙂  ❤️

In the meantime, I'll hassle the big cheese to see where this goes definitively, and I'll try to see if I can get something like this onto the guidelines page, but in fewer words.

Thank you for reading, and hopefully cooperating  with me! It would save me an immense amount of time that I can use to tackle other site issues, instead of policing how people use a green button ❤️



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I'm confident that @Kirito will have this sorted out soon. It's kind of scary that plebs now are able to use the weapons that were originally available to only the upper-class users. In the meantime... until it's fixed, if a pleb wants to come at me, then IT'S ON!

Thanks for explaining this to us. It helps a lot.

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I'm still learning the system and I've been here a few years, but thank you for explaining it in Sesame Street english for me, you're the real MVP 👍👍👍

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tl;dr: downvote shit upvote good shit if you want to make the life of mods easier.

Business as usual for most on site.

Edited by DerivativeWings

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It could be a problem, but for the most part, everyone who has ever been read has broken a rule, supported inflicting a wetting scenario on an unwilling party, or openly supported pedophilia. I rarely see anything outside of those three things getting a large number of downvotes, aside from occasional bigotry or failure to communicate in any reasonable semblance of the word.

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22 hours ago, LOLC2k said:

It could be a problem, but for the most part, everyone who has ever been read has broken a rule, supported inflicting a wetting scenario on an unwilling party, or openly supported pedophilia. I rarely see anything outside of those three things getting a large number of downvotes, aside from occasional bigotry or failure to communicate in any reasonable semblance of the word.

Indeed. In general, the only posts I see getting multiple(!) downvotes are people being dicks.

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I've always disliked upvote/downvote systems for reasons like this, but it's futile not liking one of the most useful systems on any kind of forum that needs any form of order. 


I thought the system where there was a set number of votes one could attain. I could see retooling the system to work. Maybe keep the ups and downs, for more of a "this person said something insightful, funny, or meaningful, and the flipside" and for obviously distasteful posts a user flagging system with categories? 

This place is my summer home, ill come back throughout the year for a few weeks. I like it, but its been a little chaotic. 

Ya'll do some fine work though. 

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Yes, this was actually really helpful in understanding membership ratings and whatnot. I think I’ve been around for a while now, but never made a whole lot of contributions. Guess I’ll need to start doing a bit more of that. Thanks!

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I’m glad I took the time to read this. I appreciate the staff taking the time to address this issue and letting the community know what’s going on 

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It's an interesting system with difficult implications when abused. Thank you for being forthcoming with this information about what has been going on.  I'm equally hoping to see it get fixed/simplified easily and quickly so other, more pressing site matters can maintain higher focus.

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